Fetterman introduces bipartisan ban on going cashless

[Swordsmyth]

As more businesses go cashless, Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) wants to make it illegal to refuse legal tender.

Fetterman, along with Sen. Kevin Cramer (R-ND), introduced the Payment Choice Act on Thursday. It would require businesses to accept cash without any strings attached.

“It’s simple,” Fetterman said, “if you’re open for business in America, you should take U.S. dollar.”

Under the proposed legislation, businesses must either accept cash or provide a device that converts cash to a prepaid card so long as it does not charge a fee. Businesses could refuse payments made with $50 bills or larger.

Failure to comply would come with a $500 fine for a first offense and not more than $1,500 for subsequent offenses.

The bill earned the support of the National ATM Council, which represents the business interests of ATM owners.

Americans going cashless has increased by double digits in less than a decade, according to the Pew research Center. In 2022, 41% said they paid for none of their purchases with cash.

Despite the declining rate, Fetterman said cash still make up 20% of all payments in the country.

https://www.abc27.com/pennsylvania-politics/fetterman-introduces-bipartisan-ban-on-going-cashless/

https://www.abc27.com/pennsylvania-politics/fetterman-introduces-bipartisan-ban-on-going-cashless/

 

[acptulsa]

What? Praise for a Democrat?

 

[PAF]

What? Praise for a Democrat?

Is he "siding" with him too?

 

[CCTelander]

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I certainly do NOT support a cashless society but…

I’m confused here. Are we now supposed to support the fedgov dictating the terms of private contracts/transactions?

Freedom?

 

[PAF]

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I certainly do NOT support a cashless society but…

I’m confused here. Are we now supposed to support the fedgov dictating the terms of private contracts/transactions?

Freedom?

^ Bingo. ^

 

[acptulsa]

I’m confused here. Are we now supposed to support the fedgov dictating the terms...

Depends on who you ask.

 

[Snowball]

The best thing about this bill is that it will expose those who vote against it.

 

[PAF]

The best thing about this bill is that it will expose those who vote against it.

What if somebody doesn't vote? Does it make them complicit?

 

[Snowball]

What if somebody doesn't vote? Does it make them complicit?

Bad: They abstain, the bill passes.
Worse: They abstain, the bill fails.

Situation 1 doesn't necessarily make them complicit, but it makes them unwilling to reveal their position, which is bad.
Situation 2 does make them complicit.

 

[PAF]

Bad: They abstain, the bill passes.
Worse: They abstain, the bill fails.

Situation 1 doesn't necessarily make them complicit, but it makes them unwilling to reveal their position, which is bad.
Situation 2 does make them complicit.

More people [suggestively] should not give credibility to a corrupt system.

Tom Massie: "Noncompliance is more effective than voting." He must have taken the time to say that for some reason, or another.

 

[CaptUSA]

More people [suggestively] should not give credibility to a corrupt system.

Tom Massie: "Noncompliance is more effective than voting." He must have taken the time to say that for some reason, or another.

Adding the full context here since you continually misrepresent it.



He wasn't saying that voting is giving credibility to a corrupt system - he was saying that if you want to overturn a law, it's more effective to disobey it than it is to vote for people to overturn it for you. What he did say was that if you vote for someone who expands those laws, you give that law more credibility since the person enacting it pays no price. Massie continually asks for and campaigns for votes.

 

[PAF]

Adding the full context here since you continually misrepresent it.

He wasn't saying that voting is giving credibility to a corrupt system - he was saying that if you want to overturn a law, it's more effective to disobey it than it is to vote for people to overturn it for you. What he did say was that if you vote for someone who expands those laws, you give that law more credibility since the person enacting it pays no price. Massie continually asks for and campaigns for votes.

Noooooo... you don't say!

I actually sat down with Tom and had some nice discussions. He believes the anarchist position is what it's going to take. He also agrees with Ron Paul [and me] that it's up to people to find their own ways of rebellion. If you weren't hidden under a rock, you might get out more and learn something.

Bad: They abstain, the bill passes.
Worse: They abstain, the bill fails.

Which way would "vote", @CaptUSA? "Bad" -or- "worse"?

 

[CaptUSA]

Noooooo... you don't say!

So, you're calling Massie and Ron hypocrites, then?

Or perhaps... just perhaps... you're twisting their words and meaning to fit your own narrative?

 

[PAF]

So, you're calling Massie and Ron hypocrites, then?

Or perhaps... just perhaps... you're twisting their words and meaning to fit your own narrative?

Nice try.

He also agrees with Ron Paul [and me] that it's up to people to find their own ways of rebellion.

 

[CaptUSA]

He also agrees with Ron Paul [and me] that it's up to people to find their own ways of rebellion.

And one of those ways is... Uh oh... VOTING.

Something he does CONSTANTLY.

 

[CaptUSA]

And one of those ways is... Uh oh... VOTING for measures and people to dismantle the parts of government you find disagreeable.

Something he does CONSTANTLY.

 

[PAF]

And one of those ways is... Uh oh... VOTING.

Something he does CONSTANTLY.

He also said that he won't lose any sleep over not getting reelected if that were to happen.

Keep trying... you might get somewhere, someday. Or not lol

 

[69360]

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I certainly do NOT support a cashless society but…

I’m confused here. Are we now supposed to support the fedgov dictating the terms of private contracts/transactions?

Freedom?

Well it could actually lead to more freedom. If this is passed, in the future the fed can't mandate a fedcoin or fedcard for payment in the future without undoing this.

 

[CaptUSA]

He also said that he won't lose any sleep over not getting reelected if that were to happen.

Keep trying... you might get somewhere, someday. Or not lol

You're the one using EVERY DAMNED THREAD to try to tell liberty-minded people not to vote. I'm just pointing out that many liberty-minded people disagree with you. And it doesn't make them "less" libertarian.

 

[PAF]

Well it could actually lead to more freedom. If this is passed, in the future the fed can't mandate a fedcoin or fedcard for payment in the future without undoing this.

If this is passes, it gives the government more control over regulating, and also profits on "failure to comply".