Fast-food workers in Detroit walk off job, demand $15 an hour

[VIDEODROME]

Why would an adult choose Fast Food as a career choice? Let the teenagers and college kids do the fast food jobs.

Not sure if serious.

 

[bolil]

Not sure if serious.

Not sure if confusion is authentic.

 

[Aeroneous]

It's factor supply and factor demand. You don't have a bargaining chip if there are a plethora of other people willing to work at the lower wage.

I have zero sympathy for these people. She was still making minimum wage after three years in the industry? Shocker.. who would have thought that Burger King wouldn't have massive performance increases each year? Your life is what you make of it. If you put forth the effort in an effective fashion, you can improve your situation. I realize that the economic structure in this country isn't perfect, but in a forum where we are supposed to be advocating personal responsibility/freedom there seems to be entirely too much blame placed outside the individual in this discussion.

If these people want more money they should invest their time more wisely. Walking off the shift isn't going to entice a fast food chain to double your salary. Why not try getting an apprenticeship in a trade of some kind as opposed to crying in the street? Perhaps look into a vocational school for an in demand skill? Hell.. join the peace corps and expand your skill set that way. Do something that's actually constructive for your resume.

Otherwise, get your whiny ass back inside and get cracking on my McFlurry. Don't skimp on those M&Ms either.

 

[torchbearer]

strikes don't work if the amount of training required to do your job is a day or two.
that means almost everyone in society is probably qualified to do it, making the labor pool for fast food positions quite large.
in a free market, the job probably isn't worth minimum wage, and probably would only be done by high school kids, with young adult management.

 

[Henry Rogue]

I can't remember the first minimum wage for sure. I'm sort of thinking $1.18 when I was delivering papers. Somewhere I'm thinking $1.35 about 1968 and when I started pretty steady in the 70's $1.80.

If you use the Silver & Gold payment calculator to see just what one of those figures is worth after all the years of our wages being at the mercy of the counterfeiters, lets just see how out of line a Global Wage Reset is warranted.

http://www.silverandgoldaremoney.com/

Guesstimates for

1964 or so;

$1.18 = $20.10 an hour

The figure above may be misleading by about about 25% on the low side(?) but they are still way up there. It is calculated on the pre 64 coins having 0.715 troy ounces.


If you go by Robert Sahr's chart below in the embiggen section maybe it would be more like 26 times or $30.68


If you go a different route and use the latest Dow Jones Industrial average of 15,000 to calculate that they have counterfeited the money supply about 30 times over since stocks were a flat-line when we used real money, you would get a figure of around $35.40 an hour.

Kind of confusing except for the part that they have systematically been working us over for decades. Globally.


The global conspiracy in regards to the nations of the worlds immigration laws is no accident.

This got me thinking about other prices Carson. What would be the adjusted price of things you would by with those adjusted wages? Just curious, don't get me wrong I am not an advocate of paper fiat.

 

[Seraphim]

Maybe if their production was that of furniture, textile, clothing....they'd get their 15$....15$ an hour for producing cheap burgers? MMMMMMKKKKKKKAAAAAAYYYYYY

 

[Bruno]

Maybe if their production was that of furniture, textile, clothing....they'd get their 15$....15$ an hour for producing cheap burgers? MMMMMMKKKKKKKAAAAAAYYYYYY

And if they all got $15 and hour, the burgers would no longer be cheap.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

I'd give em about 3 hours to get back to work and then fire all of them. Like hell you deserve $15 an hour to work a drive through. You think they can't find someone else who will accept $7.15? Morons.

That's what I think. I worked in fast food before, and I never once thought that I deserved more than minimum wage just because I could use the money. $15 is ridiculous. These people have absolutely no idea what they are asking for because $15/ hour would put most stores out of business. Ask for $8 per hour or something, but they obviously don't understand how business works if they really thought $15/ hour was reasonable.

 

[Seraphim]

12$ double cheeseburgers...and then no jobs.

And if they all got $15 and hour, the burgers would no longer be cheap.

 

[phill4paul]

Maybe if their production was that of furniture, textile, clothing....they'd get their 15$....15$ an hour for producing cheap burgers? MMMMMMKKKKKKKAAAAAAYYYYYY

No. Because the furniture, textile, clothing corporations would move their operations to a country where they could get $1/hr labor. Like they did.

 

[madengr]

Easy solution is make EBT (food stamps) work at fast food, then double the EBT benefits to cover the wage doubling. Everyone can sign up for Obamacare too, to cover fatty liver disease, type 2 diabetes, etc from 100% fast food consumption. Detroit will prosper in no time with high paying fast food and healthcare jobs.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

No, you cannot live on $7/hr in Detroit, or anywhere. please stop spewing out garbage.

It would help if we knew who you are responding to. But yes, it is possible to live on $7/hour in more places you think, if you know what you are doing.

 

[FrankRep]

No, you cannot live on $7/hr in Detroit, or anywhere. please stop spewing out garbage.

If you need more money, you will need to learn a skill and get a better job. Use Fast Food as a stepping stone.

 

[torchbearer]

Easy solution is make EBT (food stamps) work at fast food, then double the EBT benefits to cover the wage doubling. Everyone can sign up for Obamacare too, to cover fatty liver disease, type 2 diabetes, etc from 100% fast food consumption. Detroit will prosper in no time with high paying fast food and healthcare jobs.

genius. do it!

 

[Keith and stuff]

It would help if we knew who you are responding to. But yes, it is possible to live on $7/hour in more places you think, if you know what you are doing.

Someone should have little problems living on $7 an hour in Detriot if healthy. If they used a bike instead of a car, could even afford health insurance. A lot of DC based liberty organizations start off folks at less than that.

On the other hand, I worked in fast food in the 90s and started at $7 an hour.

 

[osan]

As the 90's roared on, I noticed the price of workmans comp insurance and taxes becoming too expensive to be able to just hire people. Won't talk any further about that, but at a roofing company I was managing and selling for down in Florida.... I noticed they are all paying under the table, hell a growing number are. The workers down there are from Guatemala and Mexico, and they were getting $12-14 per hour, working on hot ass roofs in hot ass weather, but they did want some of their hours on their checks so they could get their big $6,000 to $8,000 tax refund CREDITS at the end of the year when they filed tax returns.

And the companies doing this were taking idiotic risks. When Juan Pablo Cucaracha falls off that hot-ass roof, guess what: you as the business owner are FUCKED. The "authorities" will come down on you like a ton of bricks and you stand a good chance of bidding your business adieux, and possibly your freedom for a while.

And the bit about putting some of the work on the clock makes little sense because that puts them, and YOU on someone's radar.

I cannot believe how fathomlessly stupid people are. Cucaracha wanty worky? Takey 1099ey, take a shovel, STFU, and get to work. Next.

These encroaching regulations are destroying us and will ultimately result in lots of death because our economy cannot stand this forever. We are made war upon and do nothing much about it. That is quite remarkable.

The Globalists are fulfilling their visions of an "equal" world by bringing our standard of living DOWN to the level of the Chinese, rather than theirs up. All the while Theye retain their level of standard and laugh as the gap between us and Themme becomes a chasm. This is power strategy 001 and so few people see it. Likewise remarkable.

 

[BAllen]

I think alot of us are missing the point here in the discussion. Those poor bastards working at these shit jobs, are idiots for trying to double their wage, and probably have no hope of any better job. To be honest I would never go thru a drive thru in Detroit, just because I wouldn't trust the food in the first place. The point here is that people in this country are trying to strike at fast food jobs for Christ Sakes. This would have been considered a pretty far out there joke by any comedian just 5 years ago. It's a reminder of how far this country is slipping, when something like this is happening and in the news.

Go back a few years in time, and imagine how ludacris an idea this would sound like. Today it's just another goofy story were driving by but, it's a tell tale sign of the reality we live in and what is coming down the road. Detroit should have been bulldozed a couple decades ago, but it wasn't. It's still there, sort of like that anchor dragging along the bottom while trying to set sail.

In 1991, when I was in high school still, as a teenager we all wanted to work, and there were jobs, yet you wanted to work even at that age in order to buy things you wanted or go places with your friends. In 95', when I had my own trade business, I was hiring new hires at $14 per hour, more experienced at $20 per hour. The $14 per hour was for college aged workers working while going to school. The idea of just working to pay bills to survive is a strange thought. There has to be an incentive in order to work, to save, or get ahead.

As the 90's roared on, I noticed the price of workmans comp insurance and taxes becoming too expensive to be able to just hire people. Won't talk any further about that, but at a roofing company I was managing and selling for down in Florida.... I noticed they are all paying under the table, hell a growing number are. The workers down there are from Guatemala and Mexico, and they were getting $12-14 per hour, working on hot ass roofs in hot ass weather, but they did want some of their hours on their checks so they could get their big $6,000 to $8,000 tax refund CREDITS at the end of the year when they filed tax returns.

The point here is this, this is not capitalism in this country any longer and its giving capitalism a very very very bad name which is working against us. We have fake money that is running it's end course, an over bearing government at all levels on business, and it's all catching up at this point in time. To expand this movement we need to instead reword our arguments, otherwise people are going to continue to point their anger at business, not the government where it rightfully belongs.

And if regulations continue to get worse, there will be more of that. I suspect there will be an ever increasing under the table workforce like this. And why not? Government cheats businesses and workers with taxes and regulations, so why not?

 

[Carson]

This got me thinking about other prices Carson. What would be the adjusted price of things you would by with those adjusted wages? Just curious, don't get me wrong I am not an advocate of paper fiat.

Seems to me the price of everything has went up EXCEPT wages. All of those prices have adjusted up with inflation over the years. Wages have dragged in the gutter.

Take a look at rent. I remember rent around $135.00 a month.

Take a look at gasoline. I remember it running about 17 to 25 cents a gallon for the longest time.

This sign someone made is pretty timeless. It says a lot. The price of gasoline is still running about 17 to 25 cents a gallon if you use real money. At the same time the inflated price if your using the counterfeited currency is changing with the devaluation of the dollar. 17 cents a gallon works out to about $4.42 if you multiply it 26 times to adjust for inflation. Not to far off of the $3.94 it was running the last time I stopped.

Note; Real money has been running stable in the background hidden from view all of these years.

Also note; If you got paid at the minimum wage of the 60's your $1.18 an hour in real money, today you could sell it for silver scrap and receive $20.10 in the counterfeited script...which is losing about 8% a year in inflation if you don't spend it real quick.

http://www.silverandgoldaremoney.com/


P.S. Even though I've brought up minimum wage several times this isn't what this is about. This is about people banding together for a fair wage.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Seems to me the price of everything has went up EXCEPT wages. All of those prices have adjusted up with inflation over the years. Wages have dragged in the gutter.

Take a look at rent. I remember rent around $135.00 a month.

Except that you can rent a room for that amount in Detroit. Heck, even in New Hampshire people are able to rent a room for $150 and $200 a month. You might be able to find something for $100 a month in Detroit.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

"Many of them have babies and children to raise".

gee, why don't you stop having kids then? Or don't begin to have any if you can't support them

We have a winner!!