Fear and Loathing of Donald Trump

[MarkoH]

Trump’s supporters, according to the Ayn Rand Institute, are simpletons and fools, gullible, shallow and compliant. See
Fear and Loathing of Donald Trump

 

[CPUd]

 

[LibertyEagle]

Most Objectivists didn't like Ron Paul either.

 

[dannno]

Most Objectivists didn't like Ron Paul either.

Why?

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Why?

Generally, they are totalitarian warmongering statists who hate libertarians. If Ayn Rand had existed in the modern age, she would have stood with the neocons against Ron Paul.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Why?

From what I could gather, it was over foreign policy.

 

[hells_unicorn]

ARI (Ayn Rand Institute) is steeped in rapid militarism, and some of it is due to Ayn Rand's own bizarre views on the relationship between technological supremacy and morality. It was probably a side-effect of her experiences in the Soviet Union prior to immigrating to America, so it's understandable, but still horribly wrong on many levels. I think it was in "The Virtue Of Selfishness" and also in one of Rand's magazine issues (republished in "The Ayn Rand Reader") where she spoke of the right of technologically superior and more atheistic societies having the right to conquer and outright destroy less developed (she used the word "savage") nations.

Leonard Peikoff and his successor and former(?) IDF operative Yaron Brook have largely kept Ayn Rand's original views on foreign policy intact, whereas the schismatics that were ousted from ARI at various points have not and trend closer to Ron Paul's and Murray Rothbard's views on foreign policy. This is how you get people running around calling themselves Objectivists yet not supporting the Neocons on foreign policy.

Hmm, so now you have good things to say about Bush? I guess you didn't get the memo that he dropped out a while ago. lol

 

[dannno]

If Ayn Rand had existed in the modern age, she would have stood with the neocons against Ron Paul.

Would she have signed up for military service herself?

 

[hells_unicorn]

Would she have signed up for military service herself?

No, she would say her superior mind would be better utilized supporting others to do so. To be fair, she did not support America involvement in Vietnam, Korea, or even the second World War if I remember correctly, but the reasons for it were very different for that of most people here, and probably a bit closer to that of Donald Trump. She viewed our involvement in all of said wars as being altruistic (she was right to an extent in that humanitarian arguments were utilized by supporters of all of them), and thus viewed them as being morally evil.

 

[Rad]

I hate to give white nats traffic but here we go:
"The Sociology of the Ayn Rand Cult By Murray N. Rothbard"
https://www.lewrockwell.com/1970/01/murray-n-rothbard/understanding-ayn-randianism/

 

[jkob]

Objectionists hate everybody that isn't an Objectionist, it's basically a cult

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

I think Atlas Shrugged could be viewed as an astute political farce - not unlike this election - and the culty nature of Randianism as a running 60s style performance art joke.

Things aren't always what they seem - it requires you to think about them. A lot of people who claim to be Randian Objectivists probably aren't - but what is true is true in itself or not - it doesn't require you to join a club.

For the record, I consider myself a non-Randian objectivist. She didn't invent the term. And I'm currently reading two of her books - fountainhead and objectivist epistemology.

Fyi - I hope I don't mess with the balance of things by posting an unrelated youtube: