Explosion Rocks the center of Oslo Norway

[Chieppa1]

Just imagine if he was a suicide bomber......

 

[moderate libertarian]

Norway is an odd choice as a Muslim terror target...

Norway has endorsed Palestinian statehood. http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?ID=229906&R=R1...

Norway has excluded Isareli investments.http://sociofonia.org/pipermail/trpalestina_sociofonia.org/2010-August/000147.html

Senator Lieberman has accused Norway of promoting anti-semitism http://www.haaretz.com/news/lieberman-accuses-norway-of-promoting-anti-semitism-1.282524...

Norway has also announced its plan to withdraw from the Libyan war http://www.thenews.com.pk/NewsDetail.aspx?ID=16834

Edit: It also turns out that the summer camp where the shootings took place had just concluded a pro-Palestinian rally the day before http://translate.google.com/transla...pph%C3%B8re-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na/

See Washington's Blog for more info. http://www.washingtonsblog.com/

When I read this news on Examiner earlier, strange conspiracy theories and comments were being made about this angle by posters there. But all speculation till facts come out.

 

[marc1888]

Apparently he is an anti muslim christian zionist. The kids on the island were left wingers and pro palestinian and were advocating a boycott of Israel. Here is an article from yesterday about them http://politisk.tv2.no/nyheter/stør...-ma-opphøre-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na/

 

[amy31416]

Apparently he is an anti muslim christian zionist. The kids on the island were left wingers and pro palestinian and were advocating a boycott of Israel. Here is an article from yesterday about them http://politisk.tv2.no/nyheter/stør...-ma-opphøre-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na/

From the article:

Sammen med NRK-korrespondent Sidsel Wold og Norsk Folkehjelps Kirsten Belck-Olsen, diskuterte utenriksministeren den fastlåste situasjonen mellom Israel og de palestinske selvstyremyndighetene.

Ahh, now it all makes perfect sense!

 

[Anti Federalist]

Lew nails it.

No matter what or who or why, the state will justify killing many times more than those who died today, in "revenge" of what-have-you, while tightening the noose of the police state around us all.


War in Norway

Posted by Lew Rockwell on July 22, 2011 01:35 PM

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/91900.html

Normally, graphic photos of war victims and destroyed property are banned by the US state-run media. When acts of war—and what is terrorism but war?—are useful to the US and its allies in their wars, we see and hear all about them. Yet this horror is what the Pentagon commits many times, every day, in 6 or 7 different countries, and no one seems to care.

I do not know who murdered all these Norwegian children and adults, God rest their souls, but I do know this: their deaths will be used as an excuse to kill many, many more children and adults, and to fasten the screws of the police state even more deeply into Europeans and us.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Death toll at the kids camp now said to be 80. English background on him according to FOX: http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpps/new...ay-terror-suspect-dpgonc-20110722-kh_14255246

 

[moderate libertarian]

Apparently he is an anti muslim christian zionist. The kids on the island were left wingers and pro palestinian and were advocating a boycott of Israel. Here is an article from yesterday about them http://politisk.tv2.no/nyheter/stør...-ma-opphøre-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na/

I know I speculated earlier too about Libyan connection but again earlier reports and assumptions are not always right. Just replied to your post.

If this is same camp, that would be interesting piece of news. However we should be careful in assuming till initial reports are confirmed as they are often wrong. Earlier it was blamed on "helpers of global jihad" by NYT and Drudge. Now soon after name of suspect was released, many people on twiiter are pointing fingers at Israel.

http://darklochnagar.blogspot.com/


But all speculations till facts come out.

 

[BucksforPaul]

There's really no good reason not to believe it isn't the usual suspects. Norway has been fighting radical Islamic terror ever since the cartoons were printed a few years back. And recently there have been some high profile terror trials in their courts, too.

(This is why Washington wants terrorists tried in tribunals far away from the general populace. Not a decision I always agree with, but it's certainly not a decision that doesn't have some merit.)

Wrong as usual since this terrorist seems to be a Christian. Talk about jumping to conclusions.

 

[ClayTrainor]

Lew nails it.

No matter what or who or why, the state will justify killing many times more than those who died today, in "revenge" of what-have-you, while tightening the noose of the police state around us all.


War in Norway

Posted by Lew Rockwell on July 22, 2011 01:35 PM

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/91900.html

Normally, graphic photos of war victims and destroyed property are banned by the US state-run media. When acts of war—and what is terrorism but war?—are useful to the US and its allies in their wars, we see and hear all about them. Yet this horror is what the Pentagon commits many times, every day, in 6 or 7 different countries, and no one seems to care.

I do not know who murdered all these Norwegian children and adults, God rest their souls, but I do know this: their deaths will be used as an excuse to kill many, many more children and adults, and to fasten the screws of the police state even more deeply into Europeans and us.

Summed up to perfection.

 

[BucksforPaul]

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=1&hp

A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism.

So what is this bullshit and are we going to ignore this blatant lie?

 

[GreenCardSeeker]

I've been reading the writings of this man now, the ones found on Islam-hating document.no (http://www.document.no/anders-behring-breivik/).

He apparently hates Islam and Palestine, loves the state of Israel, wants to ban all "hate ideologies," which according to him consist of Nazism, Communism and Islam. He distances himself from ethnocentrism and is sad when Norwegians embrace their ethnic identity in the face of violence by foreigners. In spite of using the name "cultural conservative" for himself, he distances himself from homophobia and wants to welcome gay activists to his movement. He hates people referring to Israel as a racist state, and he states that since the enemy has no moral integrity, his movement can't have any either. To quote him: "They've set the rules, we only follow them."

In spite of this, now he's referred to as a nationalist in media over here, in spite of distancing himself from it in his own words, never calling himself a nationalist, and killing 91 of his own countrymen.

And can you believe he now risks a maximum of 21 years in prison for this massacre? And will probably be out in 15 or so.

 

[Cowlesy]

Apparently he is an anti muslim christian zionist. The kids on the island were left wingers and pro palestinian and were advocating a boycott of Israel. Here is an article from yesterday about them http://politisk.tv2.no/nyheter/stør...-ma-opphøre-muren-ma-rives-og-det-ma-skje-na/

Well now how are Geert Wilders and the Jihadi hunters going to leverage this if the guy 1.) was anti-Palestine 2.) was not a nationalist.

 

[amy31416]

Well now how are Geert Wilders and the Jihadi hunters going to leverage this if the guy 1.) was anti-Palestine 2.) was not a nationalist.

I don't know what Geert Wilders will do, but I do know that our media here will exploit the "right wing" aspect (and ignore his anti-Palestine/non-nationalist views) to further demonize Tea Party types here.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

Peace and prayers to friends and family.

The editorials and commentary on this shall prove interesting to observe, no doubt.

I'm particularly interested to hear what Beck will have to say...

 

[GreenCardSeeker]

Well now how are Geert Wilders and the Jihadi hunters going to leverage this if the guy 1.) was anti-Palestine 2.) was not a nationalist.

Funny thing is that he was a big fan of Geert Wilders and talked quite a bit about him, Robert Spencer and similar people, who he viewed as his brothers-in-arms. It's also rumoured that this man might have been the blogger Fjordman for at least some period too.

 

[Todd]

If the government, by the end of the day, trots out the scruffy "perp line" of the "usual suspects", and claims to have it all figured out, I'd say it was safe to call bullshit at that point.

Well get ready to call it. The story 's gone from home grown al qaeda to right wing extremist in 24 hours.

 

[GreenCardSeeker]

I made a brief translated compilation of his political comments available now on http://danielhammarberg.blogspot.com/2011/07/anders-behring-breivik-oslo-shooter-and.html .

 

[pcosmar]

A lone nut.
All the "security"in the world will not stop a lone nut. EVER.

But that won't stop them from infringing on the whole world to exert their "controls".

 

[pcosmar]

A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism.

I wonder how much money they make for being consistently wrong?

 

[ExPatPaki]

So am I, like, not supposed to judge all Christian Zionists by the action of this one guy?

If this guy was a Muslim, you can bet the media would be calling this 'Norway's 9/11'