Federal Government Out of School's Policies?

[rational thinker]

If we leave the schools to states, how will we able to ensure that Bible Belt states like Texas, Tennessee, Alabama, and etc. won't teach creationism as a science in science class?

 

[winston_blade]

If we leave the schools to states, how will we able to ensure that Bible Belt states like Texas, Tennessee, Alabama, and etc. won't teach creationism as a science in science class?

You won't. People in those states would vote on curriculum, or even better, those schools districts would. In fact, most of them probably would teach it, but as long as it isn't in my state, it wouldn't matter too much to me. That would be Texas's fight, not mine.

 

[familydog]

If we leave the schools to states, how will we able to ensure that Bible Belt states like Texas, Tennessee, Alabama, and etc. won't teach creationism as a science in science class?

You don't. Just like you wouldn't ensure that Texas children get as good of an education as Pennsylvania children. Like Ron Paul teaches, family, friends, local communities, and local organizations and churches are the best to solve our problems. Not Washington D.C. Let's not be afraid of giving power back to the people as our founders intended.

 

[Patriot123]

Well, they would have the right to. That is, if the education department was abolished and schools weren't controlled by any government, but rather the actual parents of the attending students. Then, anything could be taught as it would be constitutional. Schools now are obviously controlled by the federal and state government. But if schools were given over to the states as they should be as the federal government doesn't have the constitutional authority to regulate schools, obviously it would be unconstitutional at this point in time for schools to do so. So there would be no problems. A court would overrule any education on the bible and whatnot in public schools like they have in the past. That's all.

 

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

It's important to understand, for one, that "education" and "schooling" are not synonymous. A big part of my support for sweepingly privatized education is that it would, hopefully, loosen the stranglehold that this misguided push for four-year degrees has on our country. Alternatively, the market would dictate what it wants from people, whether it be 6 months, on-the-job training or four years of nose-in-book scholarly study, or anything in between or beyond. So if the bible belt residents decide that they want to send their kids to creationism schools, then they can have fun raising an entire generation of scientifically-destitute ingrates.

 

[rational thinker]

Wouldn't it be dangerous if public schools were allowed to teach creationism as scientific fact to children? Let's be honest here, there are many communities where the religious majority would be more than willing to go for that. How do we stop that? Why should we allow it in the first place?

 

[AutoDas]

You think it's dangerous for kids to learn creationism, but you completely overlook the cause of the problem. Government should not be indoctrinating children.

 

[Mach]

You won't. People in those states would vote on curriculum, or even better, those schools districts would. In fact, most of them probably would teach it, but as long as it isn't in my state, it wouldn't matter too much to me. That would be Texas's fight, not mine.

What he said......

 

[Sandra]

We learn it in church anyway. Physical science is taught in schools (and in most church schools).

 

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

Am I wrong in thinking that the dissolution of the department of education would mean an end to public education altogether?

 

[amy31416]

Wouldn't it be dangerous if public schools were allowed to teach creationism as scientific fact to children? Let's be honest here, there are many communities where the religious majority would be more than willing to go for that. How do we stop that? Why should we allow it in the first place?

Freedom often has both upsides and downsides. If Texas decides to teach only creationism in their schools, then that is their choice. The families there who do not agree with this will either move, homeschool or go with private schools.

It may take a few years, but Texas' ranking in science and mathematics will go down the toilet (if it isn't already there,) and it'll be obvious why.

Freedom doesn't always mean an ideal state.

 

[winston_blade]

Freedom doesn't always mean an ideal state.

Exactly. I think that statement is too often overlooked. Freedom doesn't ensure that things will be ideal, but it ensures that one may strive for the ideal however one decides to pursue it.

 

[clouds]

no. public education came first.

anyway. I don't think evolution or creationism really affects much of your science, anyway, except at a philosophical level, unless you're going into a field that is dependent on those theories.

 

[driller80545]

When I was growing up the schools taught evolution and we learned about creationism in bible school. I didn't particularly care about either subject at the time.

 

[Kraig]

Might as well have said:

"If we give people freedom how can we ensure they will all do the same thing?"

 

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

no. public education came first.

anyway. I don't think evolution or creationism really affects much of your science, anyway, except at a philosophical level, unless you're going into a field that is dependent on those theories.

Alright, seriously...what field of science could possibly be built on Creationism?

Prayer-acknowledgement statistics?

Command & Control Physics?

Mulletnomics?

 

[SeanEdwards]

I think it would be great if the bible belt states decided to raise a generation of uneducated bible-thumpers. It would just mean more opportunity for the rest of us.

 

[danberkeley]

Creationism? It's better than the government teaching our 3rd graders to have sex and giving them condoms. What makes you think the state would have your child's best interest in mind?

 

[danberkeley]

Alright, seriously...what field of science could possibly be built on Creationism?

Prayer-acknowledgement statistics?

Command & Control Physics?

Mulletnomics?

Read Thomas E. Woods' How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization

 

[SeanEdwards]

Read Thomas E. Woods' How the Catholic Church Built Western Civilization

I'm guessing that thesis of that book is that the Catholic Church built Western Civilization, by not succeeding at burning every scientist at the stake.