FDA Declares Form of Vitamin B6 a Drug, Effectively Banning Pyridoxamine from Dietary

[torchbearer]

Just wait until they figure out the powers of vitamin D.
We really need government to regulate all substances.

 

[tmosley]

Umm, it's just some two-bit pharmaceutical company petitioning. I don't see anywhere saying that the FDA has approved their request, nor do I see any reason that they would approve it. If you don't like it, there is a comments section on the regulations.gov website that was linked above. If there are a lot of negative comments on there, you can be assured that they won't approve it (I doubt if they would anyways, the uproar would be deafening).

 

[M House]

Tmosley is there any food that's naturally high in vitamin B6? I'm kinda wondering what's the deal with a patentable vitamin at all?

 

[The_Orlonater]

How heartening.

 

[tmosley]

Tmosley is there any food that's naturally high in vitamin B6? I'm kinda wondering what's the deal with a patentable vitamin at all?

I don't know much about nutrition, honestly. I work with a nutritionist, though, so I could ask him.

I don't see how they could patent it either. I can only guess that IF they did manage to patent it, it was merely a slip up by the patent office (not unheard of, but this is pretty obvious--they normally do a structure search for prior art). I highly doubt if it would stand up in court if challenged.

The nasty part is that such regulation, if passed (again, highly unlikely) would stand on its own, even if the patent were shot down at a later date.

I tried to comment on that form the other day, but I can't seem to (I couldn't download the report either, until someone posted a direct link). I would suggest everyone here leave a comment noting that the compound they are marketing is just B6, and that it is outrageous that they would try to ban it. I will try to leave a comment while at work tomorrow...

 

[Pepsi]

Maybe we should start an End the FDA movement like End the Fed one.

 

[Carson]

I think B-6 is a vitamin I did some research with to see if it would keep Mosquito's away.

I was certain that if I was camping and being attacked that within an hour of taking a one-a-day that contained B-6 and B-12 the biting would taper off to very few bites or none.

In San Diego we had problems with fleas. Out of a group of, I would guess, two hundred people one person would have thirty our forty little scabs on their legs from flea bites. If those people started taking B-6 or B-12, I can't remember for sure whether 6 or 12, the biting would cease and the scabbing would disappear.

So it seems to me that some people can become deficient in that vitamin and to supplement it works like a miracle.

Some time if your being bit by fleas or mosquito's give a vitamin a try. Make sure it contains the B-6 and B-12 on the label.

P.S. Many other researchers have seemed to have disproved the effectiveness of B-6 or B-12 for the prevention of mosquito bites. I think they may need to look at the small percentage of those people deficient or at a time of deficiency.

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I've heard that the New World Order/ United Nations/ European Union is for baning vitamin supplements for some reason.

http://www.isil.org/towards-liberty/vitamin-ban.html

http://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/press/euromyths/myth92_en.htm

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Also another vitamin that shows promise is Vitamin C for Scurvy.

Lots of people think that scurvy has been all but eliminated. In the case of full blown scurvy, that may be the case. Some of us feel that it is still a very wide spread disease in its early stages.

When you read about people with full blown cases from the old tales of the sea it took years before the sailors had their teeth fall out or have sores on their arms that would not heal. Years before they had gotten to that point they may have noticed one of the early signs, like bleeding gums. If you ever notice your gums bleeding when you brush your teeth try taking a One-a-Day vitamin that has Vitamin C. It could help you restore your health before it gets any worse.



I'm going to repeat the last part in Pirate for those of you of the sea;


Also another vitamin that shows promise be Vitamin C fer Scurvy.

Lots o' swabbies think that scurvy be all but eliminated. In th' case o' full blown scurvy, that may be th' case. Some o' us feel that 'tis still a very wide spread disease in its early stages.

When ye read about swabbies wi' full blown cases from th' old tales o' th' sea 't tookst voyages before th' jacks had the'r teeth fall ou' or be havin' sores on the'r arms that wouldna heal. Voyages before they had gotten t' that point they may be havin' noticed one o' th' early signs, like bleedin' gums. If ye erenotice yer gums bleedin' when ye brush yer teeth try takin' a One-a-Tide vitamin that has Vitamin C. 't could help ye restore yer health before 't gets any worse.

http://www.syddware.com/cgi-bin/pirate.pl

 

[juice797]

Patenting is a good way to ban things temporarily.

It just gives you the right to prosecute someone for selling something you have the patent to. If you don't want to use a patent, you don't have to.

Thus, if you have a competing product, you might take out a patent just to prevent the competition from selling the product which competes with your own. Like a vitamin.

Intellectual property is heavily debated among Austrian free marketers, who often view patents as a tool of monopoly, restrictive to liberty and progress.

 

[tmosley]

Patenting is a good way to ban things temporarily.

It just gives you the right to prosecute someone for selling something you have the patent to. If you don't want to use a patent, you don't have to.

Thus, if you have a competing product, you might take out a patent just to prevent the competition from selling the product which competes with your own. Like a vitamin.

Intellectual property is heavily debated among Austrian free marketers, who often view patents as a tool of monopoly, restrictive to liberty and progress.

It should be noted that they are talking about banning it from supplements, not simply patenting it. That is an important distinction.

 

[Bettawrekonize]

Here is information on it on Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyridoxamine

I believe there are three naturally occurring forms of vitamin B6 and this is one of them (ie: you can find it in the foods you eat).

Note that FDA has banned not vitamin B6, but a specific and not so common form of this vitamin called chemically Pyridoxamine.

Not so true. It's a quite common form of vitamin B6.

There exists a grandfathering clause for ingredients that have been on the market for more than 15 years, but CRN said the way this list functioned “was not agreed upon”.

This 15-year period coincides with the enactment of the 1994 Dietary Supplements and Health Education Act (DSHEA), around which time much evidence was presented supporting ingredients such as pyridoxamine dihydrochloride.

“We are disappointed with FDA’s response to the recent citizen petition involving pyridoxamine that apparently views as inadequate the evidence presented by the industry, including CRN, of the previous marketing of pyridoxamine, even prior to the passage of DSHEA,” said CRN vice president of scientific and regulatory affairs, Andrew Shao PhD.

“FDA’s decision suggests that companies need to produce even more extensive evidence supporting an ingredient’s marketing as a dietary supplement, including catalog and business records from more than 15 years ago.”

Companies had to ensure that they could “substantiate that an ingredient has in fact previously been marketed as a dietary supplement.”

In a previous letter to the FDA, dated September 14, 2005, the CRN’s senior vice president of scientific and international affairs, John Hathcock, wrote that:

“Pyridoxamine is unequivocally a dietary ingredient because it is one of the three primary natural forms of vitamin B6, and it is one of the two predominant forms in animal products used as human foods.”

He noted pyridoxamine was on a CRN “gold list” of grandfathered ingredients that its marketing as a dietary ingredient was “entirely consistent with the long history of the science of this form of vitamin B6.”

http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/Regulation/FDA-finds-vitamin-B6-form-not-legal-in-supplements

Also found these links interesting

http://www.prisonplanet.com/fda-dec...ng-pyridoxamine-from-dietary-supplements.html

http://www.anhcampaign.org/news/hand-pharma—us-citizens-have-your-say

http://www.naturalnews.com/023514.html

http://dprogram.net/2009/02/13/fda-...anning-pyridoxamine-from-dietary-supplements/

 

[Bettawrekonize]

BTW, everyone here has excellent posts. Thanks for your thoughts.