Feminism Question

[Libertas Aut Mortis]

I got into it a little with a few rabid feminists today, in which they advocated for Equal Work for Equal Pay.

They said that it was a violation of their Liberty to be discriminated against by not being guaranteed equal wages to men.

I first attempted to point out the "myth" of the wage gap. They were unconvinced. Whatever...

So I explained the following concepts:

Positive Rights vs Negative Rights

Freedom of Association

Freedom of Contract

Property Rights

The parable from Jesus about the farmer, workers, and the wages.

The Free Market

Social Change versus Government Coercion


They were absolutely opposed to all of the above because:

It only works in theory. Since Men are in power, they desire to keep power, so they will never voluntarily treat people fairly. Then then went on to explain how MLK was only successful via government action.

I countered with removing the power of government to treat people unfairly, and I took the Goldwater Stance in the CRA.


To make a long argument short. I remained calm and explained principle, they got emotional and tried to shame me. How would you deal with someone who sees rights as a "group" thing instead of an "individual" thing?

 

[erowe1]

Would they also advocate laws requiring wealthy women to marry less wealthy men at the same rate as wealthy men marry less wealthy women?

 

[Suzanimal]

 

[alucard13mm]

I am pissed off lol.

I do videos where I review sexy armors for games on youtube. Sometimes some parts of the armor doesn't cover up things. So I use mosaic censor to censor things like nipples or vaginas. Generally nothing is going on, the character that is wearing the armor just stands there or walks around, doing nothing sexual. I get feminazis coming by saying how horrible I am and other stuff and flag my videos. Like I spent 12 hours censoring 4 minutes of footage. Literally moving the censor key frame every 0.5 seconds for each individual nipple or vagina to cover them up.

But then.. I see other videos with 200k, 500k, 1million views that dont get flagged. I saw titties in a Soprano's video where Tony and a few of his guys was in a strip club and there were girls dancing in the background naked. I saw titties on a zombie short film. You can see titties on front and side and an ass shot too of a female zombie. In a True Detective clip, I saw a woman rescuing her friend from a club of some sort and it had a few ladies with their titties out and in sexual poses/situation. In a clip froma film with Megan Fox. A woman was lifting up Megan Fox's boobs and poking at her boobies saying how perky they were.

None of those were flagged even though you can see titties.

I also see these feminazis bossing around game companies. Recently, some bitch complained to a game developer, Blizzard, about this game called Overwatch, where a female character had a victory pose where she is standing with her back facing you. That's it. She wasnt squeezing her butt cheeks. She didnt slap her butt cheeks. She didnt even arc her back to look seductive. Her pose got removed the next day.

I guess I am ranting and venting here lol. Its one of the main reasons why out of all the evil candidates for 2016.. I want Trump to be elected so some of these social justice warrior or feminazis might freak out and suicide lol. Hillary would be the worse since it will just empowered the feminazis.

 

[HVACTech]

I got into it a little with a few rabid feminists today, in which they advocated for Equal Work for Equal Pay.



To make a long argument short. I remained calm and explained principle, they got emotional and tried to shame me. How would you deal with someone who sees rights as a "group" thing instead of an "individual" thing?

how many female Plumbers do you know of? Electricians?

there are even LESS in the HVAC/R field. what are we doing wrong? it is NOT like it does not pay well...

 

[Origanalist]

I got into it a little with a few rabid feminists today, in which they advocated for Equal Work for Equal Pay.

They said that it was a violation of their Liberty to be discriminated against by not being guaranteed equal wages to men.

I first attempted to point out the "myth" of the wage gap. They were unconvinced. Whatever...

So I explained the following concepts:

Positive Rights vs Negative Rights

Freedom of Association

Freedom of Contract

Property Rights

The parable from Jesus about the farmer, workers, and the wages.

The Free Market

Social Change versus Government Coercion


They were absolutely opposed to all of the above because:

It only works in theory. Since Men are in power, they desire to keep power, so they will never voluntarily treat people fairly. Then then went on to explain how MLK was only successful via government action.

I countered with removing the power of government to treat people unfairly, and I took the Goldwater Stance in the CRA.


To make a long argument short. I remained calm and explained principle, they got emotional and tried to shame me. How would you deal with someone who sees rights as a "group" thing instead of an "individual" thing?

With all due respect, you're arguing with crazy people.

 

[Dr.3D]

Held the door for what I thought was a lady, found out she was a feminist when she said, she didn't appreciate my holding the door for her.

Later that day, I was going through another door and she was right behind me. I decided to let the door hit her in the face, then was told by some fellow that I wasn't a gentleman. Go figure....

 

[Origanalist]

Held the door for what I thought was a lady, found out she was a feminist when she said, she didn't appreciate my holding the door for her.

Later that day, I was going through another door and she was right behind me. I decided to let the door hit her in the face, then was told by some fellow that I wasn't a gentleman. Go figure....

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dr.3D again.

Lol, ya can't win.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Some of us still appreciate it when a gentleman holds the door open. Please keep doing that.

 

[CaptUSA]

I got into it a little with a few rabid feminists today, in which they advocated for Equal Work for Equal Pay.

They said that it was a violation of their Liberty to be discriminated against by not being guaranteed equal wages to men.

I first attempted to point out the "myth" of the wage gap. They were unconvinced. Whatever...

So I explained the following concepts:

Positive Rights vs Negative Rights

Freedom of Association

Freedom of Contract

Property Rights

The parable from Jesus about the farmer, workers, and the wages.

The Free Market

Social Change versus Government Coercion


They were absolutely opposed to all of the above because:

It only works in theory. Since Men are in power, they desire to keep power, so they will never voluntarily treat people fairly. Then then went on to explain how MLK was only successful via government action.

I countered with removing the power of government to treat people unfairly, and I took the Goldwater Stance in the CRA.


To make a long argument short. I remained calm and explained principle, they got emotional and tried to shame me. How would you deal with someone who sees rights as a "group" thing instead of an "individual" thing?

Depends... How good was the sandwich?

 

[Origanalist]

Some of us still appreciate it when a gentleman holds the door open. Please keep doing that.

It really is a crap shoot. Usually the response is positive but I have received my fair share of dirty looks and angry stares.

 

[euphemia]

I am a person. Any act of kindness will be accepted and appreciated. Kindness is not a microaggression.

 

[Dr.3D]

Some of us still appreciate it when a gentleman holds the door open. Please keep doing that.

Well, even if there is a man behind me, I'll usually hold the door (if I notice he is there), it's the polite thing to do.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I got into it a little with a few rabid feminists today, in which they advocated for Equal Work for Equal Pay.

They said that it was a violation of their Liberty to be discriminated against by not being guaranteed equal wages to men.

I first attempted to point out the "myth" of the wage gap. They were unconvinced. Whatever...

There is no such thing as true equality. There is only institutionalized equality. Which is what your feminist friends are arguing for. Some people are just naturally better at things than others. I suspect that it has always been this way. Some simply refuse to accept that this is the case in the real world. But I imagine everyone here knows that. We spend so much time preaching to the choir around here. Is what it is, I guess.

Heh. It is odd, though, although it is becoming a popular trend, in that cultural Marxist ideology is popularly presented under the disguise of fighting for liberty like you saw there with your feminist friends.

I wouldn't have bothered with the old wage gap debate. End of the day there is only institutionalized equality. And, of course, a fundamental understanding of this fact stimulates broader, more meaningful, dialogue. As it is, one of the fundamental principles of liberty is that Individuals or groups of Individuals should be and are free to organize so long as it doesn't prohibit other Individuals or groups of Individuals from equally doing the same. In that regard, libertarianism does technically permit for socialism. But it must be understood by your feminist friends that they are, in fact, promoting Socialism/Cultural Marxism. Collectivism.

 

[cajuncocoa]

It really is a crap shoot. Usually the response is positive but I have received my fair share of dirty looks and angry stares.

I know. I've seen some women do that. It's really rude. We're not all that way.

Well, even if there is a man behind me, I'll usually hold the door (if I notice he is there), it's the polite thing to do.

I agree! I would do the same.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Never engage the enemy or debate the enemy, only expose them. That's one of the best lessons you can learn from the John Birch Society.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Eh, why bother? You said they got emotional and tried to shame you. That's all they can do.

Feminism is not about bringing down men. It is about bringing down other women. Women are competitive with one another, especially with men. They do all kinds of things to attract a mate, just like men and just like the animal kingdom. They wear perfume, dress up, do their hair, flirt, etc. Some women do this better than other women. The ones who are better at it get the better men. The ones who are not so good end up on sour grapes.

Look up the woman named Debrahlee Lorenzano. She was the Latin women fired from Citibank for dressing too provocatively. "Feminists" claim Lorenzano's problem was with the men, but it was really with the women. She was first targeted by the branch manager and assistant branch manager, both of whom were very likely women. They're the ones who had a problem with Lorenzano's dress, not the men. Latin women dress this way in their home countries, while American women look like portly slobs in their spandex. The branch managers were simply and likely exhibiting the usual competitive jealousy of girls.

The women who complain about this so-called "pay gap" are the ones who failed to get a well-to-do man. They're jealous because they're working while the better competing girls are sitting pretty.

I have observed this same kind of behavior over the years. It's not men who have problem with the employee who is a looker; it's the women. "Feminists" take this all over society, which is why they hate things like beauty pageants and cheerleaders.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Then then went on to explain how MLK was only successful via government action.

MLK succeeded in accepting government benefits for the black man in exchange for ceasing his agitation. I wouldn't describe being co-opted and paid off as success. Of course, no sense telling that to these women.

I think Malcolm X was correct in his "white devil" comments and steering clear of whitey. It's funny how MLK is viewed so heroically in schools, but Malcolm X is downplayed or even vilified.

 

[Suzanimal]

Held the door for what I thought was a lady, found out she was a feminist when she said, she didn't appreciate my holding the door for her.

Later that day, I was going through another door and she was right behind me. I decided to let the door hit her in the face, then was told by some fellow that I wasn't a gentleman. Go figure....

I hold the door for people - male and female. And when people hold doors for me, I look them in the eyes, smile, and say thank you. People like it, I usually get a smile back and a you're very welcome. You never know what kind of troubles a stranger has so I try to always err on the side being extra friendly. Plus, I like it when men hold doors for me.

 

[Danke]

I hold the door for people - male and female. And when people hold doors for me, I look them in the eyes, smile, and say thank you. People like it, I usually get a smile back and a you're very welcome. You never know what kind of troubles a stranger has so I try to always err on the side being extra friendly. Plus, I like it when men hold doors for me.

What about for zombies?