EXCLUSIVE: "We Have To Think Past November" RFK's VP talks Next Steps, Inflation, DNC, Electio

Ok, I've had a chance to watch in full.

Here are my takes:

Vocal fry is annoying as fuck - RFK gets a pass for his voice; she chose that dialect to sound "cool" to her peers

She reluctantly sees the benefit of SCOTUS overturning Chevron - that's great

She talks about Citizens United and corporations buying politicians, but misses the point entirely. We don't need more government restrictions, we need to eliminate the power of politicians to affect commerce - then, there will be no influence to buy. In other words, she blames the corporations instead of the power of the state. It's backwards. It is the power of the state that creates the incentive for corporations to influence the politicians in the first place. I think with a proper education and more experience, she may be able to be brought around.

On inflation, she seems to know what she's supposed to say, but I don't think she has a firm understanding of monetary policy. I'm glad that she recognizes that reducing spending is the primary fix, but I'm not sure she fully grasps the connection. The interviewer had a better grasp.

I REALLY like that she understands that the same people controlling our currency are the ones who control our speech.

She was asked how to cut spending and she went on a weird diatribe about millennials and genX and boomers - which, in my opinion, completely misstated the differences. When she returned to spending, she talked about accountability (and then said the millennials are more accountable, which is why they jump jobs more - huh?!) She thinks government is a transactional body - um no, it's force. Sorry, hun. But somehow technology will help government spend less?

She talks about voluntary policy, but then talks about increasing inheritance tax to create economic stimulus. But you can avoid the tax if you put the money towards something the government deems "stimulatory". (as if giving the wealth I've earned during my life to my children to use as they see fit isn't stimulatory.) In short, she doesn't understand that wealth is created - she thinks there's wealth sitting around doing nothing - and we need to redistribute that according to government's needs.

Her idea of the basic functions of government are: clean food, water, public utilities and other "public goods". Sorry, sister. The role of government is to ensure individual liberty. That's it. And she doesn't want "smaller" government as much as she wants "efficient" government. (Make the trains run on time??)

She correctly named Trump's Achilles' heel as Big Pharma - but I think his real Achilles' heel was his need to be liked and seen as a hero and Big Pharma capitalized on his narcissistic need.

She trusts the leadership of Trump's team more than that of the Harris team. For me, it's not about trust as much as it is about track record. I've worked with the DNC department heads and they will do as much and more than they can get away with. If they lose in the courts, they'll just try again another way. They are actively trying to expand government scope in EVERY aspect - foreign adventurism, speech, entitlements, regulation, you name it. And they just do it without legislation and hope they don't get stopped.

In summary, I think she needs to learn more. She probably needs to spend more time with Ron Paul. Still a little naive. Her heart is in the right place, but I wouldn't want her in a leadership position just yet. I'm sure there could be a role for her, but VP isn't it. RFK has made some bad choices and she is one of them. (Israel is another) I am glad that she woke up from her support of Schumer and the DNC! I hope she can lead more people away from that in the future.
 
Um, isn't this yours?:

How they'll set Trump up to be installed as dictator

It seems to be a thread literally mimicking the MSM's talking points about Trump bringing about a dictatorship.

Believe them when they tell you.

The fear porn is trying to distract conservatives from the fact that the most dangerous and deadly entity on the face of the earth today is the U.S. Government. Nobody kills more people. Do you doubt the veracity of the statement? That's how I identify real threats.
 
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Believe them when they tell you.

The fear porn is trying to distract conservatives from the fact that the most dangerous and deadly entity on the face of the earth today is the U.S. Government. Nobody kills more people. Do you doubt the veracity of the statement? That's how I identify real threats.

They tell you what they will do, and they tell you what they will do by projecting it on their opponents.
You should never believe them when they say what their opponents will do.
 
Is it just me or is she pretty easy on the eyes. Or maybe I'm just older with lower standards. lol...
 
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Is it just me or is she pretty easy on the eyes. Or maybe I'm just older with lower standards. lol...


I already told Swordy hands off. I'd tell you the same but, she's hitched already lol


It's a productive conversation.

She mentioned Ron Paul at around 14:00


She's kinda cute :kiss:

[MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] , hands off, she's mine lol
 
Now, I know, as an anarchist, you despise the concept of a nation and you despise this nation, and the people in it.

Do you assume that about me? I don't despise the concept - I simply know what the concept IS.

"Nation" is synonymous with race. That was always its use prior to the 19th century. Now that we have other quotes from Lincoln available with his real views on blacks, we know when he said "Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation" he was most likely talking about the white nation.

The term has been co-opted. It's been redefined, the same way they redefined "among", "privacy", "rights", "liberal", "government", and so many others. And just like every other term that's being misused, I'm going to ignore the popular use and stick with the one that keeps the special purpose for that word and doesn't just create a synonym for "country".

And when I consider the use of that word as it is meant to be used, I don't see any need to defend it. I am white, but I am a mutt. And even though I'm 50% traceable back to one white nation, that nation is Irish, and that nation has some bad, bad blood with another nation, the English - blood that is quite possibly worse than the bad blood blacks have for whites.

And then I consider that 25% of my mutt makeup traces back to England. Now WTF am I supposed to do with that? Who am I supposed to be mad at now?
How much sense does it make for me to be mad at the guy who is cutting the neighbor's grass, given that I myself am a product of two different groups that used to kill each other coming to this country and putting their differences aside so they could displace the nations who unequivocally had the place first? And seriously, where does that leave the nations that were taken here against their will from Africa? They don't ever seem to be part of this consideration by the "American Nation" types.

So I fall back on the training I received from my church, as well as that which came from the well-meaning hippies who got ahold of children's programming back in the 60s and 70s, and put a blindfold on when I'm specifically addressing the question of who belongs here. They all do.

Now that said, yeah, there totally needs to be a common understanding of what it means to be here. And I agree 100% nobody is giving the newcomers that understanding and the people funneling them in are definitely working in opposition to them getting the common understanding they need in order not to destroy the place.

But that's not your messaging. Your messaging is "nation" and that's a term that's loaded like a 2 year old's diaper at a cocktail party.

I don't believe you or anyone else taken in with MAGA is a racist. I believe you're like me, an American mutt who has had to deal with historical European beefs between white people and also has applied that tolerance to non-whites in the past. I believe you've probably had "plenty of X friends" where X is whatever race in question. I believe you've turned off the filter you fine-tuned 30 or 40 years ago on this subject because you think that filter isn't doing any good anymore.

Well, turning it off isn't doing any good either. I'm not judging you or anyone else for turning it off. I'm just saying, it's not helping, and I don't see how it ever could. Leaving it off is polarizing people and making them reject whatever else you're saying. I thought the thing we all agreed 16 years ago is that if we just talked things out and didn't judge, we can bring people to the position of liberty. That's true no matter what nation they're from. There's still ample evidence it works. We all just abandoned the effort at some point around 2012. This isn't a replacement.
 

How great will it be if this is all a head fake to get a wider audience? And then he goes out there and blasts the DNC for their coup and installation of a retard and blasts the Republicans for their inability to do anything real? Then in true Jerry Macguire style says, "This country is just too stupid to be fixed! I'm moving to Argentina, who's coming with me?!"
 
Guys I'm only 18 min into this and my spite vote is turning more and more into a real vote.
This is at least a 70% overlap so far.
Turn the sound down and turn on CC and read it if this is what's blocking you.


The thing that gets me is that some say that any advance toward liberty is an advance worth taking. But when it comes to Trump, every shred of that goes out the window. And they try to justify it by saying as solid as Ron Paul is, he would not have been able to do a thing.

Vote, don't vote, I get it from all angles. What's important to me is getting the conversations going and to actually talk about possible solutions rather than accepting the duopoly's corporatist-status-quo. If it takes RFK Jr, [who was guest speaker at Ron Paul's "The War on Us" conference and also on his Liberty Report show], and cute as a button/intelligent Nicole Shanahan who Ron spent an hour of his time speaking with, there's something to be said about that.

I don't agree with everything, but on the important issues I do. If he is on the ballot, and for the first time in well over a decade, he/she [proper pronouns] is getting my vote.
 
Guys I'm only 18 min into this and my spite vote is turning more and more into a real vote.
This is at least a 70% overlap so far.
Turn the sound down and turn on CC and read it if this is what's blocking you.

The thing that gets me is that some say that any advance toward liberty is an advance worth taking. But when it comes to Trump, every shred of that goes out the window. And they try to justify it by saying as solid as Ron Paul is, he would not have been able to do a thing.

Vote, don't vote, I get it from all angles. What's important to me is getting the conversations going and to actually talk about possible solutions rather than accepting the duopoly's corporatist-status-quo. If it takes RFK Jr, [who was guest speaker at Ron Paul's "The War on Us" conference and also on his Liberty Report show], and cute as a button/intelligent Nicole Shanahan who Ron spent an hour of his time speaking with, there's something to be said about that.

I don't agree with everything, but on the important issues I do. If he is on the ballot, and for the first time in well over a decade, he/she [proper pronouns] is getting my vote.

All we can do is try for real solutions. All we can do is all we can do. And I'm going to do what I can toward a real solution. And pray.

Kick the can down the road. No. We're way past that. We're kicking that can up against the brick wall across the end of this dead end alley.
 
Oh, let's see...death camps, GULAGs, armed troops confiscating all private property not just guns, release of hundreds of thousands of violent criminals to make room for hundreds of thousands political prisoners, deaths of millions of elderly, infirm and retired as the system they rely on and "paid in to" utterly collapses, confiscation of farmland resulting in mass starvation events such as people slaughtering zoo animals for food, the re-writing of the US Constitution so as to remove any protection of natural rights...just off the top of my head.

Now, I know, as an anarchist, you despise the concept of a nation and you despise this nation, and the people in it.

Well, I can understand that, there's not much love lost between me and your run of the mill average AmeriKunt these days.

But this new class of invaders are notch above that.

When times get tough they eat each other.

They will eat you.

You can wave a copy of Atlas Shrugged or The Wealth of Nations in their face all day long, and they won't give a flying $#@!, other than to maybe rip the pages out to start the fire to roast your ass on.

I'm not telling you or asking you to vote for Trump...I know as well as you do how ridiculous it all is.

I'm asking you to reflect, for just a moment, to realize that no man is an island, that liberty and a society that protects it and allows it to flourish, comes from both individual and collective efforts, of man working together with his fellow man to make something better, to build a society where freedom can grow.

That's all.

It's funny how at least once a month at church I hear someone do the exact same fear mongering about what will happen if Trump wins. "It will be a bloodbath! He told right wing Christians they'll never have to vote again! He said he wants to be a dictator!" Yeah. Okay. Fear is a powerful motivator. I remember when we were about our hopes as opposed to just about our fears. This is what I guarantee will happen in 2025 regardless of who wins. The economy will collapse. It's already collapsing. Some of this was put in motion in 2019 when Trump cooperated with Blackrock to put the "COVID rescue plan" in action prior to COVID even being declared an emergency by WHO because none of that waa really about COVID in the first damn place. Remember who Trump is really friends with...and it ain't you.

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Lock her up? Yeah right!
 
It's funny how at least once a month at church I hear someone do the exact same fear mongering about what will happen if Trump wins. "It will be a bloodbath! He told right wing Christians they'll never have to vote again! He said he wants to be a dictator!" Yeah. Okay. Fear is a powerful motivator.

Right? I mean, it's almost like we weren't all here for the last 8 years and we have a track record of how both administrations performed and what they really did...

For me, I'll take the first 3 years of Trump over anything that happened since. If they really want to fearmonger about Trump, they should focus on how he handled a crisis and how he bowed down to the powered elite - the problem they have with that is that the opposition IS the powered elite.

I had high hopes for RFK... I don't know if he could have won, but he could have destroyed the DNC if he had gotten the Israel positioning right.
 
Right? I mean, it's almost like we weren't all here for the last 8 years and we have a track record of how both administrations performed and what they really did...

For me, I'll take the first 3 years of Trump over anything that happened since. If they really want to fearmonger about Trump, they should focus on how he handled a crisis and how he bowed down to the powered elite - the problem they have with that is that the opposition IS the powered elite.

I had high hopes for RFK... I don't know if he could have won, but he could have destroyed the DNC if he had gotten the Israel positioning right.

I completely agree! Trump tripped over COVID and RFK Jr. tripped over Israel. If RFK Jr. had taken the Candace Owens "I just don't want any babies to die, Israeli or Palestinian" he'd be at 20 - 30% right now in national polling.
 
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