Experiment: Will People Pay For 'Made In USA'

I won't go out of my way.

I love my country. I know that we are capable of working any other country into a hole in the ground and throwing a shindig afterwards with our spare energy. We have the best craftsmen in the world, and we have the spirit of an independent work-ethic motivated by the pursuit of the good, the true and the beautiful, unlike basically every other country in the world where work is motivated exclusively by the whip. The globalists have done their damnedest to whip us into slaves just like all the other countries they have built through history. (And COVID showed that they've pretty well succeeded, minus a certain number of holdouts still remaining.)

That said, the very fact that we would need to "Buy Made in the USA" in order to "save our economy" just demonstrates that we've already lost the war, at least, on the economic front. The American economy, say, circa 1880-1960 didn't need Americans to "buy American"... people just bought American because it was (a) better quality, (b) better service, (c) faster, (d) cheaper, or any combination of these. But when you found your economy on paper money and allow the banksters to gamble away your national wealth in the Forex casino while they foment global wars and global catastrophes to the tune of trillions of dollars, engineered according to the whims and dictates of the occult spiritists and fortune-tellers who drive them around like puppets, what were we expecting?? The bulk of American national wealth, certainly on the West Coast, is already under Chinese control, either directly or indirectly. That didn't happen because the CCP is just so industrious, productive and creative, quite the opposite. Marxism is incapable of producing anything besides rhetoric and back-of-the-skull bullet-holes. Rather, it happened because the CCP and the domestic turncoats who have made a traitorous alliance with them, schemed to expropriate American wealth and transfer it into the hands of CCP ganglords. The domestic turncoats did all of this for the lowest of all motives: the bribe. And where were those bribes funded from? From the banksters who just dipped a briefcase into the fountain of infinity-cash spouting out the money-spigot at the Fed.

Buying "Made In America" is a beta move, it's really just a capitulation to the status-quo. Instead of forming posses and hunting down and hanging the traitors who sold the sinews of this country to foreigners in order to line their pockets with some Fed-paper, we're going to "really sock it to 'em" by "buying American". Yeah, you go get 'em, Tiger! You show those dirty CCP rats who's boss! I'm sure they'll be very impressed and totally won't retaliate against you by using indirect influence to have you put on the To-Layoff list with your current employer under the guise of "This Role Replaced By AI"...
 
You just posted in favor of anarchism like 2 days ago. Now you can only see state intervention as the cure?

Who's the real Texan?

As I've said before, state intervention and anarchism are not incompatible concepts. States can exist in an anarchist utopia, so long as the right to secede is respected.
 
The free market solution would be to have free markets.

The problem is we'd probably have to cut government spending in half to have anything resembling a free market and nobody wants to have that much short term pain.

Seems like religious hand-waving, unless you can actually detail how the free markets would bring manufacturing back to America.

Because according to Adam Smith, a commonly cited "free market expert", things right now are exactly how they should be - China has specialized in manufacturing.
 
Seems like religious hand-waving, unless you can actually detail how the free markets would bring manufacturing back to America.

We can make stuff for the home market that aren't overpriced overseas because of the excessive safety equipment, if we deregulate. Getting rid of OSHA would also cut overhead radically.
 
We can make stuff for the home market that aren't overpriced overseas because of the excessive safety equipment, if we deregulate. Getting rid of OSHA would also cut overhead radically.

Let's say we get rid of all regulations.

What economic advantage do we then have over China that allows us to compete profitably? They still have the massive economic advantage of infrastructure and logistics.
 
We always competed back when we were free. We found ways.

Ingenuity.
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Nowadays, competition isn't so popular.

People would rather Harrison Bergeron their competitors instead.

That’s on account of all the freedom.
 
I love free traders some times.

They say we should embrace the free market's regional specialization of industries.

Then when we say hey that's kind of a problem, they say:

We should embrace the free market so that it can correct the regional specialization of industries that we had a problem with.
 
Free market is magical it can do anything!!

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I love free traders some times.

They say we should embrace the free market's regional specialization of industries.

Then when we say hey that's kind of a problem, they say:

We should embrace the free market so that it can correct the regional specialization of industries that we had a problem with.

I love people who see the problems communists create trying to micromismanage everything, then insist we have to micromismanage everything because since we began trying to micromismanage everything everything is mismicromanaged.

And then say they're fighting against servitude.

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Such people may as well be Democrats, and Democrats may as well be Germans.

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I love people who see the problems communists create trying to micromismanage everything, then insist we have to micromismanage everything because since we began trying to micromismanage everything everything is mismicromanaged.

And then say they're fighting against servitude.

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Such people may as well be Democrats, and Democrats may as well be Germans.

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Well explain it to me, which am I suppose to believe is correct? I have been told both on numerous occasions.

1) In a free market, regional specialization naturally occurs due to specialization (e.g., Adam Smith), or
2) In a free market, the US would be able to have factories again, because free market is awesome like that

Free traders have used either of the above arguments whichever is convenient at the time, but the two options are not compatible.

So which is it???

The honest answer, I expect, is some variation of "don't know, don't care, I just love the free market however it decides to function". Which is a perfectly valid perspective. But if you were to go with that perspective, it can't really be presented as a definitive solution to the problems that us tyranny-traders (opposite of free-traders) have with China having a monopoly on manufacturing. At best, it can be presented as "maybe it will fix the issue, but maybe not, shrug!" kind of solution.

Perhaps you can clarify?
 
1) In a free market, regional specialization naturally occurs due to specialization (e.g., Adam Smith), or
2) In a free market, the US would be able to have factories again, because free market is awesome like that

We had factories. The free market didn't kill them. Government did, through unions, through regulations, through sabotage.

Get government out of the way and stop the sabotage and guess what? You'll find out we'll be as good at that specialty as we ever were.

What part of the problems were caused by communists micromismanaging shit did you not understand?

We were great at that specialty until our own government made it difficult.

We were great at that specialty until our own government made it difficult.

We were great at that specialty until our own government made it difficult. Remove the roadblock and we can drive again.

You fap to power so hard you've lost all faith in America and Americans.

Hello?!
 
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We had factories. The free market didn't kill them. Government did, through unions, through regulations, through sabotage.

Get government out of the way and stop the sabotage and guess what? You'll find out we'll be as good at that specialty as we ever were.

What part of the problems were caused by communists micromismanaging shit did you not understand?

To be clear, are you rejecting Adam Smith's hypothesis, then?

Because according to Adam Smith, regional specialization is both a good and natural consequence of free trade.

And what that means in practice, is that once a region has acquired a high degree of specialization, as China has, it's naturally very difficult to try to enter that market outside of that region. You don't have the economies of scale they do, so it's an uphill battle to try to enter the market.

I happen to believe he's correct in that regard.

And to be clear on my part, I'm not disputing that the US government contributed to fucking this up. I just don't think the US government getting out of the way can fix what's already been broken - regional specialization has already occurred and it is not something that is easily undone.
 
Hammer breaks a vase -> Get rid of the hammer -> vase is fine

Is that how it works? :)
 
To be clear, are you rejecting Adam Smith's hypothesis, then?

Stop trolling. You're so used to being spoon-fed bullshit by politicians you seem to want me to show you every potential entrepreneur chomping at the bit to build and compete, if he could afford the compliance specialist consultants, and the lawyers, and the bribes.

I don't care to play your semantic games. I'd Sooner see you fuck off, Longhorn.
 
Stop trolling. You're so used to being spoon-fed bullshit by politicians you seem to want me to show you every potential entrepreneur chomping at the bit to build and compete, if he could afford the compliance specialist consultants, and the lawyers, and the bribes.

I don't care to play your semantic games. I'd Sooner see you fuck off, Longhorn.

Okay Mr. Free Market is magical and can allow US to compete despite having zero infrastructure compared to China's massive infrastructure

*throws fairy dust and disappears*
 
Now you're saying China can build factories but we can't.

Bullshit. Why do you hate America, pinko?

We can build factories just fine. We just can't build them profitably, because we don't have the infrastructure to do so.

Any free market entrepreneur who is chomping at the bit will lose every penny of his investment if he tries to build a factory in the US right now, with or without regulations.
 
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