First They Came for the Anti-Vaxxers

[Reece]

Car manufacturers don't have a law on their side that prevents them from being sued, nor do they have a taxpayer funded fund to pay out in the event of harm.

Neither do farmers.

Is science about questioning and hypothesis or not?

This is why the term "settled science" is bologna!

Yes, vaccine manufacturers are subsidized in the case of unexpected harm. That hasn't happened yet, so they haven't gotten these advantages. What has happened so far is that anti-vaccination claims have gained credence due to payouts in a "vaccine court" for things almost certainly unrelated to vaccines. My car manufacturer example was pointing out that the typical, already known risks should not have to be paid from the vaccine manufacturers unless if there is a contract for it.

Settled science isn't bologna. Do you think the science for the Earth not being flat isn't settled? Might DNA not be a double helix? We don't have to rehash these claims over and over, because they are settled.

 

[Reece]

Edit: double post

 

[Reece]

Seriously?? I have no idea what definition of "libertarian" you are using then.

If I release a medicine, and specifically say that there is a one in a million chance someone could have a severe reaction, would I have to pay when someone was injured? Can I not release a medicine in your "libertarian" society and give the risks without being liable for damages when these risks occur?

 

[TheCount]

If I release a medicine, and specifically say that there is a one in a million chance someone could have a severe reaction, would I have to pay when someone was injured? Can I not release a medicine in your "libertarian" society and give the risks without being liable for damages when these risks occur?

You would do what the 'alternative medicine' industry does and reduce a placebo that has no positive benefits and also no negative side effects.

 

[mosquitobite]

Settled science isn't bologna. Do you think the science for the Earth not being flat isn't settled? Might DNA not be a double helix? We don't have to rehash these claims over and over, because they are settled.

I suppose you're a man-made global warming fan while we're discussing this "settled science" business then, right? Because there are thousands of scientists whose funding depends on it being "settled science".

 

[donnay]

Big Pharma Blackmailed Congress in 1982

To understand how this happened, we have to turn the clock back to 1982. That is when four big drug companies (Merck, Wyeth, Lederle, Connaught) blackmailed Congress by threatening to stop selling vaccines in America unless a law was passed giving them complete immunity from prosecution. 21

The pharmaceutical industry knew they were in big trouble because the old, crude whooping cough vaccine in the DPT shot was causing brain inflammation and death in many children; 22 the live oral polio vaccine was crippling children and adults with vaccine strain polio; 23 and Americans were filing lawsuits to hold drug companies responsible for the safety of their products.

Source

 

[Deborah K]

Yes, vaccine manufacturers are subsidized in the case of unexpected harm. That hasn't happened yet, so they haven't gotten these advantages. What has happened so far is that anti-vaccination claims have gained credence due to payouts in a "vaccine court" for things almost certainly unrelated to vaccines. My car manufacturer example was pointing out that the typical, already known risks should not have to be paid from the vaccine manufacturers unless if there is a contract for it.

Settled science isn't bologna. Do you think the science for the Earth not being flat isn't settled? Might DNA not be a double helix? We don't have to rehash these claims over and over, because they are settled.

In the area of whether vaccinations are safe and effective, the science is not settled.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

You would do what the 'alternative medicine' industry does and reduce a placebo that has no positive benefits and also no negative side effects.

Plants, herbs, foods, etc. have healing properties in their natural states. Those would be positive benefits.

Much of the pharmaceutical industry is taking these same substances and altering them. Their base is a plant. They change it and get a patent.