FBI 'raided' Mar-a-Lago

[ClaytonB]

Well, whatever. By D.C. you mean bureaucrats and welfare recipients. I should have guessed. I was thinking of the people giving the orders. I suppose they can find better places than a swamp to live, so fair enough.

DC is some kind of weird hyper-organism. So, it's both those living on bureaucrat-welfare, and their bosses, whether the visible bosses or the bosses hiding deep in the Swamp.

You win. Here. . Now tell me why pissing off the various employed and unemployed Karens on the D.C. voting rolls should matter to me. It's not like that's a challenge. It doesn't take Donald Trump to do it.

If it doesn't matter to you, it doesn't matter to you.

I don't think it's just anger, in fact, I think it's mostly fear. Clearly, Trump's "You're Fired"-image is something that was prepared for this possibility. From interviews, we know that Trump had contemplated the possibility of running for POTUS, way back. So, his image is no accident and it is surely meant to strike fear into the hearts of the DC bureaucracy. And fear can be used as a galvanizing/unifying tool as much as a discoordinating/scattering tool. I have already explained to you that I view all dimensions of the situation. Whether it's good or bad that DC is afraid of Trump is a separate question from the fact (yes, fact!) that one of the single most important reason that Trump's base supports him with the fervor that it does, is that Trump makes DC afraid/angry.

Because everyone who doesn't spit acid whenever they see the name "Trump" seems to you to be a Trumper, you keep trying to typecast me as some kind of mindless Trumper. As though I am incapable of objectively understanding why Trump's base supports him, without also blindly supporting him in exactly the same way.

So, I made this for you, and I'll re-post as often as necessary until you get it:

 

[Sonny Tufts]

I'm not going to debate Federal codes with Random Internet Person.

Your response #447 noted, "But God forbid he should possess any documents for which he (still) has lifetime clearance", as if any such clearance allows him to possess the documents. The fact is, since Trump was never formally granted a security clearance in the first place and since his access to classified material was only the result of being elected to a position requiring such access, it's not correct to say that he has lifetime clearance.

Look at it this way: if he was trusted to have clearance only because he was elected, then he lost that trust when he wasn't reelected.

 

[acptulsa]

Because everyone who doesn't spit acid whenever they see the name "Trump" seems to you to be a Trumper, you keep trying to typecast me as some kind of mindless Trumper. As though I am incapable of objectively understanding why Trump's base supports him, without also blindly supporting him in exactly the same way.

I mentioned Trump once, to say there are other ways besides him of pissing off Karens. And here you are trying to cause seizures in any epileptics we may have among us, and blaming me for it.

I didn't call you a Trumper. Not even once. Settle down and stop deflecting. I accused you of being all caught up in a soap opera. Care to stop posting stupid memes long enough to address that?

 

[Invisible Man]

I'm not confusing those two. TS information is regulated by a bunch of laws that prevent all forms of disclosure, whether now or later, whether from documents or from memory, and so on. Those regulations are separate from the clearance-status itself. It is the TS-clearance status that most Federal officials hold for life. That wouldn't give a Trump admin official access to Biden admin SCI info because those are entirely separate programs. But if a Biden admin official wants to read in a Trump admin official (or any former President's administration), they already hold TS clearance and it's just a matter of reading them in. That is my understanding, and no I'm not going to go dig up my references because it's been a few years since I watched the interview where I learned about this and I can't remember how to find the interview. I only recall this important detail from it.

I don't have knowledge to comment on that. It may be true.

But it can't be the case that enduring authority to declassify materials would come with that clearance.

If it is a fact that nothing Trump had in his house was classified and he knows this because he personally declassified it when he was president, then he should just come right out and say publicly what he remembers from these formerly classified materials that he wanted to get released to the public, personally declassified, and brought with him to his house for this purpose, while also for some reason never actually publicizing any of it. Does he want us to know about it or not? He can't have it both ways and say it's not classified but it's a secret.

Now, if he did that, one of two things would be the case. Either it would be proven true that none of the documents Trump had were classified as of his leaving office, and any that formerly had been classified no longer were classified, which could be confirmed by the National Declassification Center which would have gotten Trump's declassification orders; or it would be proven that he did possess documents that still were classified and that no records of their having been declassified could be produced either by the National Declassification Center or by Trump himself, in which case he might continue to claim that he declassified them but just kept that declassification a secret that only he knew, to which the question could then be asked, "And how's that working out for you?"

If Trump really wanted some documents to be declassified, he would have taken the declassification of them seriously enough not to be in this situation. And the documents would be public.

 

[ClaytonB]

I don't have knowledge to comment on that. It may be true.

But it can't be the case that enduring authority to declassify materials would come with that clearance.

If it is a fact that nothing Trump had in his house was classified and he knows this because he personally declassified it when he was president, then he should just come right out and say publicly what he remembers from these formerly classified materials that he wanted to get released to the public, personally declassified, and brought with him to his house for this purpose, while also for some reason never actually publicizing any of it. Does he want us to know about it or not? He can't have it both ways and say it's not classified but it's a secret.

Now, if he did that, one of two things would be the case. Either it would be proven true that none of the documents Trump had were classified as of his leaving office, and any that formerly had been classified no longer were classified, which could be confirmed by the National Declassification Center which would have gotten Trump's declassification orders; or it would be proven that he did possess documents that still were classified and that no records of their having been declassified could be produced either by the National Declassification Center or by Trump himself, in which case he might continue to claim that he declassified them but just kept that declassification a secret that only he knew, to which the question could then be asked, "And how's that working out for you?"

If Trump really wanted some documents to be declassified, he would have taken the declassification of them seriously enough not to be in this situation. And the documents would be public.

The irony is that, in this thread, I am simultaneously being accused of "being all caught up in a soap opera" while that's literally what you guys are: all caught up in a soap opera. Political theater doesn't come any more obvious than the Mar-a-Lago raid. The Dem/RINO/neocons have calculated that this works to their advantage if they can somehow use some weird Federal legal power to lock Trump out of the 2024 race by force. Maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong. The Clown World news headlines will tell us eventually. But Mar-a-Lago will likely turn out to be the greatest political blunder the Left has ever made if they fail to lock Trump out of the 2024 race on some weird legal pretext. If that bunches up your TDS panties, I'm sorry. Reality is reality, whether you can process it objectively, or not...

 

[acptulsa]

The Dem/RINO/neocons have calculated that this works to their advantage if they can somehow use some weird Federal legal power to lock Trump out of the 2024 race by force. Maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong. The Clown World news headlines will tell us eventually. But Mar-a-Lago will likely turn out to be the greatest political blunder the Left has ever made if they fail to lock Trump out of the 2024 race on some weird legal pretext.

Yes. See, that's the disconnect here. The GOP is just a pawn in their game.

So is the Democratic Party.

As long as you think they care more about the black pawn than the white pawn, you'll never be able to see the forest for the trees.

They don't any more care if the left loses than if the right loses. The proof is 2016. Indeed, I think it's safe to say they wanted very much for Trump to win, because if the wicked witch of the west had tried to print that much money and give it to Big Pharma, half the population would have let out a howl that would have awakened Biden's voters early.

Can you calmly wrap your head around that thought, Grasshopper?

The Left, you say. That sounds to me like you're still thinking of welfare queens and mid-level bureaucrats. If you think Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates cares about either one, think twice. Think instead who would benefit most from nationwide martial law.

The media doesn't coddle Biden and trash Trump because Klaus Schwab prefers one to the other. The media does that because many Democrats love to be told what to think, and love to feel like they're not disenfranchised. And because many Republicans love to feel rebellious.

 

[PAF]

Yes. See, that's the disconnect here. The GOP is just a pawn in their game.

So is the Democratic Party.

As long as you think they care more about the black pawn than the white pawn, you'll never be able to see the forest for the trees.

They don't any more care if the left loses than if the right loses. The proof is 2016. Indeed, I think it's safe to say they wanted very much for Trump to win, because if the wicked witch of the west had tried to print that much money and give it to Big Pharma, half the population would have let out a howl that would have awakened Biden's voters early.

Can you calmly wrap your head around that thought, Grasshopper?

The Left, you say. That sounds to me like you're still thinking of welfare queens and mid-level bureaucrats. If you think Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates cares about either one, think twice. Think instead who would benefit most from nationwide martial law.

The media doesn't coddle Biden and trash Trump because Klaus Schwab prefers one to the other. The media does that because many Democrats love to be told what to think, and love to feel like they're not disenfranchised. And because many Republicans love to feel rebellious.

Spreading +Rep

 

[ClaytonB]

Yes. See, that's the disconnect here. The GOP is just a pawn in their game.

So is the Democratic Party.

Check out my latest post in the "songs guaranteed to piss SOMEBODY off" thread.

As long as you think they care more about the black pawn than the white pawn, you'll never be able to see the forest for the trees.

Agreed.

Checking over my shoulder to see if that was addressed to somebody to whom it's actually relevant...

They don't any more care if the left loses than if the right loses.

Broadly speaking, yes. There is an asymmetry between left and right, but it's not what Rs/Ds think. It's more of the choice between tyranny through a Big Brother nanny-state (far right), or tyranny through Mad Max chaos (far left).

You can have red-colored tyranny or blue-colored tyranny but, either way, tyranny is the only item on the menu.

The proof is 2016. Indeed, I think it's safe to say they wanted very much for Trump to win, because if the wicked witch of the west had tried to print that much money and give it to Big Pharma, half the population would have let out a howl that would have awakened Biden's voters early.

Can you calmly wrap your head around that thought, Grasshopper?

*clap* *clap* *clap*

Very impressive. But the master did not teach you everything. Something else is happening in the world right now, something that is as far outside the Deep State's calculus, as that is outside Joe Sixpack's political calculus. I've tried raising your awareness to this possibility in the past, and I'll continue to wave the flag for those lurkers who are paying attention. This is not business-as-usual. It's not even the disruption of business-as-usual that the Schwabites have carefully plotted for god-only-knows how long. It's some other kind of thing that can't be explained in words. And the only way to properly understand it is through the spiritual lens -- Scripture.

Trump may be controlled opp. But it's not about that anymore. Something more is going on. You don't have to go full Trump-tard and start believing Trump is the Messiah (or Antichrist) in order to perceive the possibility that something more is going on.

The Left, you say. That sounds to me like you're still thinking of welfare queens and mid-level bureaucrats. If you think Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates cares about either one, think twice. Think instead who would benefit most from nationwide martial law.

DC is the organs, muscles, bones and sinews of the Deep State. So yes, the DS cares about DC a lot. Schwab and Gates are not the heart of the DS or even close to it. They are frontmen, which is obvious from the simple fact that we know their names.

 

[Snowball]

I don't have knowledge to comment on that. It may be true.

But it can't be the case that enduring authority to declassify materials would come with that clearance.

If it is a fact that nothing Trump had in his house was classified and he knows this because he personally declassified it when he was president, then he should just come right out and say publicly what he remembers from these formerly classified materials that he wanted to get released to the public, personally declassified, and brought with him to his house for this purpose, while also for some reason never actually publicizing any of it. Does he want us to know about it or not? He can't have it both ways and say it's not classified but it's a secret.

Now, if he did that, one of two things would be the case. Either it would be proven true that none of the documents Trump had were classified as of his leaving office, and any that formerly had been classified no longer were classified, which could be confirmed by the National Declassification Center which would have gotten Trump's declassification orders; or it would be proven that he did possess documents that still were classified and that no records of their having been declassified could be produced either by the National Declassification Center or by Trump himself, in which case he might continue to claim that he declassified them but just kept that declassification a secret that only he knew, to which the question could then be asked, "And how's that working out for you?"

If Trump really wanted some documents to be declassified, he would have taken the declassification of them seriously enough not to be in this situation. And the documents would be public.

That's totally right, and he didn't do it with these; and his claim of having done it is denied by all his staff - it is another example of Trump making stuff up as he goes along. We're not going to find out the truth about any of this. The Feds won't let us. We really should stop following it because we're all being abused and insulted. Like little children, we're not ready for the big kid info, you see. Like peeping toms we're peering through the blinds trying to see what's going on in the bedroom. It's all rather disgusting and off-putting to any self-respecting, knowledgeable adult.

 

[acptulsa]

But Mar-a-Lago will likely turn out to be the greatest political blunder the Left has ever made if they fail to lock Trump out of the 2024 race on some weird legal pretext. If that bunches up your TDS panties, I'm sorry.

As long as you think they care more about the black pawn than the white pawn, you'll never be able to see the forest for the trees.

Agreed.

Checking over my shoulder to see if that was addressed to somebody to whom it's actually relevant...

That's isn't relevant to him, yet he talks about TDS.

Very impressive. But the master did not each you everything. Something else is happening in the world right now, something that is as far outside the Deep State's calculus...

He's changing the subject. Again.

Trump may be controlled opp.

Well, now. And if he is, regardless of what God's up to, this raid comes down to one of three things.

1. Trump went off the reservation. If that were true, that top secret stuff would have been proof that 9/11 was an inside job, and he would have released the kracken, not sat around waiting for them to come and take it.

2. Trump was holding blackmail material. In which case he's as swampy as anyone, he's just more ambitious than some (and not as bright as others, keeping it in the most obvious place).

3. Trump isn't the river, he's the dam. Meaning his job is to get "The Right" all stirred up with loyalty, then get himself screwed. This moves his fans to act, and acting gets them swatted. Which seems funny, considering only six-seven percent of them were voting for him out of the seventeen candidates in the primaries, before he squeaked out a small lead and Republicans turned into lemmings as usual jumped on the old bandwagon. But I'll be damned if they'll put up with a bunch of Democrats telling them who they can't nominate, whether they actually want to nominate him or not.

Got a Number Four I haven't thought of? I'm not asking you to guess at God's plan. There's a whole other subforum for that. What I'm saying is, if "Trump may be controlled opp" is not TDS on your part, then why did the Deep State stage this scene?

Can you snatch that pebble from my hand, Grasshopper? Or can you only imitate Swardsmythe, accuse me of TDS, repeat yourself and change the subject?

 

[TheTexan]

Here's one. https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-martin-2031#N196673

Nope, that dude was eventually charged with 18 USC 793, but the raid on his home was for 18 USC 641 (theft) and 18 USC 1924 (unauthorized removal)

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/do...ent-contractor-harold-thomas-martin-iii/2174/

 

[ClaytonB]

But Mar-a-Lago will likely turn out to be the greatest political blunder the Left has ever made if they fail to lock Trump out of the 2024 race on some weird legal pretext. If that bunches up your TDS panties, I'm sorry.

As long as you think they care more about the black pawn than the white pawn, you'll never be able to see the forest for the trees.

Checking over my shoulder to see if that was addressed to somebody to whom it's actually relevant...

That's isn't relevant to him, yet he talks about TDS.

I don't think there's much use in you and I talking about Trump. You have some weird preconceptions about the subject and I have better things to do with my time than spend it trying to deconstruct the weird mental straitjacket that you look at the world from.

Extending the pawn metaphor, no game lasts forever, not even chess. At some point, the endgame is reached. The idea that the rules just somehow magically continue on as they always were, is ridiculous. That's exactly how the Beast NWO / Deep State / Schwabites want us to look at the world. As though "they won" and now we have to "accept our fate", etc. Well sorry, Klausie, but that's not how reality works. The Beast NWO maniacs have correctly perceived that the State is the pinnacle of power within the material world, and they have seized control of it. Now, they want to induce all of humanity to bow down and worship their golden statue. Hell no! Whether you like it or not, whether you think that MAGA-heads are duped or not, the fact is that that is how they perceive Trump! Trump is their "hell no!" to Klaussie and Krew. And perhaps you're right -- perhaps Klaussie and Krew have full purchase on Trump and the MAGA-masses are just sheep being led to the slaughter. But that's just Square A where I started, Tiger, way back in 2016. I paid zero attention to Trump and the election because, in my view at that time, he was obviously just "the other puppet". I've already explained the reasons my view on that has shifted over time. But I don't think in the way that most people do. I'm capable of holding multiple conflicting beliefs in hypothetical tension, without the overwhelming psychological need to resolve that tension and "decide". Depending on events, it is possible that I may revert to my original 2016 assessment of Trump. But for now, the facts as best as I can see them are not consistent with that. Trump is not simply just another Beast NWO pawn. Something else is going on.

Please don't make me repost the GIF. Even I hate it.

He's changing the subject. Again.

You can't dance on the edge of a cliff with your back to it, and then complain when I point out that there is nothing but empty air behind you. Yes, the reality in the direction that you are not looking is nothing like the reality in the direction you are looking. Pointing it out is not "changing the subject", it is simply noting that you're ignoring basically half of the relevant reality. Trump and the US 2022 cannot be viewed solely through the lens of materialism. Even normies are starting to realize that something truly does not add up here. Even the sheep are starting to catch fleeting glimpses of the wolf's outline in their peripheral vision. Klaussie and the rest of the bug-eaters in the Beast NWO aren't prepared for the fight they've picked. I'm not saying that based on headlines, I'm informing you (first-hand) that it's the case. They cannot even begin to imagine what is coming for them. Trump should be the least of their worries.

Well, now. And if he is, regardless of what God's up to, this raid comes down to one of three things.

1. Trump went off the reservation. If that were true, that top secret stuff would have been proof that 9/11 was an inside job, and he would have released the kracken, not sat around waiting for them to come and take it.

Why do you have such difficulty entertaining the possibility that Trump went off the reservation a long time ago? Why is Trump definitely "just a pawn" in 2016 but somehow in 2022 he might have "gone off the reservation"??

2. Trump was holding blackmail material. In which case he's as swampy as anyone, he's just more ambitious than some.

I don't know Trump's heart, only God does. He might be the most misunderstood saint, or he might be the worst demon, and I would not know the difference. But one verse that always pops into my head when contemplating Trump is Ezekiel 7:24, "I will bring the most wicked of nations to take possession of their houses. I will put an end to the pride of the mighty, and their sanctuaries will be desecrated..." Without getting distracted with apocalyptic details, the point of the verse is that God's judgment comes in the following form: a wickedness that is just way more competent (ambitious) than the wicked whom God is judging. Perhaps Trump is just better at the world domination game than Klaussie and he's just giving Klaus a royal spanking. That's also a possibility.

3. Trump isn't the river, he's the dam. Meaning his job is to get "The Right" all stirred up with loyalty, then get himself screwed. This moves his fans to act, and acting gets them swatted.

Well I'm pretty much convinced that probably happened at Jan 6. But I'm not so sure that makes Trump the bad guy. For all her histrionics, Hillary is right that there are evil right-wingers who would love to have an Apocalypse so they can transform into Danny McBride in This Is The End. That's a Hard-To-Swallow-Pill for a lot of RPFers, but it's the cold hard truth. If we are about to flush out a global pedophile/pedovore network, I don't want human-nitroglycerin as part of the movement. That's just an opportunity for the devil to detonate us from within.

I'm not asking you to guess at God's plan.

I never guess. And if I do, I say it out loud.

NEVER

What I'm saying is, if "Trump may be controlled opp" is not TDS on your part, then why did the Deep State stage this scene?

Which scene? I don't understand your question.

Can you snatch that pebble from my hand, Grasshopper? Or can you only imitate Swardsmythe, accuse me of TDS, repeat yourself and change the subject?

I'm serious, don't make me post the GIF. My name is clearly posted right next to every single post I write and I know you have enough reading-capability to read it and understand it. So do that.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Yes. See, that's the disconnect here. The GOP is just a pawn in their game.

So is the Democratic Party.

As long as you think they care more about the black pawn than the white pawn, you'll never be able to see the forest for the trees.

They don't any more care if the left loses than if the right loses. The proof is 2016. Indeed, I think it's safe to say they wanted very much for Trump to win, because if the wicked witch of the west had tried to print that much money and give it to Big Pharma, half the population would have let out a howl that would have awakened Biden's voters early.

Can you calmly wrap your head around that thought, Grasshopper?

The Left, you say. That sounds to me like you're still thinking of welfare queens and mid-level bureaucrats. If you think Klaus Schwab or Bill Gates cares about either one, think twice. Think instead who would benefit most from nationwide martial law.

The media doesn't coddle Biden and trash Trump because Klaus Schwab prefers one to the other. The media does that because many Democrats love to be told what to think, and love to feel like they're not disenfranchised. And because many Republicans love to feel rebellious.

The left is fairly entrenched in the bureaucratic deep state. I don't think they're going reverse all that and start over again on the right. My opinion, but, they've got a fairly solid structure when a good chunk of the GOP and 100% of the left thinks any talk of deep state is all just conspiracy theory talk. They've been building that structure for decades and even when the right holds power, the neolib/neocon bureaucrats remain in D.C. behind the scenes, mucking up whatever they can get away with. And finally, it seems like they're digging in. This push to label every opposing viewpoint as 'domestic terrorism' is wholly owned today by the left, and they're doubling down.

I say we just need to do a bit of sorting. There's still some neocon holdouts on the right that need to be sent packing back to the democratic party, or the newly formed shell/front party "Forward". Just get them out of the GOP i don't care where they go. Embrace the division and let the lines be drawn clearly, I say.

The problem is not that there are black pawns and white pawns, the problem is that everything is grey.

 

[acptulsa]

I don't think there's much use in you and I talking about Trump. You have some weird preconceptions about the subject and I have better things to do with my time than spend it trying to deconstruct the weird mental straitjacket that you look at the world from...

And perhaps you're right -- perhaps Klaussie and Krew have full purchase on Trump and the MAGA-masses are just sheep being led to the slaughter. But that's just Square A where I started, Tiger, way back in 2016. I paid zero attention to Trump and the election because, in my view at that time, he was obviously just "the other puppet". I've already explained the reasons my view on that has shifted over time...

I don't know Trump's heart, only God does.

Or maybe instead of emulating him, you'll emulate Romney and flip flop for a while.

So, bottom line: You either have no Number Four to offer, or you can't articulate it. But if I can't flip flop with you, I'm blind in one eye, and can't turn my head because of my straitjacket. Nice.

Why do you have such difficulty entertaining the possibility that Trump went off the reservation a long time ago?

How many times do I have to repeat it? Lord, give me strength to keep saying what people have no ears to hear.

Clay, brother, excuse me for screaming into your hearing aid, but I'm at my wit's end. I don't know how else to deal with someone who asks the question, gets the answer, and asks the exact same question again.

It was not a long time ago that he paid Big Pharma to deliver hundreds of millions of vials of poison. Not long ago at all.

It wasn't all that awfully long ago that he conspired with Nancy Pelosi to suspend the Constitution.

I say we just need to do a bit of sorting. There's still some neocon holdouts on the right that need to be sent packing back to the democratic party, or the newly formed shell/front party "Forward". Just get them out of the GOP i don't care where they go. Embrace the division and let the lines be drawn clearly, I say.

Sounds good. And if we had gotten Nathan Dahm nominated for the Senate here in OK, I'd have some faith that the rank and file GOP was competent to do that sorting.

I've seen improvement since 2008. But Republican primary voters still have a very long way to go, and no time left to get there.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Or maybe instead of emulating him, you'll emulate Romney and flip flop for a while.

So, bottom line: You either have no Number Four to offer, or you can't articulate it.



How many times do I have to repeat it? Lord, give me strength to keep saying what people have no ears to hear.

Clay, brother, excuse me for screaming into your hearing aid, but I'm at my wit's end. I don't know how else to deal with someone who asks the question, gets the answer, and asks the exact same question again.

It was not a long time ago that he paid Big Pharma to deliver hundreds of millions of vials of poison. Not long ago at all.

It wasn't all that awfully long ago that he conspired with Nancy Pelosi to suspend the Constitution.



Sounds good. And if we had gotten Nathan Dahm nominated for the Senate here in OK, I'd have some faith that the rank and file GOP was competent to do that sorting.

I've seen improvement since 2008. But Republican primary voters still have a very long way to go, and no time left to get there.

I'm disappointed with primary turnout myself. I understand some folks have convictions when it comes to participating, but on one hand people complain that our choices suck every other November, but on the other hand they can't be bothered to turn out and put some effort into getting someone on the general election ballot that isn't a douche or a turd sandwich. It takes like, I dunno, 10-15 minutes to actually cast a primary ballot every 2 years?

 

[acptulsa]

I'm disappointed with primary turnout myself. I understand some folks have convictions when it comes to participating, but on one hand people complain that our choices suck every other November, but on the other hand they can't be bothered to turn out and put some effort into getting someone on the general election ballot that isn't a douche or a turd sandwich. It takes like, I dunno, 10-15 minutes to actually cast a primary ballot every 2 years?

And these days, the GOP primary is where it's at. There, and in the volunteer poll workers counting the votes.

 

[acptulsa]

They aren't this stupid. Well, Biden is, but not his handlers. They're dangling Trump in front of Republicans like a bone. I don't know if that's to get this reliable puppet reinstated, just in time to sabotage the investigation into the jab and stop resistance to the great Gates farmland buyout, or if they'll snatch that bone away and use the reaction to impose martial law.

Either way, I don't like it.

 

[TheTexan]

No, no, it's all fake. It's all an elaborate theater. All of Washington DC has gotten together and carefully rehearsed pretending to "hate" Trump while, of course, totally loving him and wanting nothing more than to have him back in the Oval Office. </sarcasm>

Yep, you have to be pretty deep on the spectrum, to not be able to see the visceral hatred they have for Trump.

The idea that they secretly love Trump, is like the autistic version of the moon landing conspiracy.

 

[ClaytonB]

They aren't this stupid.

That's one of our biggest disagreements. They're not just dumb, they're dumber than dumb. Like, whatever you think is the lowest level of stupidity at which a human can still be day-to-day operational... think of something a thousand IQ points dumber than that. We are not fighting super-villains... we are fighting super-clowns. Until you get that into your head, you and I are never going to see eye-to-eye on this topic.

Dumber than you can possibly imagine. That's not hyperbole.

 

[acptulsa]

Until you get that into your head, you and I are never going to see eye-to-eye on this topic.

Dumber than you can possibly imagine. That's not hyperbole.

You're half right. We get to agree to disagree.

Their arrogance and godlessness may make them foolish. But that doesn't mean they can't plan and execute a strategy.