Feds raid Texas political meeting; fingerprint and photograph all attendees, seize phones

Why is fingerprinting so common in Texas? What's up with the support for it? It wasn't until this month that the policy requiring 10 prints to vote, get a government ID or DL stopped. You still have to have 2 of your prints entered into the criminal database to function in Texas. It seems so strange. Texas is the one state that banned regular DUI checkpoints, because they were a violation of the US Constitution, because DUI checkpoints assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent. Yet, if you want to function in society in Texas, it is assumed that you are guilty and you have to have a background check.
 
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Some might say it's actually the government that is simulating the legal process. The Constitution means what the Just Us system say it means.

The police state, bank bailouts and other forms of fascism, spying on everyone with impunity, endless war, unelected bureaucracies essentially writing law, asset forfeiture, property theft (yadda yadda yadda)--the courts sign off on all of it.

There is no justice in this country, and its citizens have no real rights anymore, and for anyone to believe otherwise or assert that its citizens can work within the (corrupt) system is a self-deluded fool or part of the system.
 
Beware of the "world court" part of the op article.

The disinfo formula today is 80% truth and 20% misdirection but the 20% is where the premise of the truth is obscured in order to lead one in the wrong direction.

A world court needs to approve of TX secession? Really?
 
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Keith and stuff said:
Why is fingerprinting so common in Texas? What's up with the support for it? It wasn't until this month that the policy requiring 10 prints to vote, get a government ID or DL stopped. You still have to have 2 of your prints entered into the criminal database to function in Texas. It seems so strange. Texas is the one state that banned regular DUI checkpoints, because they were a violation of the US Constitution, because DUI checkpoints assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent. Yet, if you want to function in society in Texas, it is assumed that you are guilty and you have to have a background check.
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IA doesn't have them either, the state Supreme Court ruled them unConstitutional (in the early 1980's, IIRC). That was why the recent operation in or near Des Moines caused a bit of an outcry, because it was done under some other pretense.
 
invisible said:
IA doesn't have them either, the state Supreme Court ruled them unConstitutional (in the early 1980's, IIRC). That was why the recent operation in or near Des Moines caused a bit of an outcry, because it was done under some other pretense.
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I meant that TX is the only state to ban DUI checkpoints for that specific reason - the US Constitution. There are a bunch of states that don't do DUI checkpoints. Still, checkpoints of some type happen in all 50 states. Heck, I remember when TX brilliantly got around it's no DUI checkpoint policy by going into hotel bars and arresting anyone that appeared drunk. http://www.wnd.com/2006/03/35378/
 
bxm042 said:
I take it the judge didnt appear, because he deems their government to be illegitimate, and then sent armed men on a mission to deny their government's claim on him.

Seems like a perfectly rational, reasonable thing to do.
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If we just got rid of the State, I can't see that ever happening again.
 
BRYAN, TX — Federal and local police forces raided a political meeting, taking unusual measures to document every attendee by taking fingerprints and photographs, and seizing every cell phone and all recording equipment in the meeting hall.

The raid took place on February 14, 2015, at VFW Post 4892 in Bryan, Texas. At 10:10 a.m., an “army of policing agencies with flashing emergency lights” showed up, shut down the meeting of “congenial and unimposing” Texans and forced them to hand over their private effects and biometric data.

The meeting was the monthly gathering of a group known as the Republic of Texas. Drawing participants from hundreds of miles away, the group shares a common vision of an independence Texan nation.

Full story: http://www.policestateusa.com/2015/republic-of-texas-raid/
 
I agree that was silly. But the Fed and local authority responce was over the top too.
 
Matt Collins said:
Because these guys were issuing summons to local area judges demanding they appear in front of their group.... totally asinine.
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So, one group of silly people in silly outfits issuing demands is "asinine".

But when the other group does it, it's "the law".

And the only real difference is that group B has a squad of heavily armed men, ready and willing to light your ass up for non compliance.
 
Anti Federalist said:
So, one group of silly people in silly outfits issuing demands is "asinine".

But when the other group does it, it's "the law".

And the only real difference is that group B has a squad of heavily armed men, ready and willing to light your ass up for non compliance.
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No, one is the legitimate government, the other is just a group of random people with zero power.

Just because a government is not illegitimate doesn't mean it can't abuse its power, such as it did in this instance.
 
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