Everyone take a deep breath and repeat after me...

[danny987]

"Delegates are all that matter."

That's the bottom line. A straw poll win may help our momentum but is in no way required. We still have a good chance at winning the delegate count, and a great chance at it if we go in to a brokered convention. So go ahead and cry more if you'd like or you can cool off and level out and look at it from a technical stand point. I swear this board has more mood swings than a bi-polar teenage girl on her period.

 

[flynn]

^Bump

 

[CTRattlesnake]

Hate to burst your bubble bro...

but in a month or so there are no more caucuses, or proportional states.

We need to actually WIN a state to get delegates.

 

[mickey mouse joy division]

Yeah, sure.

 

[Stallion]

+rep

 

[danny987]

Hate to burst your bubble bro...

but in a month or so there are no more caucuses, or proportional states.

We need to actually WIN a state to get delegates.

But in the case of a brokered convention those delegates would still come unbound, am i wrong? (i very well could be but this is my understanding).

 

[1stAmendguy]

Regardless of the number of undercover RP delegates there are, how would a candidate without a single win to show for be seen as a credible choice at the GOP convention?

 

[Esoteric]

I'm sorry, I'm all for optimism to an extent.. but this is getting outrageous. It does NOT matter if we get ALL the delegates in ALL the caucus states if Romney carries all the momentum for the next month to the nomination. We can't prove the media's delegate count wrong until it's TOO LATE.

 

[slamhead]

And a nice strong Jack N Coke.

 

[mport1]

Yeah, delegates matter somewhat and Romney is killing us in delegates.

 

[MisfitToy]

You guys really care about how the GOP looks at Ron Paul at the convention? You already know what the GOP thinks about Ron Paul and us and the Constitution, etc. I'm in this to save everyone. We need to push away from the brink and I'm not stopping. Let Ron Paul win all the delegates and get the nomination, oh well sorry, that's the way it works.

 

[slamhead]

Regardless of the number of undercover RP delegates there are, how would a candidate without a single win to show for be seen as a credible choice at the GOP convention?

I just want to see the convention melt down into a brokered fiasco at this point. You know Abraham Lincoln came into the convention with the least delegates in 1860 and walked out with the nomination. Weirder things have happened.

 

[tbone717]

I mentioned this in another thread, but will repeat here. What makes us think that 50% of the people that have run for delegate are RP supporters. We need 1144 of our people on the floor at Tampa for Paul to backdoor his way to the nomination. Given that each of the other three candidates has organization, do we honestly think that they are unable to get their people to also run for delegate. Granted they do not have the grassroots enthusiasm that we do, but they do have the political connections. I looked over the delegate ballot for PA and the majority of the ones in areas I am familiar with are all local politicians, that will go for Romney or Santorum. Only a small handful of the ones I saw could potentially be Paul people.

 

[opinionatedfool]

I don't know how many times i have to repeat this:

According to the RNC rules, in order to compete in the convention you have to "win the plurality of delegates from 5 states."

We are winning delegates! I just posted a freaking post the other day about where we were really at. People weren't expecting to win the popular vote in no states tonight. Why? Because that doesn't really matter. What does matter is the freaking delegates!

If people stop freaking out about the strategy and focus on getting delegates, we'll be in good shape for a brokered convention. What the heck is so hard to understand about that???????????

Did we win any states tonight? Most likely 3 states (maybe more) when you consider DELEGATE count.

If you don't know what a delegate is its time to look it up!

Sorry, there's my vent. I'm just really upset because everyone seems to be losing focus on the freaking strategy. That's what strategies are for!

 

[tbone717]

I don't know how many times i have to repeat this:

According to the RNC rules, in order to compete in the convention you have to "win the plurality of delegates from 5 states."

We are winning delegates! I just posted a freaking post the other day about where we were really at. People weren't expecting to win the popular vote in no states tonight. Why? Because that doesn't really matter. What does matter is the freaking delegates!

If people stop freaking out about the strategy and focus on getting delegates, we'll be in good shape for a brokered convention. What the heck is so hard to understand about that???????????

Did we win any states tonight? Most likely 3 states (maybe more) when you consider DELEGATE count.

If you don't know what a delegate is its time to look it up!

Sorry, there's my vent. I'm just really upset because everyone seems to be losing focus on the freaking strategy. That's what strategies are for!

Ok I get your point about the plurality of five states. I imagine that is doable. But that doesn't resolve how Paul can get to the 1144 number with his people on the floor. Take a state like MA for example. I have little to no doubt that the overwhelming majority of the people that will be in Tampa will be Mitt's people. While we may he able to get some of our people in a position as a bound delegate for another candidate, what evidence do we have that we can have 1144 of them there?

I just have a hard time believing that in a state like TN for example, where we got 9% of the vote we managed to dominate the delegate election and our people will be bound to Santorum, Romney & Newt, but when released will go for Paul. I know we have a lot of RPF people trying to win delegates slots, and some on the FB groups and other places, but are our numbers that strong that we can win that many slots at the RNC when we have such strong competition?

 

[opinionatedfool]

Regardless of the number of undercover RP delegates there are, how would a candidate without a single win to show for be seen as a credible choice at the GOP convention?

Oh my gosh! RNC rules: a win is getting the "plurality of delegates". RP has won several states according to the rules.

 

[1stAmendguy]

I don't know how many times i have to repeat this:

According to the RNC rules, in order to compete in the convention you have to "win the plurality of delegates from 5 states."

We are winning delegates! I just posted a freaking post the other day about where we were really at. People weren't expecting to win the popular vote in no states tonight. Why? Because that doesn't really matter. What does matter is the freaking delegates!

If people stop freaking out about the strategy and focus on getting delegates, we'll be in good shape for a brokered convention. What the heck is so hard to understand about that???????????

Did we win any states tonight? Most likely 3 states (maybe more) when you consider DELEGATE count.

If you don't know what a delegate is its time to look it up!

Sorry, there's my vent. I'm just really upset because everyone seems to be losing focus on the freaking strategy. That's what strategies are for!

Perception doesn't matter? People who are more ignorant of the delegate process and believe that the non-binding straw polls votes announced as breaking news on TV are in fact binding are going to look at this as an underhanded strategy.

 

[JK/SEA]

Yeah, delegates matter somewhat and Romney is killing us in delegates.

we don't know that yet. wait till conventions get underway.

 

[georgiaboy]

It's all good. party on.

 

[Ronulus]

Do you guys really think the american people that vote for newt/mitt/santorum are going to be happy when Ron Paul gets elected to the nomination by sliming his way in with delegates? No those people will be pissed and won't vote or will vote for donald trump when he decides to run.