FCC approves plan to allow for paid priority on Internet

[PRB]

So can anyone tell me why ISP are not charging consumers based on the amount of data they use?

Because prior to legal streaming, there was little one could do with broadband that's legal.

Prior to broadband, speed was enough to limit a person's usage.

Today, we have both broadband and lots of legal ways to exploit bandwidth, so ISPs are starting to notice it's time to rethink pricing.

Netflix isn't the driver of the traffic, the consumers are.

they both are.

It just seems so backwards to charge the companies as opposed the consumers trying to access the site.

Good news : they can double dip! there's no way, short of laws, that will stop them from charging both content providers and end users (not to mention they can be hard to distinguish). this is no different than cellphone companies charging you for talking, regardless of whether you made the call or are answering it.

My plan would involve a fixed charge for infrastructure and then a variable charge depending how much you download.

Which is basically a data cap, pre-paid, with option to burst.

 

[idiom]

The limiting factor is last mile access. The libertarian solution is for a company to build out last mile access then re-sell it to all-comers. This breaks the geographic monopolies.

The practical government solution is to build tonnes of little companies that are chartered in a similar fashion to provide last-mile access to any company that wants it at the same rate. We have just started this process in New Zealand and it looks like it will be very effective.

When you have 50 different ISP's then you won't get retarded consumer hurting behavior.

The problem in America is Municipalities getting kickbacks from Monopolies to keep last mile competitors out.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Related:

Ted Cruz bill would ban 'FCC's latest adventure in net neutrality'

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, wants Congress to ban "the FCC's latest adventure in 'net neutrality,' " saying the proposed changes to Internet regulations would damage the industry.

"A five-member panel at the FCC should not be dictating how Internet services will be provided to millions of Americans," Cruz said in a Wednesday afternoon statement. "I will be introducing legislation that would remove the claimed authority for the FCC to take such actions, specifically the Commission's nebulous Sec. 706 authority. More than $1 trillion has already been invested in broadband infrastructure, which has led to an explosion of new content, applications, and Internet accessibility. Congress, not an unelected commission, should take the lead on modernizing our telecommunications laws. The FCC should not endanger future investments by stifling growth in the online sector, which remains a much-needed bright spot in our struggling economy."

Sen. Al Franken, D-Minn., has also denounced the proposed rules unveiled by FCC chairman Tom Wheeler. "The latest proposed rules by Wheeler -- what he's really talking about is creating a fast lane where people can pay to have their content treated unequally," he told Time. "That's not net neutrality. That's pay for play. That's antithetical to net neutrality."
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More:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/ted-c...t-adventure-in-net-neutrality/article/2548441

 

[Brian4Liberty]

if this guy doesn't get his way, he can call his enemies "government"

Some of us are pointing out the Orwellian future where a fascist private/public corporatist partnership controls all information. No one here wants more government, but we see the writing on the wall.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Today, we have both broadband and lots of legal ways to exploit bandwidth, so ISPs are starting to notice it's time to rethink pricing.
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Which is basically a data cap, pre-paid, with option to burst.

So what's your vested interest? Are you working at a start-up that wants to utilize bandwidth and resell? I'm all for that, and use that for cell phone service right now. I may research that for home internet.

 

[PRB]

So what's your vested interest? Are you working at a start-up that wants to utilize bandwidth and resell? I'm all for that, and use that for cell phone service right now. I may research that for home internet.

No vested interest.

 

[PRB]

The limiting factor is last mile access. The libertarian solution is for a company to build out last mile access then re-sell it to all-comers. This breaks the geographic monopolies.

The practical government solution is to build tonnes of little companies that are chartered in a similar fashion to provide last-mile access to any company that wants it at the same rate. We have just started this process in New Zealand and it looks like it will be very effective.

When you have 50 different ISP's then you won't get retarded consumer hurting behavior.

The problem in America is Municipalities getting kickbacks from Monopolies to keep last mile competitors out.

Internet access is not a right. So while it's true that last mile is a regional monopoly, there is no right to equal access or open competition.

 

[Matt Collins]

 

[Mr Tansill]

I'm not sure how old some of those videos are, but I feel like I should provide an update:

It's now well documented that ISPs have throttled and restricted access to their competitor's content, and without intervention on behalf of consumers, this practice was likely to continue and get worse over time. The claim asking in one video "where is the fire" (implying there is no issue) is currently invalid - Netflix was already held hostage by an ISP and was forced to pay a fee that restored their previous data rate.

The claim made at the end of the first video that the government is the one "micromanaging" the internet is particularly funny. The government seeks to implement one rule: "no corporation can restrict the flow of data over the internet based on the content of the data." The broadband providers would be the ones who would implement an endless slew of controls and restrictions against their competitor's content. Which of those seems more like "micromanagement?" LOL.

I've posted this video elsewhere, but I'll put it in this thread because I think it does a good job distilling the issue in a very easy to comprehend way: