Ferguson decision is in -- NO INDICTMENT

[specsaregood]

It was from the last 2 rounds of rioting in Ferguson. First there were a bunch of videos that non-locals posted going into Ferguson to riot and loot, then the looters arrested were all (except for 1 or 2) from out of town, and then there were interviews of people who were protesting but not rioting and they were locals, and then there was some investigative report that showed people coming in from out of town, rioting, and then leaving town. Add all those up and it adds up to "most of the rioters were not locals, most of the locals did not riot."

No, I don't have any links, just memory.

I'm not saying it isn't the case; but I doubt the claim's credibility. I'd wager the people making those claims, interviews and investigations benefit from pushing that claim. ie: people protesting don't want to be linked to rioters; so it makes sense the would try to claim they were from out of town. Besides, what does "non-local" mean? Ferguson is right in the middle of the greater st.louis metropolitan area. Is somebody that can take the metro bus from a different part of st.louis a "non-local"? somebody from right across the river in east st.louis? I don't think many of those looters have driven in from Chicago or Memphis.

 

[orenbus]

Non Ferguson residents claims in previous riots/looting were confirmed based on records of those arrested during those days in August, a considerable number being from out of state.

 

[jmdrake]

I keep seeing that posted, but haven't read the evidence supporting that claim. How do you know they are out-of-towners? Is the media checking their ids?

"Excuse me sir, I see you just lit that building on fire, can I check your id to see if you are a local?"

I already explained this to you but you missed it or ignored it. CNN was going from the license plates of the people coming in.

 

[specsaregood]

I already explained this to you but you missed it or ignored it. CNN was going from the license plates of the people coming in.

Yeah must have missed it. So you are saying they had the manpower and ability to link the majority of people responsible for the violence to an actual vehicle. I'm not buying it. in fact I'd expect the opposite to be true; I'd think that people interesting in just protesting would be more likely to drive in to town.

 

[jmdrake]

Non Ferguson residents claims in previous riots/looting were confrimed based on records of those arrested during those days in August, a considerable number being from out of state.

Right. http://fox2now.com/2014/08/20/98-of-tuesdays-arrests-were-not-from-ferguson/

FERGUSON, MO (KTVI) – The St. Louis County Police report that 51 people were arrested Tuesday in Ferguson. Only one of them was from town.

A breakdown of the arrests shows that 17% of those arrested were not from the state of Missouri, 27% were from the City of St. Louis and 47% were from St. Louis County.

 

[specsaregood]

Right. http://fox2now.com/2014/08/20/98-of-tuesdays-arrests-were-not-from-ferguson/

FERGUSON, MO (KTVI) – The St. Louis County Police report that 51 people were arrested Tuesday in Ferguson. Only one of them was from town.

A breakdown of the arrests shows that 17% of those arrested were not from the state of Missouri, 27% were from the City of St. Louis and 47% were from St. Louis County.

That is far from the majority or most and I wonder how many of those 17% were from east st. Louis.

 

[jmdrake]

Ferguson is right in the middle of the greater st.louis metropolitan area. Is somebody that can take the metro bus from a different part of st.louis a "non-local"? somebody from right across the river in east st.louis? I don't think many of those looters have driven in from Chicago or Memphis.

So? I mean really, what's your point? And how far out of Ferguson does someone have to be for you to realize the truth that they are not from Ferguson? If you are far enough from Ferguson that when you burn down their Taco Bell, yours in your own neighborhood is still find and dandy, then you're not from Ferguson.

 

[jmdrake]

That is far from the majority or most and I wonder how many of those 17% were from east st. Louis.

I'm not sure what math you are using, but 50 out of 51 not being from "town" is the overwhelming majority. Or maybe this is a geography issue. In this case people who are "outsiders" are those who will not be directly affected by the results of the rioting once they go home to sleep off their rage. Their gas stations are still standing. They can go buy their Taco Bell and order from the new breakfast menu because it's still standing.

 

[aGameOfThrones]

Don't Contempt of Cop and you won't get murdered, instead lick boots. BTW, licking boots can also be consider CoC depending on the cop.

 

[specsaregood]

I'm not sure what math class you went to, but 50 out of 51 not being from "town" is the overwhelming majority. Or maybe this is a geography issue. In this case people who are "outsiders" are those who will not be directly affected by the results of the rioting once they go home to sleep off their rage. Their gas stations are still standing. They can go buy their Taco Bell and order from the new breakfast menu because it's still standing.

We are gonna have to agree to disagree then. Ferguson is a small little town right in the middle of a major metropolitan city. You could probably walk out of ferguson in be in a different "town" and not even know it. I wouldn't consider anybody from most of st.louis county as "non-local". If you can take the metrobus there you are a local. Even people from east st.louis should probably be considered local, but I'll give you that.

The people pushing that meme are trying to paint the image that the people causing the problem are coming from far away and just there to make trouble and arent' at all representative of the people of that community. That's b.s. Hell if the only people that showed up to this bruahaha were people that lived in the small borders of "ferguson", there wouldn't be enough people there to warrant any media.

 

[Madison320]

I think the entire police force should leave the town of Ferguson. As soon as they leave the violence will stop. Citizens will begin shopping for for their own protection agencies and governments and everything will be wonderful.

 

[JK/SEA]

I think the entire police force should leave the town of Ferguson. As soon as they leave the violence will stop. Citizens will begin shopping for for their own protection agencies and governments and everything will be wonderful.

finally...someone who sees the best path to take as i did...

Its too logical, and therefore will not be a tactic that will be used, and we all know why...

 

[brandon]

I think the entire police force should leave the town of Ferguson. As soon as they leave the violence will stop. Citizens will begin shopping for for their own protection agencies and governments and everything will be wonderful.

Not sure if srs

 

[erowe1]

Not sure if srs

I can't tell either.

Even if he's joking, he's still more right than wrong.

 

[specsaregood]

I think the entire police force should leave the town of Ferguson. As soon as they leave the violence will stop. Citizens will begin shopping for for their own protection agencies and governments and everything will be wonderful.

FWIW, the "entire police force should leave the town of Ferguson" is only 50 something people.

 

[Madison320]

finally...someone who sees the best path to take as i did...

Its too logical, and therefore will not be a tactic that will be used, and we all know why...

That was sarcasm.

 

[JK/SEA]

Not sure if srs

so you support the current law enforcement tactics when it comes to protesters?....the large amount of taxpayer money spent on overtime, the equipment, and weapons, to defend a pissant biz that may employ minimum wage workers...

convince me this is good for taxpayers.

 

[erowe1]

I predict pretty much nothing will happen.

Its too big, too many people are expecting far too much out of this. I see a few arrest, a bottle will be thrown and someone will be arrested, the crowd will go "SHAME ON YOU" and we will move onto the next "Bottle Nose Dolphin flu" Monday.

I don't know how I would have reacted to this post if I had read it right after if was posted.

But what a difference a day makes.

 

[JK/SEA]

That was sarcasm.

too bad. I guess im getting too old to try and convince anyone of the folly of the police state...

carry on...and good luck with your mis-guided sarcasm.

 

[jmdrake]

We are gonna have to agree to disagree then. Ferguson is a small little town right in the middle of a major metropolitan city. You could probably walk out of ferguson in be in a different "town" and not even know it. I wouldn't consider anybody from most of st.louis county as "non-local". If you can take the metrobus there you are a local. Even people from east st.louis should probably be considered local, but I'll give you that.

The people pushing that meme are trying to paint the image that the people causing the problem are coming from far away and just there to make trouble and arent' at all representative of the people of that community. That's b.s. Hell if the only people that showed up to this bruahaha were people that lived in the small borders of "ferguson", there wouldn't be enough people there to warrant any media.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson,_Missouri
Ferguson is a city in St. Louis County, Missouri, United States.[1] It is part of the Greater St. Louis metropolitan area. The population was 21,203 at the 2010 census.[5]

You're saying that you honestly believe that if all 21,203 people who live in "Ferguson proper" started rioting nobody would notice? Divide that number by 10. If 2,120 people rioted all at once that would garner media attention.