Fifth Draft of USA Today Ad -- Really about final!!

[RonPaulStreetTeam]

pictures of old white men getting bigger and more boring.
Ron paul getting smaller and more drowned out.

this gets worse by the revision.

total redo see thread here
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=37401

 

[kylejack]

"Congressman Paul never receives money from lobbyists or special interest groups."

WHY is this not being changed? It is false false false. He takes money from special interest groups in every single election cycle. The statement is patently false. Please change this before sending it!

"Congressman Paul never receives money from lobbyists or special interest groups."

WHY is this not being changed? It is false false false. He takes money from special interest groups in every single election cycle. The statement is patently false. Please change this before sending it!

"Congressman Paul never receives money from lobbyists or special interest groups."

WHY is this not being changed? It is false false false. He takes money from special interest groups in every single election cycle. The statement is patently false. Please change this before sending it!

"Congressman Paul never receives money from lobbyists or special interest groups."

WHY is this not being changed? It is false false false. He takes money from special interest groups in every single election cycle. The statement is patently false. Please change this before sending it!

I can't stress this enough. I'm bringing it up in every revision thread. Please fix it.

 

[Jojo]

Please Make The Founders Face The Reader And Look Towards The Middle....

I agree, and many others have suggested it. When they all look at the reader it's like they're compelling you to read.

 

[kipload]

This is the fifth draft of the ad being commissioned by llepard. Try to keep comments to issues of high importance.

A pdf will be made available soon!


Detailed view - top half:

Lower half:

Full view:

1) Founders need to face center

2) "Ron Paul will..." needs to be removed from the "warned us..." section if you are going to have the founders speaking in first person!!!!

3) "Ron Paul advocates a Government by the People - Ron Paul PUTS America first *Delete the last two items* Present tense NOT Future... very important!

4) "www.RonPaul2008.com" and "1-877-RON-PAUL" only at the bottom.

Change those four things and the ad is about where it needs to be.

 

[Jojo]

please give us specs, the DPI (I assume 300) and res for the ad?
I know it will be black and white.
Can it hurt you to give us specs? I mean alll people will do is try to create a better ad.
So others can see.

Let the others have a chance to design and us to vote on.

I personally like this idea. Just not sure if there is still time for that.. Or is there?
Of course it's up to the person paying for the ad. And the original designer(s).

But I like the idea of having those that totally reject this ad, come up with a new one SOON. Then let the awesomely generous funder of the ad decide.

 

[francisco]

Don't know if it's of "high importance," but I think I saw a previous version that said, "The Founding Fathers. . . " instead of "We The Founding Fathers. . ."

I'm sure it's been discussed, but for what it's worth I did like it without the "We."

I continue to support the above comment. I've tried to express it in the most forceful and reasoned way. If this point is ignored, you will be leaving a very bad impression on many in your audience.

If many supporters come off with a bad impression from this phrasing, why do you think that newcomers to Ron Paul's message won't?

Something about the "triumph of hope over experience" here.

 

[AFM]

1) Founders need to face center

2) "Ron Paul will..." needs to be removed from the "warned us..." section if you are going to have the founders speaking in first person!!!!

3) "Ron Paul advocates a Government by the People - Ron Paul PUTS America first *Delete the last two items* Present tense NOT Future... very important!

4) "www.RonPaul2008.com" and "1-877-RON-PAUL" only at the bottom.

Change those four things and the ad is about where it needs to be.

Exacto my friend

 

[musicmax]

One more time and then I'm going to stop banging my head against the wall:

PATRIOT Act. ALL CAPS.

Millions of illegals. Not legions.

Forward-facing picture of Jefferson.

Identify the founders by name.

Nobody knows what "fiat" means.

Never solicits money from lobbyists.

ONE phone number and ONE website with www in front of it.

 

[ButchHowdy]

Hey Lawrence,

The ad looks great!

My concern however, is that it only educates the reader, which is great but for the amount of money spent, I would want a significant return in the form of their primary vote, which I believe is our next most significant hurdle in our effort to elect Ron Paul.

 

[max]

This version is an abortion

This ad is an abortion...

a mere watered down..over edited...censored shadow of what I originally ran in NH....a piece that Carol Paul herself read and loved!

An abortion...carried out by the consensus of a fearful mob of timid amatuers in these forums...

The emotional punch is GONE...it reads like a president's day 1- day sale ad now...

Does anyone still have the original screen shot that I ran in NH? The version that so inspired this generous patron to run this nationwide?


welcome to politically correct libertarianism....a movement where people seem more interested in blending in with the media led sheep as opposed to inspiring them and LEADING them to move in the direction of liberty and truth..

 

[wfd40]

Revisiting someone's sample from thread about draft #2... only to point out the Founders' facing center, Ron Paul same size, a PROFOUND improvement:

changing to the above is almost such a no brainer that I'm sure it wont be done... lolz

 

[adwads]

This ad is an abortion...

a mere watered down..over edited...censored shadow of what I originally ran in NH....a piece that Carol Paul herself read and loved!

An abortion...carried out by the consensus of a fearful mob of timid amatuers in these forums...

The emotional punch is GONE...it reads like a president's day 1- day sale ad now...

Does anyone still have the original screen shot that I ran in NH? The version that so inspired this generous patron to run this nationwide?


welcome to politically correct libertarianism....a movement where people seem more interested in blending in with the media rled sheep as opposed to inspiring them to move in the direction of liberty and truth..

Common, be happy that there is a supporter who is willing to spend over $100,000 of his own money on an ad. It's a good ad overall because it states Ron Paul's positions. The size of his picture or the direction that the founders are facing are not big enough issues to get upset about.

 

[bolidew]

If the author/editor of this AD insists the way it is, so be it.
Good luck!
This AD will NOT make or break our compaign, anyway.

 

[kipload]

This is what most of us seem to agree on!!!

This is a list of the items that I've seen most people agree on. Some of them are pretty big issues as far as design and grammar. I think if you address these issues most people will be happy with what you got so far.

1) Founders need to face center

2) "Ron Paul will..." needs to be removed from the "warned us..." section if you are going to have the founders speaking in first person!!!!

3) "Ron Paul advocates a Government by the People - Ron Paul PUTS America first *Delete the last two items* Present tense NOT Future... very important!

4) www.RonPaul2008.com and 1-877-RON-PAUL only at the bottom.

5) PATRIOT Act. ALL CAPS.

6) Millions of illegals. Not legions.

7) Statements about lobbyists needs to changed

Thank you for your work Mr. Lepard. I know this thread has gotten heated, but I jsut think everyone wants it to go over well... Honestly, out of all of the arguing I these seem to be the points that most people are making.

 

[wfd40]

This ad is an abortion...

a mere watered down..over edited...censored shadow of what I originally ran in NH....a piece that Carol Paul herself read and loved!

An abortion...carried out by the consensus of a fearful mob of timid amatuers in these forums...

The emotional punch is GONE...it reads like a president's day 1- day sale ad now...

Does anyone still have the original screen shot that I ran in NH? The version that so inspired this generous patron to run this nationwide?


welcome to politically correct libertarianism....a movement where people seem more interested in blending in with the media rled sheep as opposed to inspiring them to move in the direction of liberty and truth..

I actually agree... shock and awe! Seriously, we want to stir up some media controversy. The ad, as it stands now, is blah at best, utterly forgettable at worst.

Remember, Ron Paul has no problem defending any of the positions he takes because they are grounded in the constitution.

You all honestly think the MSM is going to pick up the story about a rather tame national Ad in USAToday? Heck no.. they want controversy! Only this time, like every other, attempting to bury Paul under said controversy instead exposes the people to pretty amazing ideals like freedom, peace and prosperity.

Which is why I say.. run the controversy.. bring on the MSM, and let Dr. Paul explain to any and all takers what this country is really about.

 

[thomaseusin]

Being a 30-second reader, I 2nd this opinion!

Revisiting someone's sample from thread about draft #2... only to point out the Founders' facing center, Ron Paul same size, a PROFOUND improvement:

 

[Melissa]

I would have to agree somethine very moving for all that money not just another plain ad.

 

[michaelwise]

Someone should do a Digg article on this.
FMNN article about his effort.

"The graphic design work is provided by Ron Paul supporter and longtime graphic artist Linda Lagana from NH; the ad concept was the brain work of Max, Walt, Lord Zar, Torchbearer, and the team at www.ronpaulforums.com."

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=51414

 

[DesertRat]

Need to lose the accusatory tone.

I highly reccomend removing the personally accusatory tone from the warnings particularly the first one. I am going to approach this on a first person level after just reading it. On a personal level you are telling me that it is my fault that we are in these entanglements even though I have opposed them all along. The fact is that the government just doesn't listen to us anymore.

I know there are arguments about how it could be our fault because not enough of us vote etc. etc., but I guarantee you that lots of people are going to read that first warning and immediatley be pissed off, and not in a good way. It's okay to get peoples attention, but blaming them for something they overwhelmingly dissaprove of is going to cause tremendous damage to Dr. Pauls campaign.

Please, please consider going back to the earlier approach of using we and not blaming the indivudual readers for causing all the things the ad is warning them about. We can get peoples attention and let them know that we have severe problems as a nation, but once again I really think that directly blaming the person that we are trying to reach is going to fail as a call to action.

 

[wfd40]

Common, be happy that there is a supporter who is willing to spend over $100,000 of his own money on an ad. It's a good ad overall because it states Ron Paul's positions. The size of his picture or the direction that the founders are facing are not big enough issues to get upset about.

Surely, but if I were going to drop 100k, I certainly wouldn't mind - actually, strike that, I'd be doing everything in my power to garner as many multiple millions in free MSM-over-reacting advertising as I could get.

Its called the truth - and its on the side of Dr. Paul.