Fantasy Football 2015

[dannno]

Well... I totally missed the draft because my internet was dead throughout. Not sure how seriously I'm gonna take this now. Have fun though...

I missed the draft two years in a row and it was still fun. I finally was able to catch the draft today.

 

[thoughtomator]

Yahoo totally can't decide how to evaluate teams. 4-game difference between yesterday's projection and today's for my team.

 

[thoughtomator]

First two points I scored this year were negative points. Yay Josh Scobee, totally thrilled that I dropped Josh Brown for him. Not.

 

[brandon]

I missed the draft this year but plugged in enough FA defense players that I think I might still be competitive with a bit of luck.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

You guys aren't feeling my Cooks/Maclin trade?

 

[thoughtomator]

You guys aren't feeling my Cooks/Maclin trade?

Looks grossly one-sided to me. I can't think of a good reason why Shane would take that trade without some extra compensation, Cooks is set up to be a PPR god this season and Maclin's potential performance is full of question marks, being on a team that threw exactly zero TDs to WRs last season. I'd love to hear what the thought process was behind accepting that offer.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Looks grossly one-sided to me. I can't think of a good reason why Shane would take that trade without some extra compensation, Cooks is set up to be a PPR god this season and Maclin's potential performance is full of question marks, being on a team that threw exactly zero TDs to WRs last season. I'd love to hear what the thought process was behind accepting that offer.

Other managers are saying it was lopsided for the team receiving Maclin, they don't think Cooks will measure up. Opinions seem split.

 

[thoughtomator]

Other managers are saying it was lopsided for the team receiving Maclin, they don't think Cooks will measure up. Opinions seem split.

That the number of drafts where Maclin went before Cooks is probably zero shows where the dominant position is on the matter. In our draft Cooks was pick #31 and Maclin #67 - that indicates a vast gulf in value. It's not a close call, and anyone who thinks differently is going strongly against the opinion of the global fantasy community.

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/draft/brandin-cooks-jeremy-maclin.php?scoring=PPR

Out of 50 experts, 47 think Cooks is the better pick. Consensus rank is Cooks is the #9 WR and Maclin is #23.

There really isn't an honest difference of opinion on the matter. This was trade rape pure and simple.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

That the number of drafts where Maclin went before Cooks is probably zero shows where the dominant position is on the matter. In our draft Cooks was pick #31 and Maclin #67 - that indicates a vast gulf in value. It's not a close call, and anyone who thinks differently is going strongly against the opinion of the global fantasy community.

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/draft/brandin-cooks-jeremy-maclin.php?scoring=PPR

Out of 50 experts, 47 think Cooks is the better pick. Consensus rank is Cooks is the #9 WR and Maclin is #23.

There really isn't an honest difference of opinion on the matter. This was trade rape pure and simple.

There were a number of guys I was willing to trade Maclin for. I didn't trust Alex Smith throwing him any TDs. I worked down the list and went for the best guy I thought I could get for Maclin. Trade was accepted.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

You're off to an uncharacteristic 0-2 start btw?

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

That the number of drafts where Maclin went before Cooks is probably zero shows where the dominant position is on the matter. In our draft Cooks was pick #31 and Maclin #67 - that indicates a vast gulf in value. It's not a close call, and anyone who thinks differently is going strongly against the opinion of the global fantasy community.

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/draft/brandin-cooks-jeremy-maclin.php?scoring=PPR

Out of 50 experts, 47 think Cooks is the better pick. Consensus rank is Cooks is the #9 WR and Maclin is #23.

There really isn't an honest difference of opinion on the matter. This was trade rape pure and simple.

You traded Patrick Willis for who again, last year?

 

[loveshiscountry]

Suggestion. If you need more coaches only accept people on this forum. Otherwise you'll end up with trolls like the one that just joined. I'll accept another team like I did in a past season.

 

[thoughtomator]

This thread has been awfully quiet this season. League has a lot more parity than in the past two seasons and with two games left to be resolved, 15 of 20 teams still have a chance to make the playoffs.

Looks to me like six teams are in (Wackobirds, Whea-thin, Lonestars, Longbombs, LI NY, Argonauts).

Argonauts are going to be in due to points-scored tiebreak, even if they finish 7-7, as long as they field a team next week.

If I win next week I'll be in, or if I lose and don't get overtaken in points by another team that ends 7-7 then I'll be in anyway.

My best guess at team #8 to make it is Bull Terrors or American Hoyer Story. Both have good position to win the last spot if they finish 7-7 due to points scored. If I have a very bad game next week they both might overtake me and get in.

To sum that up, we will have two 7-7 teams in the playoffs. Which two teams they are will depend on next week's results and tiebreakers.

Makes for an exciting finish to the regular season.

Two of the better teams in the league somehow ended up 4-8, oddly enough.

 

[thoughtomator]

As far as my team goes, I'm surprised to have a shot at the playoffs at all this year, four of my top five picks were complete duds due to injury or just plain suckage. The Le'Veon Bell injury was just a killer for me - in a draft this deep if you have an early pick and it doesn't work out that's a team killer right there.

Looking back at that draft roster, my top four offensive player picks were Bell (injured out for season after a couple of games), Davante Adams (never met expectations), Jimmy Graham (never met expectations and now out for the season) and Sam Bradford (did nothing with a ridiculously great opportunity). It's a miracle I'm not at the bottom of the league, really, and I'm not sure how it happened that I'm ending up with a probably playoff team. Waiver wire was not very friendly compared to years past, more managers must be being on top of the news because almost every time I learn of a good prospect, he's already been taken.

That really good IDP lineup (that I overpaid for in the draft) did make the team oddly resilient though, but I hate the scoring floor and the ceiling is not as high as I'd like it to be. JJ Watt in the fourth, in hindsight, was too early. He's been good but not good enough to justify that. Guess I can't complain too much when I ended up with the #1 DL, 3 of the top 11 LBs, and the top DB. But I gave up too much on the offensive side of the ball to get it. I'm thinking next year I'd rather pick the wire for IDP instead of offense, I'll probably have better luck and won't end up with a offensive roster full of plug-and-pray wire rejects.

It was worth a shot, but being honest with myself that novel new draft strategy didn't work out quite as well as I'd planned. Although if Bell were still playing and putting up a reliable 20-30 points a game it just may have. At the moment I don't expect to be all that competitive in the playoffs, this team is certainly not at the level of the monster teams I had at this point last year and the year before.

 

[thoughtomator]

Seems I got it a bit wrong... didn't realize that division winners make it regardless of whether they're actually in the top 8, and that head-to-head result is the first tiebreaker.

If we end up with a bunch of teams ending at 7-7 it's hard to predict who is in and who is out because many of these teams have played each other so there are head-to-head tiebreakers that could break for or against any of them based on who else they are tiebreaking with and which team gets in as a division winner. It's actually quite complicated, the teams can't be strictly ordered.

Due to the tiebreaking procedure, it appears neither my team nor Bastiat's is actually a lock, we've both got wins and losses against the others we may be tiebreaking with, so this week's game between us is actually a play-in game (winner gets in due to 8-6 record), but the loser of the matchup may get in also. Very strange.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

This thread has been awfully quiet this season. League has a lot more parity than in the past two seasons and with two games left to be resolved, 15 of 20 teams still have a chance to make the playoffs.

Looks to me like six teams are in (Wackobirds, Whea-thin, Lonestars, Longbombs, LI NY, Argonauts).

Argonauts are going to be in due to points-scored tiebreak, even if they finish 7-7, as long as they field a team next week.

If I win next week I'll be in, or if I lose and don't get overtaken in points by another team that ends 7-7 then I'll be in anyway.

My best guess at team #8 to make it is Bull Terrors or American Hoyer Story. Both have good position to win the last spot if they finish 7-7 due to points scored. If I have a very bad game next week they both might overtake me and get in.

To sum that up, we will have two 7-7 teams in the playoffs. Which two teams they are will depend on next week's results and tiebreakers.

Makes for an exciting finish to the regular season.

Two of the better teams in the league somehow ended up 4-8, oddly enough.

I've been a tad quieter this season simply because I've been working a lot more. It has been an odd season for fantasy. I like that there's still a lot to be decided going into the last week of the regular fantasy season. !

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Seems I got it a bit wrong... didn't realize that division winners make it regardless of whether they're actually in the top 8, and that head-to-head result is the first tiebreaker.

If we end up with a bunch of teams ending at 7-7 it's hard to predict who is in and who is out because many of these teams have played each other so there are head-to-head tiebreakers that could break for or against any of them based on who else they are tiebreaking with and which team gets in as a division winner. It's actually quite complicated, the teams can't be strictly ordered.

Due to the tiebreaking procedure, it appears neither my team nor Bastiat's is actually a lock, we've both got wins and losses against the others we may be tiebreaking with, so this week's game between us is actually a play-in game (winner gets in due to 8-6 record), but the loser of the matchup may get in also. Very strange.

You know what else is strange? In one of my other leagues (same exact rules and setup as ours) there's a division where every team could end the season 8-6 LOL.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

Damn we're playing each other this week too! Just realized that haha

 

[thoughtomator]

Yup, whichever one of us wins is definitely in... the loser may or may not be in depending on what happens to the teams that are now 6-7 and whether the loser of our game has won or lost against whoever else ends up in the 7-7 tiebreak. We've each won and lost against different 6-7 teams, and they against each other, so it gets really complicated really fast and I'm really not 100% sure how that gets handled. If it comes down to a points-scored tiebreak then both of us are in good shape even with a loss this week.

 

[thoughtomator]

After all the drama and nailbiting over our game, turns out it didn't matter anyway - we'll both get in. All of the 6-7 teams have already lost this week with the possible exception of Aaron Burr's Bullet, who will slide into the Prosperity division winner slot anyway if he does.

Playoff lineup/seeds:

1) Dallas Wackobirds 13-1
2) Whea-thin 12-2
3-5) Longbombs, Desert Lonestar, LI NY (depending on how tiebreakers sort out) 10-4
6) Argonauts 8-6
7) One Percenters 7-7
8) Prosperity division winner (probably Aaron Burr's Bullet) 6-8 or 7-7 (I didn't play him so I'll win points tiebreaker)

Good job on recruiting managers this year, Bastiat. There is exactly ONE team in the league with fewer than five wins, extraordinary for a 20-team league. Everyone except the original manager of the team now known as "Late to the Party" was competitive and no more than 2 games out of a playoff spot.