Famed Mexican Boxer Julio César Chávez Jr. Arrested By ICE

[acptulsa]

The cartels are far more evil and murderous even than the deepstate.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The cartels kill people on that scale with regularity.

 

[acptulsa]

The cartels kill people on that scale with regularity.

Yada yada you couldn't know and certainly don't have proof, or both the official and the unofficial cartels would have killed you.

An assertion of faith. Defending evil by pronouncing your favored evil "lesser" using "facts" pulled straight out of your ass.

 

[Intrepid]

LOL

The cartels are far more evil and murderous even than the deepstate.

I don't know about that. The cartels are more transparent if nothing else. The cartels draw a line and you know if u cross it you'll get your legs broken or worse. The deep state smiles in your face while they send your kids to war, fill your food with chemicals, and steal your money. Pick your poison I guess.

 

[acptulsa]

Pick your poison I guess.

He did. The ugly part is how disrespectful he is to people who pick the other poison. It's almost as if he doesn't come here to share information and ideas, but rather for the specific purpose to pick fights like an AWFL Karen.

 

[tebowlives]

I'm sure they don't know a thing about Chavez and his beliefs.

From the Wik:
In the early 1970s, Chavez sought to expand the UFW's influence outside California by opening branches in other U.S. states. Viewing illegal immigrants as a major source of strike-breakers, he also pushed a campaign against illegal immigration into the U.S., which generated violence along the U.S.-Mexico border and caused schisms with many of the UFW's allies.

Chavez increasingly blamed the failure of the UFW strike on illegal immigrants who were brought in as strikebreakers. He made the unsubstantiated claim that the CIA was involved in part of a conspiracy to bring illegal migrants into the country so that they could undermine his union. He launched the "Illegals Campaign" to identify illegal migrants so that they could be deported, appointing Liza Hirsch to oversee the campaign. In Chavez's view, "if we can get the illegals out of California, we will win the strike overnight." This was a reiteration of an early view he expressed concerning the problems the UFW boycott faced in 1972. Chavez believed that any strike undertaken by agricultural workers could be undermined by "wetbacks" and "illegal immigrants". Huerta urged him not to refer to migrants who had come to the U.S. illegally as "illegals" but Chavez refused, stating: "a spade's a spade."

But isn't that his father? Jr was born in the 1986

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don't know about that. The cartels are more transparent if nothing else. The cartels draw a line and you know if u cross it you'll get your legs broken or worse. The deep state smiles in your face while they send your kids to war, fill your food with chemicals, and steal your money. Pick your poison I guess.

I have chosen neither, unlike some here I support the man and movement opposing both the deepstate and the cartels.
Others here have chosen any and every foreign enemy of the American people because they falsely believe that this will harm the deepstate which is actually in bed with those enemies.

 

[PAF]

I have chosen neither, unlike some here I support the man and movement opposing both the deepstate and the cartels.
Others here have chosen any and every foreign enemy of the American people because they falsely believe that this will harm the deepstate which is actually in bed with those enemies.

Coming from you, who supports Trump Making-the-Deep-State-Deeper [MDSD!]

All of which you were given the facts and warned repeatedly about - even well before the election:

'Trump’s Megabill Expands Biometric Surveillance'

Jul 4, 2025

h/t @Snowball

It's not just the border. The system is going nationwide.
They cannot stop us until they have the system in place. They will build it then use it.

Trump’s megabill expands biometric surveillance

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Trump’s megabill expands biometric surveillance | Biometric Update​

The bill reflects an aggressive expansion of federal biometric surveillance infrastructure under the Trump administration’s second term...

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[sparebulb]

But isn't that his father? Jr was born in the 1986

My post is in the context of this post from B4L.

If this guy is an actual criminal with warrants, why wasn't he arrested long ago? And did his legal entry visa expire? Does he have a current visa?

Of course this is just another outrage story in opposition to deportations, with the addition of cognitive dissonance. Even the leftwing media is saying he has cartel ties. "Even cartel members shouldn't be deported!"

And in California, the name "Chávez" is always thrown around for attention, or to gain popularity or sympathy. If AOC was from California, her name would be Alexandria Ocasio-Chávez. Everyone wants to imply some connection to Cesar Chávez.

 

[ClaytonB]

The cartels are far more evil and murderous even than the deepstate.

No. I don't care about this arrest either way, but the DS are far more murderous than the cartels, which are just one tentacle of the DS. It's important to be clear about this because one of the primary techniques by which the DS continually slithers out of accountability for its ocean of crimes is putting its attack-dogs front-and-center and saying, "Look how murderous these attack-dogs are! They're the worst of the worst!" No, the DS are the worst of the worst, and there is a literal ocean of blood on their hands. The DS is just the agency of the prophetic whore of Babylon:

In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth. (Rev. 18:24)