Finally revealed: How we can bring in millions to the freedom movement!

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First off, let me ask you to open your mind and consider the
possibilities of this project. It has far reaching affects that can
easily unite and educate millions of American and citizens
around the world.

Please don't bash the idea or hijack this thread. If you don't
have anything constructive to offer, please keep it to yourself.
Thank you.

Keep in mind that this project isn't 100% yet and is always evolving.
FYI: Actions that you can choose to take I'll indicate with red.

OK, here we go...

Members of www.SaveGasNow.org earn 100% commissions for
all $7 members they refer. (All members automatically get their
own referral URL that look something like this:
http://www.savegasnow.org/save-gas-saving/?save_gas_partner=310

There are many benefits for members besides the "247 Gas Saving Tips"
You can read about them at SaveGasNow.org (These gas saving tips are
a compilation of advanced driving skills from 13 years of writing and
integrating. I won't go into all of that here, but know that all of my
writings are to protect and grow OUR FREEDOMS!)

Members will receive followup emails.
a) about some of the tips
b) How to find the lowest gas prices in their area.
c) A strategy to lower gas prices
d) Information about H.R. 2415 'The Affordable Gas Price Act' and
a simple way for them to find their Congressman's contact info, an
email to send to them and a petition to sign. (more on this later)

(the above are already in place, the ones below will be added soon)

e) How war affects oil prices (we know it, but others don't)
f) Other reasons why oil is the price it is.
g) Who controls oil prices.
h) Why we have the oil refinery regulations we do, why a new refinery
hasn't been built in the U.S. since 1976 and why we don't pump oil
from two of the largest oil pools in the world from Alaska.
i) Lindsey Williams book "Energy Non-Crisis!" + 8 video youtube set.
j) What NAFTA is and how it will affect the economy thus gas prices.
k) The politicians who benefit the most from high gas prices.
l) March on Washington :D
m) Just added to the list: $1 a Gallon - The Real Price of Gas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ad0se6c0FM
n) Reverting to the gold standard

There will be more too.

Each followup email already has that members referral URL included
in it (100% commissions), which gives it that much more incentive to
forward to their friends and family (which is also requested in each email).

There's also a request to comment on each email by going to:
http://www.rushhourrelief.com/gas-saving-blog/
so that their voice can be heard and to offer one more way to 'spread
the word' and thus bring more and more people into the freedom movement.

The first post was just added and it'd be really nice if several people
would go there and post a positive comment to help get the ball rolling.



To jump back up to e) up above, a petition was just created at
www.StandAndUnite.com for everyone to sign
regarding H.R. 2415.
(I do understand that petitions are mostly insignificant but they do offer unity
and knowledge.) The most beneficial parts of this step are:

a) It offers a way for people to easily find their Congressman's contact info,
b) it offers a sample email for them to send to your Congressman,
c) people will email friends and family about the petition (creates word of mouth),
d) (re)-introduces people to Dr. Paul and
e) introduces people to DownsizeDC and JBS (other liberty sites and actions
to be added)


There are 3 things required for WE THE PEOPLE to exercise our control
over government and they are 'unity', 'knowledge' and 'action'.

This is one my over-all goals and one that will evolve society thus ensure
that we protect and grow our freedoms.

And as we approach the DC march and especially the RNC, special emails
will go out informing and inviting (and requesting that they invite others)
to join us. Each of which will also be promoting "The Revolution; A Manifest"
so that others can continue to understand why we are doing what we are doing.

The possibilities are really quite endless!



Then there's www.FutureFoundingFathers.com which hasn't been constructed
yet and is quite some time away but it will be a report card of how ALL
Congressmen, House Reps, Governors, state reps and other officials voted
on each and every bill (all the way down to alderman) so that WE THE PEOPLE
can easily know our elected officials and can actively support those who are
really there FOR US!

Also included will be a system to honestly rank your local law enforcement.
In the future I see and want, they will be hired by us and fired by us. They
will be there for us... not against us!

'Driving evolution' being my passion, my life's mission is to deregulate
irrational traffic laws, increase and protect person freedoms and individual
rights and to achieve smooth flowing rushhour traffic, which is absolutely
possible with the right knowledge.

This brings us right back around to where I started... "247 Gas Saving Tips"
which is all about eliminating traffic congestion thus saving every gas, time
and money.



OK, I know I got a little winded there but I felt it necessary in order for
you to see the full picture and potential of what's possible here.

Feel free to participate as little or as much as you'd like.

Your Friend and Ally for freedom,
Hunter
www.SaveGasNow.org
www.StandAndUnite.com
www.RushHourRelief.com/gas-saving-blog/




Admin Note- please keep you off-topic and critical analysis in this thread here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=140322

Use this thread for questions, constructive feedback and related comments. Thanks!


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How about letting RPF members be "founders" at the top of the pyramid with complementary membership and a copy of 'The Complete Science of Driving'

Do it for the Revolution, man!
 
I forgot to mention that commissions go directly into the referrers paypal.
There's no waiting, no middle man, no hassle!
 
Good idea, but be careful. There is a general cultural bias against those who make money while overtly and actively striving to help society progress (thanks to the the anti-free market rhetoric that American students receive in high doses throughout their education), even, I am ashamed to say, on our own forums. Unfortunately, folks don't understand that removing economic incentives to improve society through private means disrupts and destroys the very methods of progress, because the state surely is not, and never has been, responsible for prosperity.
 
I remember looking at your site back in October or November.

People are going to think it is a scam, regardless of your intentions, simply because your business plan is identical to all the other fraudulent ponzi schemes.

Best of luck though.

Yes, since then I re-structured the whole thing. Before was a contest
where I offered cash prizes after so many referrals.

I took all the feedback and made it so that referrals get 100% commissions
on the front-end. And I eliminated the contest altogether. There's definitely
no pyramid and there's definitely no scheme. Just 100% commissions on
a $7 membership.
 
I don't think I claimed that I just launched SaveGasNow.org
It's only a small (but vital) part of how to bring people together
and unite and educate them.

Hunter

p.s. Mods, I really wish you'd delete the blatant bashing posts.
It is in the terms-of-use and I did request that they not bash.

p.p.s. I knowledge everyones right to be skeptical. It's good and
healthy but please keep an open mind and look at the bigger picture.
 
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OK, if people really get 100% commision, then I don't think it is a ponzi scheme. Ponzi schemes are multi-layered, whereas this plan seems to only have two layers.

Thanks for deleting your previous thread.

It's the same as any other referral program such as Amazon.
The only difference is that Amazon doesn't offer 100% and I
don't think that Amazon pays IMMEDIATELY.


p.s. Just so everyone knows and it doesn't become an issue, all a
member needs to do to make sure they get their commissions is:

a) enter their PayPal address in the "Money Earned" area and
b) use YOUR referral URL

simple.
 
Rebel, I like your strategy to educate people through this issue. Gas leads to oil. Oil leads to big government. It is a logical progression for a person to make.

I just don't understand the $7, referral thing. Why not make the 247 gas saving tips available on the internet for free?

Hell, you could show a number of tips for free and require a login (e-mail address) to view all of the tips. When the login is created, there would be an option to receive follow up e-mails.

At this point, you could send these follow up e-mails, which could easily have a 'freedom agenda' slant. This approach really could work.

The problem with the current approach is that people are not going to pay money for something that they can get for free by returning to a search engine and typing in 'gas saving tips', especially when the design of the page looks like a scam.
 
How does this help the Grassroots effort to get Ron Paul Elected? :confused:

I agree. I've seen posts here moved to other forums because they had nothing to do with RP grassroots. And some of them at least had something to do with Ron Paul or other candidates!

I'm not sure how these 2 posts that were so blatantly started just to mislead members for personal gain are still here. :confused:
 
I just don't understand the $7, referral thing. Why not make the 247 gas saving tips available on the internet for free?

Hell, you could show a number of tips for free and require a login (e-mail address) to view all of the tips. When the login is created, there would be an option to receive follow up e-mails.

At this point, you could send these follow up e-mails, which could easily have a 'freedom agenda' slant. This approach really could work.

The problem with the current approach is that people are not going to pay money for something that they can get for free by returning to a search engine and typing in 'gas saving tips', especially when the design of the page looks like a scam.

a) I was working this morning to reinsert the free optin but with the program,
I wasn't able to very easily, and I was under some serious pressure to 'reveal
it already'. Not to mention, the commissions WILL benefit a lot of people.

b) only about 50 of my 247 gas saving tips are typical and even those have
been upgraded to reveal many misconceptions. The other 200 I derived from my
advanced driving tips which are NOT typical... Freedom loving, rebel drivers
(not bad, overly aggressive drivers) already practice many of them. But they
aren't typical and they aren't 'slow down and save gas' nonsense.

c) Anyone CAN access ALL 247 gas saving tips from right there on on the homepage.
I'm just offering a way for them to get them all in a pdf... and a membership
with other free bonuses to boot.
 
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aha... so this is what you kept us waiting for? this is what will, in your own words:

Help get 100s of thousands of people aware of Dr. Paul,
get an extra 10,000 to the July 12th march,
get an extra 50,000 to the RNC,
sell several more thousand copies of "The Revolution",
get millions aware of H.R. 2415 'The Affordable Gas Price Act'
and having many emailing their Congressman, which in turn
will have affects that will...

a) help oust the unhealthy Congressmen and
b) elect RP Congressmen

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
Amazing idea!

A few suggestions...

Not everyone wants to earn money and some potential subscribers will definitely be turned off by the "earn 100% commissions" message. I would remove all the the references to making money, simply charge $7, and add a small link saying "affiliate program" or "webmasters" at the bottom where you explain the details. Additionally, I would probably email everyone a few days after they signed up to inform them of the opportunity.

Finally, instead of quoting Anne Frank (seems kind of irrelevant), I would probably quote Ron Paul instead.

Good luck!!!!!!
 
Amazing idea!

A few suggestions...

Not everyone wants to earn money and some potential subscribers will definitely be turned off by the "earn 100% commissions" message. I would remove all the the references to making money, simply charge $7, and add a small link saying "affiliate program" or "webmasters" at the bottom where you explain the details. Additionally, I would probably email everyone a few days after they signed up to inform them of the opportunity.

Finally, instead of quoting Anne Frank (seems kind of irrelevant), I would probably quote Ron Paul instead.

Good luck!!!!!!

Thank you!
Very good, constructive feedback!
The quote has been up there for a long time, great idea, I'll do that.
 
I'm an honest guy, it just costs $7 if you want to ask me something.


If you knew the meaning of life, and you were selling the answer for $7 dollars I still wouldn't pay for it cause its just crooked sounding.

You can get get all 247 tips for free if you want to. Just follow any of
the tip links and navigate from tip to tip.

p.s. Your thinking is some bad programming about 'business' and
about 'making money'. If we want to evolve as a movement and as
a society, then we really want to start countering this destructive
mindset.
 
And I explained that I've restructured everything.
It's obvious that we don't like each other and that you're simply
caring on a personal grudge and probably a whole lot of jealousy.

Well.. I don't know you, so I don't dislike you...

However, I don't see how this can have anything to do with the Ron Paul grassroots movement.

You posted a message a day ago keeping everyone here in suspense about an idea that will "help get 100s of thousands of people aware of Dr. Paul"..

And then you come out with a website about how to save on gas? I don't get it. How does that help the grassroots campaign?
 
Well.. I don't know you, so I don't dislike you...

However, I don't see how this can have anything to do with the Ron Paul grassroots movement.

You posted a message a day ago keeping everyone here in suspense about an idea that will "help get 100s of thousands of people aware of Dr. Paul"..

And then you come out with a website about how to save on gas? I don't get it. How does that help the grassroots campaign?

Did you read the whole OP and did you
see the other sites? All of which are designed
to increase awareness about oil, Dr. Paul,
freedom, etc... And to 'get the word out' which
will cause more of the same.

I know it takes a bit of vision but I think
most of us [here] are capable of exercising our
minds.
 
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