Ferguson Follow-Up: “Any Felony Rule,” Velvet Gloves for the Iron Fist

[AuH20]

You are earning an F in situational awareness as well. Michael Brown is not your problem. Militarized, murderous police forces all over the country functionally eliminating your inalienable rights are.

Please explain to me what you are not getting as to which one is the important thing you should be focused on.

Actually, Michael Brown and his ilk are my problem because they give TPTB the perfect excuse to enact martial law. What do you think would happen if the EBT card system goes offline? Remember that trial episode a year or two ago? It was complete pandemonium.

 

[AuH20]

So all this striving for freedom is pointless, then.

Your contention is that without a heavy handed, authoritarian force to keep "the savages" in line, we'll devolve into barbarism?

No. If people took responsibility for each other and their kids (and this cuts across all demographics), we wouldn't need police. What we're witnessing is the great passing of the buck and the government is excellent at concentrating this mentality into raw power.

 

[thoughtomator]

Actually, Michael Brown and his ilk are my problem because they give TPTB the perfect excuse to enact martial law. What do you think would happen if the EBT card system goes offline? Remember that trial episode a year or two ago? It was complete pandemonium.

Looks like TPTB have successfully managed to transfer your anger at them to a subset of your fellow citizens - a subset which is in the condition it is in precisely because they have been abused by TPTB for so many generations.

Mission accomplished, for somebody.

 

[AuH20]

Looks like TPTB have successfully managed to transfer your anger at them to a subset of your fellow citizens.

Mission accomplished, for somebody.

When I go to the ATM tonight, I'm not looking around for the TPTB. Your fellow citizens will just as easily gut you if the price is right. Sure, the TPTB will go through elaborate schemes of control, but don't discount the envy element that they have cultivated to such an alarming potency.

 

[acptulsa]

So you're seriously trying to convince me that you believe this cop responded to the theft of one pack of cigarilloes, interviewed two or three people, reviewed the footage from at least three cameras, and got a detailed report out on the airwaves between 11:54 and 12:01?

Enjoying being a pawn in their game?

 

[Anti Federalist]

When I go to the ATM tonight, I'm not looking around for the TPTB. Your fellow citizens will just as easily gut you if the price is right. Sure, the TPTB will go through elaborate schemes of control, but don't discount the envy element that they have cultivated to such an alarming potency.

Maybe it's just where I live or my personal view, but I have no fear of either ululating Jihadists OR hordes of urban savages storming my home, shooting my dog, blowing up my home or ventilating my body with a couple hundred rounds of 5.56 or .40 S and W.

Or stealing my cash.

 

[JK/SEA]

Actually, Michael Brown and his ilk are my problem because they give TPTB the perfect excuse to enact martial law. What do you think would happen if the EBT card system goes offline? Remember that trial episode a year or two ago? It was complete pandemonium.

you're trying too hard.

 

[AuH20]

Maybe it's just where I live or my personal view, but I have no fear of either ululating Jihadists OR hordes of urban savages storming my home, shooting my dog, blowing up my home or ventilating my body with a couple hundred rounds of 5.56 or .40 S and W.

You're lucky. I'm on the outskirts of NYC off a main road. Bad news if this experiment falls. Most likely marauding gangs are in my future.

 

[AuH20]

So you're seriously trying to convince me that you believe this cop responded to the theft of one pack of cigarilloes, interviewed two or three people, reviewed the footage from at least three cameras, and got a detailed report out on the airwaves between 11:54 and 12:01?

Enjoying being a pawn in their game?

It's a called a APB via radio dispatch. Officer responded to description and known location. This isn't complex.

 

[acptulsa]

You're lucky. I'm on the outskirts of NYC off a main road. Bad news if this experiment falls.

Why are you ducking my question?

Could you do all that in seven minutes? Even if you were headed to that store for coffee when the call came in?

It's a called a APB via radio dispatch. Officer responded to description and known location. This isn't complex.

Radio waves travel at the speed of light. But verbal reports travel at the speed of sound. And video playbacks are hard to make out on fast forward. The cop didn't have time to view more than two camera angles in seven minutes, even assuming he skipped the interviews and had Scotty beam him to the store.

Care to try again?

 

[AuH20]

Why are you ducking my question?

Could you do all that in seven minutes? Even if you were headed to that store for coffee when the call came in?

Did you read my response. A 911 call was placed and redirected to dispatch. There wasn't any time intensive investigative work to be made. Wilson just needed to have his radio on. See the map.

 

[moostraks]

No. If people took responsibility for each other and their kids (and this cuts across all demographics), we wouldn't need police. What we're witnessing is the great passing of the buck and the government is excellent at concentrating this mentality into raw power.

So now we need to get rid of the idea that children belong to their families and realize they belong to the community? Wow, your propaganda is going for horrid to hell bound.

 

[acptulsa]

Did you read my response. A 911 call was placed and redirected to dispatch. There wasn't any time intensive investigative work to be made. Wilson just needed to have his radio on. See the map.

Who's talking about Wilson? I wasn't talking about the killer. I was talking about the cop that you allege drove to a store, interviewed at least two people, cued up and watched at least three videos, wrote up a report and called it in in six minutes flat.

Why don't you want to talk about him? Seems to me someone that talented is well worth remarking upon!

 

[AuH20]

So now we need to get rid of the idea that children belong to their families and realize they belong to the community? Wow, your propaganda is going for horrid to hell bound.

I never said that. I said that people have passed the buck instead of doing their job. If you expect teachers and police to teach and discipline your children, you're delusional. That's where we are as a society.

 

[phill4paul]

Who's talking about Wilson? I wasn't talking about the killer. I was talking about the cop that you allege drove to a store, interviewed at least two people, cued up and watched at least three videos, wrote up a report and called it in in six minutes flat.

Why don't you want to talk about him? Seems to me someone that talented is well worth remarking upon!

I don't believe the officer that took the report is the same one that encountered Brown. In the subsequent release of events it seemed to also reference the Brown shooting incident which led me to believe that it was a different officer.

Edit: Sorry, I misread. Very efficient indeed.

 

[thoughtomator]

I never said that. I said that people have passed the buck instead of doing their job. If you expect teachers and police to teach and discipline your children, you're delusional. That's where we are as a society.

Their fathers are gone because the government replaces the income they normally provide to a family. These people are in this condition due to the very government that today summarily executes them in the streets. Yet somehow it is the fault of boys who are raised in ignorance, violence, poverty, and a police state that pre-existed their births.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Radio waves travel at the speed of light. But verbal reports travel at the speed of sound. And video playbacks are hard to make out on fast forward. The cop didn't have time to view more than two camera angles in seven minutes, even assuming he skipped the interviews and had Scotty beam him to the store.

Care to try again?

I'm beginning to see what happened here, I think.

I'm not buying that timeline at all, but I'm thinking that St. Louis Co. PD just won the PR lottery, by matching up Brown and Johnson ripping off that store, to justify themselves, after the fact.

That would explain the delay in making any of this public, as they ginned up the reports, but not competently enough to make sure the time stamps lined up properly.

Would also explain why Brown pushed Wilson back into the car and tried to haul ass, figuring he was going to get busted for shoplifting.

What Brown did not reckon correctly is that he would get executed for that.

 

[phill4paul]

I'm beginning to see what happened here, I think.

I'm not buying that timeline at all, but I'm thinking that St. Louis Co. PD just won the PR lottery, by matching up Brown and Johnson ripping off that store, to justify themselves, after the fact.

That would explain the delay in making any of this public, as they ginned up the reports, but not competently enough to make sure the time stamps lined up properly.

Would also explain why Brown pushed Wilson back into the car and tried to haul ass, figuring he was going to get busted for shoplifting.

What Brown did not reckon correctly is that he would get executed for that.

The police chief in the St. Louis suburb where an unarmed black teenager was fatally shot by police says the officer didn't know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting.

http://politics.suntimes.com/articl...-didnt-know-he-was-suspect/fri-08152014-225pm

May well have been nothing more than "contempt of cop."

 

[AuH20]

http://politics.suntimes.com/articl...-didnt-know-he-was-suspect/fri-08152014-225pm

May well have been nothing more than "contempt of cop."

More like "Shit, blue got me" which would explain how the tussle started.

 

[phill4paul]

More like "Shit, blue got me" which would explain how the tussle started.

If I had just robbed a store and a cop told me to get out of the street wouldn't I simply comply with his demands as he rode on by?