Federal judge: Carrying a gun is reasonable suspicion of a crime

[green73]

While taking a walk one day, legally open carrying a firearm, Christopher Proescher was stopped by police, questioned and arrested. The local prosecutor, seeing the Mr. Proeshcer committed no crime dropped all charges. In response to the false arrest Proescher reasonably filed a lawsuit against the officers.

Fast forward to Federal judge William S. Duffey Jr. who made the inane decision that while the arresting officers were wrong in arresting Proescher (you know, because he didn’t break any laws) that carrying a pistol openly constitutes reasonable suspicion of a crime, which authorizes officers to detain the person who is carrying and as such the officers acted properly.

Allow me to rephrase: By exercising your legal right, you have forfeited your 4th Amendment Rights and as such will be subject to detention and false arrest with no recourse.

That is what Judge Duffey has ruled.

cont.
http://bulletsfirst.net/2013/11/03/...exercising-right-nullification-4th-amendment/

http://www.examiner.com/article/carrying-a-gun-is-now-reasonable-suspicion-of-a-crime

 

[ZENemy]

Viable solutions are impossible from within the system, because the system is the problem

 

[shane77m]

Next "Open carrying of a firearm is enough for an officer to determine his life is in danger and can use deadly force instead of first using non lethal means."

 

[TomtheTinker]

Disgusting slob elitist wil have their time.

 

[Tod]

If this is not overturned, then I will have lost the last remaining vestiges of faith in a peaceful resolution to the problem of tyranny.

 

[asurfaholic]

This is clearly a bad ruling. Moving forward, will this get appealed?

And

How to strip the judge of the position?

 

[Dr.3D]

Emmm... clearly, wearing a black robe is reasonable suspicion of a crime.

 

[kill the banks]

If this is not overturned, then I will have lost the last remaining vestiges of faith in a peaceful resolution to the problem of tyranny.

things are just getting to the point where you have to wonder ... I only hope behind the scenes the good guys luck out

http://scully13.wordpress.com/ men of dark intentions

 

[BuddyRey]

Doesn't this directly clash with prior Supreme Court rulings?

 

[ZENemy]

This is clearly a bad ruling. Moving forward, will this get appealed?

And

How to strip the judge of the position?

lol.

Sorry, I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the idea of justice coming from a higher court, or the judge being treated as if he did anything wrong and being stripped of his position.

The judge probably got a bonus.

 

[Cleaner44]

Next "Open carrying of a firearm is enough for an officer to determine his life is in danger and can use deadly force instead of first using non lethal means."

13 year old child shot and killed for open carrying a fake firearm.

 

[shane77m]

13 year old child shot and killed for open carrying a fake firearm.

Ahhh. Come on now. They did order him to drop the weapon first......

 

[chudrockz]

Now imagine someone open-carrying AND walking down the street with their toy poodle on a leash! Oh my Lord, terrorists!! You'd have CNN and Faux News going nuts with "alerts"!

 

[Christian Liberty]

If this is not overturned, then I will have lost the last remaining vestiges of faith in a peaceful resolution to the problem of tyranny.

Yep. I've given up on politics. Its useless. I'll just spend my time trying to teach people how evil the government they support is.

 

[shane77m]

Now imagine someone open-carrying AND walking down the street with their toy poodle on a leash! Oh my Lord, terrorists!! You'd have CNN and Faux News going nuts with "alerts"!

Or if you just happen to have on a Ron Paul shirt or cap. Instantly greased with no warnings.

Probably not a bad idea if you are going to open carry, to wear some type of body armor. The cops are more dangerous than the thugs.

 

[JK/SEA]

Yep. I've given up on politics. Its useless. I'll just spend my time trying to teach people how evil the government they support is.

don't do politics?...no worries...politics will do you.

 

[chudrockz]

Or if you just happen to have on a Ron Paul shirt or cap. Instantly greased with no warnings.

Probably not a bad idea if you are going to open carry, to wear some type of body armor. The cops are more dangerous than the thugs.

Isn't there some law against mundanes wearing body armor? Or was that just proposed? I may be getting confused with Minnesota state also, I think a proposal to ban it in state went down in flames awhile back.

 

[Christian Liberty]

don't do politics?...no worries...politics will do you.

I'm not saying don't, I'm just saying its not really useful. Ron Paul was mostly useless from a political perspective, yet he had huge success educationally. I think any who would follow him into politics should do what he did.

 

[shane77m]

Isn't there some law against mundanes wearing body armor? Or was that just proposed? I may be getting confused with Minnesota state also, I think a proposal to ban it in state went down in flames awhile back.

Wouldn't surprise me if there is. Could always get one of those bulletproof backpacks.

 

[buck000]

Soooo, LEOs openly carrying create reasonable suspicion of a crime occurring?

Wait, that sounds about right, in all too many cases...