First-ever private border wall built in New Mexico

asurfaholic said:
You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

They are not raised to expect the government to share wealth with them. They want to work for what they have and are frugal and rarely materialistic. Compare that to your typical American. Go walk around Walmart and tell me that Mexicans are the lazy bums. I’m beginning to realize you are actually just racist and incapable of human empathy. You aren’t against the socialist policies, you just hate the idea that a Little brown guy might get his hand in the cookie jar. Build a wall and we are still left with the same problems. I’ll bet there will be no significant reduction in the welfare drain on this country.
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EXACTLY!
 
specsaregood said:
Except this wall, which is built on private property on land donated by the owner that has suffered due to trespassers for years. Built with voluntary contributions. I like it.

You are spot on about the welfare though. If people had no choice but to work those dirty jobs they don't want to do or starve, they would do those jobs and illegals would have no jobs over here to take.
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A wall like this, not the government one SS advocates is perfectly fine, hell I'd help build it...

What I don't want to do is pay bureaucrats and politicians, statisticians and union members to think about maybe building a wall on my dime....

Government can't even print money without fucking it up.........
 
nikcers said:
How does that fix their broken governmental system that gives them an incentive to come here? That's what they tell me when I talk to them, they come here because their government is corrupt. The police shot up a school down there and they covered it up.
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Like the US cops that hid when the Florida school was shot up by a "lone" shooter? Mexico's not perfect but it's not a threat to the US- more vs/vs.
 
Ender said:
Like the US cops that hid when the Florida school was shot up by a "lone" shooter? Mexico's not perfect but it's not a threat to the US- more vs/vs.
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There is a difference between a cop ticketing you to rob you and straight up demanding money or be arrested. The people I have talked to say they come here because their government is corrupt.
 
nikcers said:
There is a difference between a cop ticketing you to rob you and straight up demanding money or be arrested. The people I have talked to say they come here because their government is corrupt.
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San Miguel de Allende, Mexico (CNN)While politicians in Washington debate building a wall between the United States and Mexico, Americans who've moved south of the border have a different perspective on the country they've come to call home.

Walk the streets of San Miguel de Allende, a colonial town in central Mexico that's long been a mecca for American retirees, and you'll meet new arrivals who say they're grateful they've found a place to escape from mounting political tensions in the United States.

Some even have a catch phrase for the things they say brought them here. They call them "the three C's": climate, culture and cost of living.

According to the State Department, roughly 1 million US citizens live in Mexico.
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More: https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/24/americas/mexico-american-expats/index.html
 
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nikcers said:
I grew up in bad neighborhoods in Nevada where all of my friends and neigbhors were Mexican immigrants, I could speak spanish pretty well before I lost touch with a friend about 10 years ago. I don't need to read any other opinions on this, I've spent thousands of hours talking to mexican immigrants.
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I grew up in S Cal with lottsa Mexicans & spent tons of time across the border.
 
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I grew up in S Cal with lottsa Mexicans & spent tons of time across the border.
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Maybe you seen this than, I've met tons of people who are even second generation that live here who spite living here because they love their home country so much but the situation is so bad they feel they have no choice like they are in a prison they are treated like they are unwanted no matter where they go even if they go back to their own country the people treat them like they are not "one of us".
 
Swordsmyth said:
a DHS insider exposed to us Congo migrants have made it to the USA with confirmed cases of #ebola. 3 are in custody in Laredo Tx and 6 in Laredo Mexico, and in Juarez next to our wall@WeBuildtheWall is securing our nation! @RyanAFournier @gehrig38 @cnnbrk @CBSNews @NBCNews
— Brian Kolfage (@BrianKolfage) May 31, 2019

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[FONT=&quot]Per the latest WHO weekly outbreak bulletin, the 10 month Ebola outbreak continues unabated in DRC. It's up by almost exactly 30% in the last 21 days.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Good[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They've vaccinated nearly 125K people, with an experimental vaccine that appears to confer >99% effectiveness against Ebola. (For the 1K or less people who contracted it anyways, don't worry, most of them are dead now.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Bad[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1) Despite vaccinations, progressing at some 1000 per day, for a non-zero number of cases (currently it's something like 5% of all new cases), they have no effing clue where a given case originated, and thus no wild idea whom to vaccinate, or how to throw up a suitable containment ring around them, or how the virus got past them.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2) They are tracing contacts in 17 health zones. The problem with that is there are 22 health zones (think of counties) with active Ebola cases in the last couple of weeks. Imagine being missed by 17 out of 22 cars as you cross in a crosswalk, and you begin to appreciate why this is a problem.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In the five other zones (23%) where there is zero contact tracing, they have no idea what the disease is doing.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Ugly[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In this current outbreak, in 50% of cases, fever as a presenting sign is completely absent.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot](Fever, we remind you, is how grade-school dropout customs screeners in 126 countries check people at the airports for Ebola before letting them in. Including our TSA wizards here in the U.S. It's really the only thing they can check that can be mastered by 80 IQ government employees worldwide. Sleep tight.)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Short of laboratory testing everyone (which they aren't and cannot do in nearly 1/4 of the Hot Zone in DRC), and a 40-day quarantine, cases will continue to multiply.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And they are.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Let's look at that over time, since we're at the 10-month anniversary of this outbreak today:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Index case Aug 1[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 cases Aug 1[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4 Aug 1[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8 Aug 1[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 Aug 1[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]32 Aug 3[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]64 Aug 3[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]128 Aug 31[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]256 Oct 15[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]512 Dec 3[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1K Feb 24 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2K May 12[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4K probably about Aug 1[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]That would be an 11 on the 34-point Scale Of Whether It's Time To Panic, with 34 being Global Extinction Event. And headed to 12 at about 100 new cases/wk, give or take.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And we repeat, as the virus doesn't kill overnight, the correct death ratio number, we pound home, is not the WHO/Wikistupidia math-retarded posted lie of 65% of dead vs. infected, it's those dead now vs. number infected 21 days ago, which gives a consistent and far more reliable lethality percentage around 75%. Because it takes about that long to get it, and then die from it, on a rough average.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]USAMRIID and CDC refer to that level of lethality as a "slate-wiper"; it erases populations.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And bear well in mind "surviving" Ebola means you now have it functionally forever, and get to suffer the sequellae of Post-Ebola virus syndrome. {TL;DR: You're still screwed, and life, as you knew it, is over. You aren't going back to your old life ever again. Short answer: don't catch it to begin with.}[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Note that by the time it was confirmed as an outbreak this time, it had already doubled 4 times, meaning it probably started two to four weeks earlier, at minimum, but no one noticed until literally 20 people dropped dead with blood shooting out of all orifices. Nominally, on Day One. Proof of this is that it doubled two more times in the next 48 hours.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Growth slowed notably, mainly because the vaccine and ring vaccination slowed the brushfire down. At first.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And then the local superstition and ignorance kicked in, they started stealing bodies from morgues, burning Ebola treatment centers, and chasing the health teams out at gunpoint, and all hell has broken loose, probably never to be contained, because we don't have the 82nd Airborne in hazmat suits available to shoot idiots at gunpoint to get this back in the bottle.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You know this because it keeps escaping to neighboring health zones and provinces, having now moved some 100 miles outward.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It has surged notably since March of this year, both in terms of numbers, and affected areas. That is an ominous sign.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Bear in mind once again that this area is[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]a) equatorial jungle, literally right on the Equator[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]b) listed in all maps relevant as "ungoverned"[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]c) listed in all relevant maps as "armed conflict zone"[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The UN and all local organizations are doing their usual Headless Chicken, thrashing about, but to little effect, and the literature continues to try and paint a happy picture, while ill-concealing their ultimate despair that they'll get ahead of this one.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It continues to be a slow roll-out compared to 2014, but is notably picking up steam.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1000 vaccinations a day is great when you have 100 cases.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]When you're working on 2200 cases and counting, and nearly 1/4 of the regions you need to be in are untouched by any effort, the horse left the barn, and you're just marking time on three sides while the whole show departs through the gaping holes in containment.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It's going to get much worse, much faster, probably in a week to a month, when cases start popping up farther afield, where there are no resources or testing, let alone contact tracing, and the percentage of cases with no clear infection chain will go from single digit percentages to mid-double digits rapidly.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And now comes unconfirmed word that we have a number of potential infected refugees in custody on the Southern border of the US. Nobody's saying they have Ebola, just getting all flustercated because they might. {Emphasis added for clarity. -A.}[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]My default answer is to ignore these reports until it's confirmed, because most of them are indeed false reports, so we'll wait and see how it pans out, as you all should.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]But if it breaks out here, we have 11 BL-IV beds, max, to adequately contain that outbreak.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]For reference, Mexico has zero beds.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I repeat, Mexico has zero beds.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If it breaks out south of the border, one case becomes 100 cases in about a month, tops, (probably more like a week to ten days) and then the flood of refugees coming here becomes a tsunami (actually, we're there now completely without a pandemic to drive it faster, so picture that when it gets turned up to 11). At that point, f**k a wall. The only way you stop that flow is AC-130s doing minigun sweeps of anything moving within 1/4 mile of the international border, which is going to be hard on the millions of people who already live inside that zone on both sides of the line.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]So if Mexico gets one active case, you can cancel Christmas.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]America (North, and particularly Central and South) becomes Africa at that point.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Ditto if we get more than 10 cases here in the U.S.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We saw what happens when people at the local big hospital tried to be Emory or Nebraska or The Vault at USAMRIID: it fails, and you knock a 1000-bed major tertiary care facility out for months, for the whole community.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And the virus doubles, despite your best efforts.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]With EVD, close isn't good enough, and only counts with horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I'm working, and have been, in level I and II trauma centers, and major high-volume ERs my entire career. More since 2014 than before, BTW.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And I'm here to tell you, by the numbers:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1) We aren't ready to deal with this, in any meaningful way, any better than in 2014[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2) By "we" I mean any hospital in any city anywhere in North America, and[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3) when, not if, this breaks out here, it's going to take out health care as you know it in every affected city, starting with the people who work in them, then patients and visitors. Hospitals will become abbatoirs, morgues, then ghost towns.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4) 911 responders (firefighter rigs and EMT units, and to a lesser extent, law enforcement) will become potential carriers to spread the disease back into the community.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5) anybody, anywhere, with whatever certifications, who tells you anything different is either lying out their ass at both ends, or doesn't know what they're talking about, and anything further they say can be completely discounted as utter bullsh*t from someone too stupid to live, or irredeemably evil.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Good times, huh?[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]That means no ER, no 9-1-1, no 50 other things people come to hospitals or call the police and fire department to handle. T[FONT=&quot]rauma, heart attacks, strokes, diabetic emergencies, appendicitis, and the whole plethora of modern medicine.[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Imagine the police not wanting to get within 20 feet of people on a stop or a call.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Car accidents will become morgue calls.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Because Ebola.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Monster[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The little filovirus in the masthead for these updates is magnified tens of thousand times, in pics that have been around since the mid-1970s.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A period at the end of this sentence would be a ball of virus that numbers 100,000,000 of them.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The number necessary to give you full-blown Ebola is one.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We don't know in what species Ebola resides between outbreaks. Anywhere. Ever.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We don't know how it gets transmitted from them to humans.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]No idea whatsoever.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Flecks of infected blood from a human victim who has it can be coughed and sneezed 25', and may linger in the air for up to 10 minutes afterwards.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And that's only considered droplet precautions, because those particles are heavier than air, and eventually settle, unlike true airborne precautions, for something like TB, or pneumonic plague.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Your body won't care which it is if you suck in one of those droplets at the movie theater, theme park, supermarket, or mall, whenever you simply breathe it in anytime you walk within 25' of anywhere anyone has coughed in the last 10 minutes.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Have fun at WalMart, Target, the airport, a theme park, a movie multiplex, a ballpark or auditorium, and the supermarket then.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]And before someone starts asking (again?!) about how to "deal" with this, by suiting up:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1) You need a 20-piece hazmat ensemble, a spotter to put it on and take it off, a metric fuckton of disinfectant and disposable items, including gloves, splash-proof goggles, gloves, suits, gloves, hoods, gloves, booties, gloves, droplet barrier masks, and gloves.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2) One break in protocol will be a terminal error.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3) And potentially expose everyone you come into contact with to the virus.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4) And require you to start all over again getting suited up for, or deconned out of, any hot zone[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]5) Oh, and lest we forget, it's June, and the ensemble inside is hot-as-fucking-hell, and gives the average person maybe two hours' time before they're ready to pass out from heat stroke, before we factor in dehydration, claustrophobia, and sheer panic.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]6) Did we mention that hot, tired, dehydrated, exhausted, and panicky people make fucktons of sloppy mistakes?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]7) Did we also mention that one mistake can get you and everyone you love or contact killed?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]So yeah, fuck the idea of working in hazmat gear. Professionals hate it. With all the resources mentioned above you'll never have.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You don't stand a chance.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Proper protective equipment for Ebola, we repeat and belabor, is several lengths of military-grade concertina, warning signs, a shotgun and supply of buckshot, and small breakable containers with a suitable flame accelerant, for emergency decontamination beyond the perimeter.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Chance of Ebola sneaking up your driveway and into you behind such a perimeter: 0%.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Odds of seeing this material again before the end of the year: better than even.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Happy Summer, kids![/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Now do you see why I don't want to bring this up any more frequently?[/FONT]

UPDATE: 116 Africans, including congolese refugees, caught crossing Rio Grande
What could possibly go wrong?

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/june-ebola-update.html
 
A 7-year-old boy is being praised by many for raising $22,000 through a hot chocolate stand for the privately funded border wall, and he has set an even higher goal for his fundraising efforts.

Benton Stevens says that he will sell lemonade for the summer, and he hopes to raise $50,000 for the private border wall construction.
He was in attendance at the ribbon-cutting ceremony for the first part of the private border wall.
The official Facebook site of the private border wall organizers praised Stevens in a post on Friday.
"We were honored to have him at our ribbon cutting ceremony yesterday for the wall he helped pay for along with all of you who donated," the post read.
"This is only the beginning and we're excited to keep building more to protect our nation and the legal citizens who proudly call American their home!" they concluded.

More at: https://www.theblaze.com/news/7-year-old-raises-20k-for-border-wall
 
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Originally Posted by Swordsmyth

a DHS insider exposed to us Congo migrants have made it to the USA with confirmed cases of #ebola. 3 are in custody in Laredo Tx and 6 in Laredo Mexico, and in Juarez next to our wall@WeBuildtheWall is securing our nation! @RyanAFournier @gehrig38 @cnnbrk @CBSNews @NBCNews
— Brian Kolfage (@BrianKolfage) May 31, 2019
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Swordsmyth said:
Per the latest WHO weekly outbreak bulletin, the 10 month Ebola outbreak continues unabated in DRC. It's up by almost exactly 30% in the last 21 days.

The Good
They've vaccinated nearly 125K people, with an experimental vaccine that appears to confer >99% effectiveness against Ebola. (For the 1K or less people who contracted it anyways, don't worry, most of them are dead now.)

The Bad

1) Despite vaccinations, progressing at some 1000 per day, for a non-zero number of cases (currently it's something like 5% of all new cases), they have no effing clue where a given case originated, and thus no wild idea whom to vaccinate, or how to throw up a suitable containment ring around them, or how the virus got past them.

2) They are tracing contacts in 17 health zones. The problem with that is there are 22 health zones (think of counties) with active Ebola cases in the last couple of weeks. Imagine being missed by 17 out of 22 cars as you cross in a crosswalk, and you begin to appreciate why this is a problem.

In the five other zones (23%) where there is zero contact tracing, they have no idea what the disease is doing.

The Ugly

In this current outbreak, in 50% of cases, fever as a presenting sign is completely absent.
(Fever, we remind you, is how grade-school dropout customs screeners in 126 countries check people at the airports for Ebola before letting them in. Including our TSA wizards here in the U.S. It's really the only thing they can check that can be mastered by 80 IQ government employees worldwide. Sleep tight.)
Short of laboratory testing everyone (which they aren't and cannot do in nearly 1/4 of the Hot Zone in DRC), and a 40-day quarantine, cases will continue to multiply.
And they are.

Let's look at that over time, since we're at the 10-month anniversary of this outbreak today:

Index case Aug 1
2 cases Aug 1
4 Aug 1
8 Aug 1
16 Aug 1
32 Aug 3
64 Aug 3
128 Aug 31
256 Oct 15
512 Dec 3
1K Feb 24
2K May 12
4K probably about Aug 1

That would be an 11 on the 34-point Scale Of Whether It's Time To Panic, with 34 being Global Extinction Event. And headed to 12 at about 100 new cases/wk, give or take.

And we repeat, as the virus doesn't kill overnight, the correct death ratio number, we pound home, is not the WHO/Wikistupidia math-retarded posted lie of 65% of dead vs. infected, it's those dead now vs. number infected 21 days ago, which gives a consistent and far more reliable lethality percentage around 75%. Because it takes about that long to get it, and then die from it, on a rough average.

USAMRIID and CDC refer to that level of lethality as a "slate-wiper"; it erases populations.

And bear well in mind "surviving" Ebola means you now have it functionally forever, and get to suffer the sequellae of Post-Ebola virus syndrome. {TL;DR: You're still screwed, and life, as you knew it, is over. You aren't going back to your old life ever again. Short answer: don't catch it to begin with.}

Note that by the time it was confirmed as an outbreak this time, it had already doubled 4 times, meaning it probably started two to four weeks earlier, at minimum, but no one noticed until literally 20 people dropped dead with blood shooting out of all orifices. Nominally, on Day One. Proof of this is that it doubled two more times in the next 48 hours.
Growth slowed notably, mainly because the vaccine and ring vaccination slowed the brushfire down. At first.

And then the local superstition and ignorance kicked in, they started stealing bodies from morgues, burning Ebola treatment centers, and chasing the health teams out at gunpoint, and all hell has broken loose, probably never to be contained, because we don't have the 82nd Airborne in hazmat suits available to shoot idiots at gunpoint to get this back in the bottle.

You know this because it keeps escaping to neighboring health zones and provinces, having now moved some 100 miles outward.
It has surged notably since March of this year, both in terms of numbers, and affected areas. That is an ominous sign.

Bear in mind once again that this area is
a) equatorial jungle, literally right on the Equator
b) listed in all maps relevant as "ungoverned"
c) listed in all relevant maps as "armed conflict zone"

The UN and all local organizations are doing their usual Headless Chicken, thrashing about, but to little effect, and the literature continues to try and paint a happy picture, while ill-concealing their ultimate despair that they'll get ahead of this one.

It continues to be a slow roll-out compared to 2014, but is notably picking up steam.
1000 vaccinations a day is great when you have 100 cases.
When you're working on 2200 cases and counting, and nearly 1/4 of the regions you need to be in are untouched by any effort, the horse left the barn, and you're just marking time on three sides while the whole show departs through the gaping holes in containment.

It's going to get much worse, much faster, probably in a week to a month, when cases start popping up farther afield, where there are no resources or testing, let alone contact tracing, and the percentage of cases with no clear infection chain will go from single digit percentages to mid-double digits rapidly.

And now comes unconfirmed word that we have a number of potential infected refugees in custody on the Southern border of the US. Nobody's saying they have Ebola, just getting all flustercated because they might. {Emphasis added for clarity. -A.}

My default answer is to ignore these reports until it's confirmed, because most of them are indeed false reports, so we'll wait and see how it pans out, as you all should.

But if it breaks out here, we have 11 BL-IV beds, max, to adequately contain that outbreak.
For reference, Mexico has zero beds.
I repeat, Mexico has zero beds.

If it breaks out south of the border, one case becomes 100 cases in about a month, tops, (probably more like a week to ten days) and then the flood of refugees coming here becomes a tsunami (actually, we're there now completely without a pandemic to drive it faster, so picture that when it gets turned up to 11). At that point, f**k a wall. The only way you stop that flow is AC-130s doing minigun sweeps of anything moving within 1/4 mile of the international border, which is going to be hard on the millions of people who already live inside that zone on both sides of the line.

So if Mexico gets one active case, you can cancel Christmas.
America (North, and particularly Central and South) becomes Africa at that point.
Ditto if we get more than 10 cases here in the U.S.

We saw what happens when people at the local big hospital tried to be Emory or Nebraska or The Vault at USAMRIID: it fails, and you knock a 1000-bed major tertiary care facility out for months, for the whole community.
And the virus doubles, despite your best efforts.

With EVD, close isn't good enough, and only counts with horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons.

I'm working, and have been, in level I and II trauma centers, and major high-volume ERs my entire career. More since 2014 than before, BTW.

And I'm here to tell you, by the numbers:

1) We aren't ready to deal with this, in any meaningful way, any better than in 2014
2) By "we" I mean any hospital in any city anywhere in North America, and
3) when, not if, this breaks out here, it's going to take out health care as you know it in every affected city, starting with the people who work in them, then patients and visitors. Hospitals will become abbatoirs, morgues, then ghost towns.
4) 911 responders (firefighter rigs and EMT units, and to a lesser extent, law enforcement) will become potential carriers to spread the disease back into the community.
5) anybody, anywhere, with whatever certifications, who tells you anything different is either lying out their ass at both ends, or doesn't know what they're talking about, and anything further they say can be completely discounted as utter bullsh*t from someone too stupid to live, or irredeemably evil.

Good times, huh?

That means no ER, no 9-1-1, no 50 other things people come to hospitals or call the police and fire department to handle. Trauma, heart attacks, strokes, diabetic emergencies, appendicitis, and the whole plethora of modern medicine.
Imagine the police not wanting to get within 20 feet of people on a stop or a call.
Car accidents will become morgue calls.

Because Ebola.

The Monster

The little filovirus in the masthead for these updates is magnified tens of thousand times, in pics that have been around since the mid-1970s.
A period at the end of this sentence would be a ball of virus that numbers 100,000,000 of them.
The number necessary to give you full-blown Ebola is one.

We don't know in what species Ebola resides between outbreaks. Anywhere. Ever.
We don't know how it gets transmitted from them to humans.
No idea whatsoever.

Flecks of infected blood from a human victim who has it can be coughed and sneezed 25', and may linger in the air for up to 10 minutes afterwards.
And that's only considered droplet precautions, because those particles are heavier than air, and eventually settle, unlike true airborne precautions, for something like TB, or pneumonic plague.

Your body won't care which it is if you suck in one of those droplets at the movie theater, theme park, supermarket, or mall, whenever you simply breathe it in anytime you walk within 25' of anywhere anyone has coughed in the last 10 minutes.

Have fun at WalMart, Target, the airport, a theme park, a movie multiplex, a ballpark or auditorium, and the supermarket then.

And before someone starts asking (again?!) about how to "deal" with this, by suiting up:
1) You need a 20-piece hazmat ensemble, a spotter to put it on and take it off, a metric $#@!ton of disinfectant and disposable items, including gloves, splash-proof goggles, gloves, suits, gloves, hoods, gloves, booties, gloves, droplet barrier masks, and gloves.
2) One break in protocol will be a terminal error.
3) And potentially expose everyone you come into contact with to the virus.
4) And require you to start all over again getting suited up for, or deconned out of, any hot zone
5) Oh, and lest we forget, it's June, and the ensemble inside is hot-as-$#@!ing-hell, and gives the average person maybe two hours' time before they're ready to pass out from heat stroke, before we factor in dehydration, claustrophobia, and sheer panic.
6) Did we mention that hot, tired, dehydrated, exhausted, and panicky people make $#@!tons of sloppy mistakes?
7) Did we also mention that one mistake can get you and everyone you love or contact killed?

So yeah, $#@! the idea of working in hazmat gear. Professionals hate it. With all the resources mentioned above you'll never have.
You?
You don't stand a chance.

Proper protective equipment for Ebola, we repeat and belabor, is several lengths of military-grade concertina, warning signs, a shotgun and supply of buckshot, and small breakable containers with a suitable flame accelerant, for emergency decontamination beyond the perimeter.

Chance of Ebola sneaking up your driveway and into you behind such a perimeter: 0%.

Odds of seeing this material again before the end of the year: better than even.

Happy Summer, kids!
Now do you see why I don't want to bring this up any more frequently?

UPDATE: 116 Africans, including congolese refugees, caught crossing Rio Grande
What could possibly go wrong?

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/june-ebola-update.html
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Ebola cases doubled from 1000 in March to 2000 in June
 
Swordsmyth said:
People from all over the world came to America in droves before we had much of a welfare system, I absolutely support getting rid of welfare but the immigrants from socialist cultures with terrible economies would still come here for the economic opportunity and bring their socialist values with them, then they would vote for welfare.

We have to limit immigration and control our borders or we will end up no different than the rest of the world that is socialist/communist.
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Unless you take a big giant rocket ship to another planet and find a rock to live under, people can not live in isolation. Isolation and setting bad examples only leads to more of the same. Instead of spouting off statist rhetoric, it is about time that we embrace and promote the ideas of liberty, freedom and fiscal responsibility.

Ron Paul has been speaking here in America, as well as travel to Mexico where is well received. It may take time, it may not resonate with many, but that is the only choice that we have. Otherwise, what you propose will only provide certainty for tptb.
 
kahless said:
IBWC locks 'We Build the Wall' gate open citing permit issue
https://www.kvia.com/news/border/ib...wall-gate-open-citing-permit-issue/1085172933


IBWC sounds like a terrorist organization. DHS should round them up and lock them up.
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The wiki on the IBWC for the northern border has an interesting section:
In July 2007, the Bush administration relieved U.S. Commissioner Dennis Schornack of his post in connection with a dispute between the boundary commission and the U.S. government over private construction near the border.[4] Schornack rejected the dismissal, saying that the commission is an independent, international organization outside the U.S. government's jurisdiction, and that according to the 1908 treaty that created it, a vacancy can only be created by "the death, resignation or other disability" of a commissioner.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Boundary_Commission
 
PAF said:
Unless you take a big giant rocket ship to another planet and find a rock to live under, people can not live in isolation. Isolation and setting bad examples only leads to more of the same. Instead of spouting off statist rhetoric, it is about time that we embrace and promote the ideas of liberty, freedom and fiscal responsibility.

Ron Paul has been speaking here in America, as well as travel to Mexico where is well received. It may take time, it may not resonate with many, but that is the only choice that we have. Otherwise, what you propose will only provide certainty for tptb.
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I am not "isolationist" (why am I not surprised to see you use that old slur?), I believe in allowing foreigners to visit and even allowing some to immigrate but liberty is not the natural state of man and if you don't insulate your politics and culture you will be reduced to the lowest common denominator of tyranny.
 
[video=youtube;YPvwBjfNO7M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=43&v=YPvwBjfNO7M[/video]
 
Officials in Sunland Park, Arizona are threatening a landowner with arrest for failing to appear at a court hearing on a large border wall constructed on his property with the city’s approval.
Court officials told KFOX 14 that George Cudahy, owner of the American Eagle Brick Factory, faces a criminal summons after failing to show up to court on an unspecified charge Wednesday night, presumably related to the construction of a half-mile steel wall along his property bordering Mexico.
The city of sunland park New Mexico is now threatening an elderly veteran who had the wall built on his property. They can’t touch @WeBuildtheWall and they ignore the crisis in their town. Where are their priorities? https://t.co/V9vUVERngb
— Brian Kolfage (@BrianKolfage) June 20, 2019
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“The court wouldn’t tell KFOX 14 the specific charge Cudahy is facing, but it comes with a $500 fine, which is the highest amount the municipal court is legally allowed to charge,” according to the news site. “The city of Sunland Park will be filing a criminal summons, meaning if Cudahy misses his next hearing, the city will arrest him.”


More at: http://www.theamericanmirror.com/nm...y-owner-with-arrest-over-private-border-wall/
 
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