Everyone please help edit post-16th TeaParty07.com page

Any specifics as to what is already up?

I would make the link at the bottom directing new supporters to the "what to do next" page to be much more prominent.

Consider also putting this same link in a second place closer to the top to grab the attention of new enthisiastic folks who are ready to go ahead right away and don't even need the selling points. Put it right in front of them so they don't even need to drill down to find the action step.
 
Awesome, great job, waited to post to read the whole thread, great result, thanks

freedom is contagious, catch it, spread it
 
I love it all except "Grandchildren of Liberty". I know lots of people are thinking hard, I hope we come up with something better than this, or Paulites. It's a shame that Libertarians and Liberals have both been totally corrupted by socialists.

Libizens?
Libertzens? (Liberty + citizens, I kinda like this)
Libertians?
Libertines?
Liberteens?
Libertists?
Libericans?
Libicans?
Liberzens?
 
Great Job!!!

Just a thought…
Unless the feeling is that these are too obvious, you may want to consider adding to the "what can you do?" page to show other ways new supporters can show Ron Paul’s growing support. For someone who’s internet access is the weekly trip to the library the following two may be a good fit:

5. Show Ron Paul’s growing support by putting a Ron Paul bumper sticker or magnetic sign on your car.

6. Show Ron Paul’s growing support by putting a Ron Paul sign in your yard or window.
 
I would make the link at the bottom directing new supporters to the "what to do next" page to be much more prominent.

Consider also putting this same link in a second place closer to the top to grab the attention of new enthisiastic folks who are ready to go ahead right away and don't even need the selling points. Put it right in front of them so they don't even need to drill down to find the action step.

+1
A link near the top (above the fold). Make it sound more urgent like "What now? Ok, we've raised a record-breaking $12,993,332 in 24 hours! That's AMAZING but Ron Paul CANNOT win unless you do just a few things..."


Great Job!!!

Just a thought…
Unless the feeling is that these are too obvious, you may want to consider adding to the "what can you do?" page to show other ways new supporters can show Ron Paul’s growing support. For someone who’s internet access is the weekly trip to the library the following two may be a good fit:

5. Show Ron Paul’s growing support by putting a Ron Paul bumper sticker or magnetic sign on your car.

6. Show Ron Paul’s growing support by putting a Ron Paul sign in your yard or window.

+1

Have a short MUST to-do list (get registered, change party, etc)

Then have a long list of things they can do to spread the word (e.g. bumper stickers, signs, share popular videos like ronpaulishope.com, help chipins like http://www.ronpaulgraphs.com/chipin.html, make DVDs ronpauldvd.com, etc.)
 
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My quick response:

1) "Americans dumped a total of" sounds like people were throwing their money away. I prefer to think of it as a voice in support of liberty, and an investment in the future of our country.

2) "This time the revolution will not be fought with muskets,
but with sound ideas & principles." Well, it was fought with sound ideas and principles in the 1770's too! It just happened that in the context of what was happening at the time, they had to use muskets also.

3) "The new American REVOLution has begun!" "EVOL" should not be highlighted unless the L and the E are backwards.
 
Can you add to the final number....

A slow fading in & out or left to right, GREEN NEON backlit GLOW to the final fund raising total digits?

here's an example from the YAHOO Widgets:

http://widgets.yahoo.com/widgets/neon-clock


The example pic on yahoo is not good, but if you download it and set the colors for the digital clock it looks very captivating, especially, with the glowing NEON GREEN.

when the time changes, there's a nice slow fade update... left to right. There's also a slight REFLECTION feature too.

Just an input.

PEACE, Wood
 
A slow fading in & out or left to right, GREEN NEON backlit GLOW to the final fund raising total digits?

here's an example from the YAHOO Widgets:

http://widgets.yahoo.com/widgets/neon-clock


The example pic on yahoo is not good, but if you download it and set the colors for the digital clock it looks very captivating, especially, with the glowing NEON GREEN.

when the time changes, there's a nice slow fade update... left to right. There's also a slight REFLECTION feature too.

Just an input.

PEACE, Wood


After thinking about it, I change Grandchildren of Liberty back to Grass Roots...

Trying to keep the to do list short so only 4 items...Put dumped in quotes...Moved some quotes around...Made "What can you do?" really BIG...How do I code the neon green glowy thingy?

Here is the proposed page:
http://mysite.verizon.net/nathanielyao/index.html
 
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I concur with the change back to grassroots. The meaning of that term is relatively well understood.

I have a couple of suggestions for moving line breaks.

Near the bottom you have:

Those ideas & principles are embodied in the Presidential Campaign of
Congressman Ron Paul.

I suggest making that into this:

Those ideas & principles are embodied in the
Presidential Campaign of Congressman Ron Paul.

Below that you have:

Liberty is lost through complacency...America was born of protest [and] revolution...
- Congressman Ron Paul, August 9, 2004

I suggest putting that on three lines instead of 2 (and put a space before the ellipses).

Liberty is lost through complacency ...
America was born of protest [and] revolution ...
- Congressman Ron Paul, August 9, 2004

The text on your site stretches past your background on my PC but I'm using Ubuntu and the original TeaParty07 site was worse on my computer.
 
Please add your comments, suggestions and critique to this thread. I will be taking care of the TeaParty07.com website after the 16th

This is a fantastic idea. Thank you Nathaniel for taking the lead on this. And thank you very much for bringing this up on the forum. The site looks pretty good as is and I think it would be adequate once some of the suggestions already mentioned here are implemented.

That said, I'm gonna get picky and play devil's advocate....

When I look at the web page with a cynical and critical eye, my first impression is that it's about a really expensive tea party. You may laugh at me for saying this, but the two biggest things I see are "Tea Party '07" and "$12,345,678.90." I scan the rest of the page, see something about a Presidential campaign, then something about the American Revolution and that's about it. If I'm not particularly political or if I don't have a lot of time on my hands, I stop right there because: I didn't learn why Ron Paul is awesome and fantastic. I still don't know why $12,345,678.90 is such a big deal (especially compared to those other candidates I hear about all the time on CNN). And even if I knew why Ron Paul is awesome and fantastic, I certainly don't feel the urgency to rush out and do anything because the 2008 Presidential election is almost a year away.


Even though it's a given that many people accessing the page will already have a general idea of what's going on and why it's important because they heard it on the news, the page doesn't scream "New one-day fund raising record! Lots of ordinary, everyday Americans gave their hard-earned cash to Ron Paul because they think that he is the best Republican Presidential candidate, and you can help, too!" and when you get right down to it, that's the message that this page should be sending.

In my mind, this page should be aimed at people who heard a sound bite about the fund raiser or saw a small news segment about it on TV. Like lots of Americans, they're probably politically jaded and/or politically inexperienced and might assume that Ron Paul is just another politician. Even if they were curious enough to find the website, they may be in a hurry or have a short attention span, and once they access the site, they probably have three big questions and they want them answered quickly:

1) Why is $12,345,678.90 such a big deal? How does that compare to the amount of money raised by Rudy McHuckneyson?

If possible, I think a graphical representation of Ron Paul's 4th quarter fund raising compared to that of the other candidates would be great, maybe just a simple bar graph. It would be a high-impact graphic and catch people's attention quickly.

2) Who is Ron Paul? What does he believe in? Is he any different from other Presidential candidates?

Try to find a succinct way of explaining his most important policy positions and make them highly visible above the fold. I'm thinking something like "Fiscal conservative, anti-war, pro-defense Presidential candidate with a Congressional voting record that adheres to Constitutional principles." Have a link to his official campaign website with obvious text like "Ron Paul's positions on other important issues." I skipped right over the "sound ideas & principles" link the first time I saw the page, and I didn't even realize that it linked to the official campaign website.

3) Why does this matter right now? Sure, Ron Paul sounds like a good guy. But the 2008 Presidential election is almost a year away.

Many of us on this forum know that this matters so much right now that we might not remember that the vast majority of people aren't even thinking about Presidential politics yet. This is especially true of people who haven't previously been involved in politics and will be viewing the website out of plain old curiosity. I think the message needs to be something along the lines of "The Presidential primaries start in XX days - Find out how to register to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries" and give a link to state-specific information about registering for primaries. Again, this should be above the fold. I like the information on the page linked by the "What can you do? Click Here" link but it just doesn't grab my attention. It isn't above the fold and doesn't tell me that the primaries are coming up soon, so I might not even be interested enough to click it.


Of course I'm being ultra-critical here, but we need to keep in mind that people are busy with their lives and may not have time to read the website word-for-word and figure out exactly what's going on. If they don't see a good reason to keep reading within 10 or 20 seconds of staring at the page, they'll probably move on.

I know that my suggestions may require a fundamental overhaul of the page, which may or may not be worth it depending on what else you have on your plate over the next five or six days. It's just my two cents...
 
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Also, a minor point about the links near the bottom of the page -- the blue links on the black background are difficult to read and aren't very aesthetically pleasing. Perhaps try a different shade of blue (lighter blue to increase the contrast) or some other color that would be easier to read.
 
Needs more information regarding all the issues

Good site, just one thing that I think will help as the members of the media read this page and tries to make sense of the donation drive. Of course the tax protest is the central theme behind the donations but that is not the central reason as to why people are donating. A few other comments have suggested this as well. When the media look to this site as an explanation behind the donations I think they will end up spreading a lot of misinformation as they only half-understand the inflation tax, or attempt to debunk it. Wouldn't it be better to provide the top reasons as to WHY people are donating, not only the inflation tax (which may be an enabler to all the other reasons), but also listing things like: smaller federal government, non-interventionism and a withdrawal of troops from around the world (the people taking back the government), phasing out social security, in general libertarian values, getting rid of federal income tax, etc.?
 
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Good site, just one thing that I think will help as the members of the media read this page and tries to make sense of the donation drive. Of course the tax protest is the central theme behind the donations but that is not the central reason as to why people are donating. A few other comments have suggested this as well. When the media look to this site as an explanation behind the donations I think they will end up spreading a lot of misinformation as they only half-understand the inflation tax, or attempt to debunk it. Wouldn't it be better to provide the top reasons as to WHY people are donating, not only the inflation tax (which may be an enabler to all the other reasons), but also listing things like: smaller federal government, non-interventionism and a withdrawal of troops from around the world (the people taking back the government), phasing out social security, in general libertarian values, getting rid of federal income tax, etc.?

Should definitely be considered. Something like:

On December 16th, 2007, 84,304 American citizens donated $12,556,443 to the Ron Paul presidential campaign to express their frustration with government's support of:

  • Preemptive, undeclared wars and foreign occupations that cost billions of taxpayers' money, undermining and threatening our national security and economy.
  • Flagrant abuse of the monetary system that ultimately drives the value of our dollar down, robbing the wealth of working Americans (Federal Reserve, inflation tax, federal income tax, manipulation of money supply).
  • Lack of respect for our personal liberties and freedom by way of the PATRIOT Act, National ID card, warrentless wiretapping and searches, suspending habeas corpus.

List what he'll do: minimize government, bring troops home, etc.

And always good to mention receiving more contributions from military personnel than all the other candidates.
 
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I think instead of saying this revolution will be won with ideas and principals instead of muskets, you should say, "Ballots, instead of bullets". It's catchier and emphasizes non-violence.
 
Hi everyone,

Given how big December 16th is turning out to be, with the moneybomb, the rallys all over the country and in Europe, the Blimp, and the media coverage, there is sure to be a boost of curious people and newbies to the TeaParty07.com site after the 16th.

We would like to have something to educate and show off the best of Ron Paul up on the site on the 17th.

Here is the proposed page:
http://mysite.verizon.net/nathanielyao/index.html

Please add your comments, suggestions and critique to this thread. I will be taking care of the TeaParty07.com website after the 16th


Thanks!


I'm in South Korea. The link is blocked. Can't get there from here.
 
This is a fantastic idea. Thank you Nathaniel for taking the lead on this. And thank you very much for bringing this up on the forum. The site looks pretty good as is and I think it would be adequate once some of the suggestions already mentioned here are implemented.

That said, I'm gonna get picky and play devil's advocate....

When I look at the web page with a cynical and critical eye, my first impression is that it's about a really expensive tea party. You may laugh at me for saying this, but the two biggest things I see are "Tea Party '07" and "$12,345,678.90." I scan the rest of the page, see something about a Presidential campaign, then something about the American Revolution and that's about it. If I'm not particularly political or if I don't have a lot of time on my hands, I stop right there because: I didn't learn why Ron Paul is awesome and fantastic. I still don't know why $12,345,678.90 is such a big deal (especially compared to those other candidates I hear about all the time on CNN). And even if I knew why Ron Paul is awesome and fantastic, I certainly don't feel the urgency to rush out and do anything because the 2008 Presidential election is almost a year away.


Even though it's a given that many people accessing the page will already have a general idea of what's going on and why it's important because they heard it on the news, the page doesn't scream "New one-day fund raising record! Lots of ordinary, everyday Americans gave their hard-earned cash to Ron Paul because they think that he is the best Republican Presidential candidate, and you can help, too!" and when you get right down to it, that's the message that this page should be sending.

In my mind, this page should be aimed at people who heard a sound bite about the fund raiser or saw a small news segment about it on TV. Like lots of Americans, they're probably politically jaded and/or politically inexperienced and might assume that Ron Paul is just another politician. Even if they were curious enough to find the website, they may be in a hurry or have a short attention span, and once they access the site, they probably have three big questions and they want them answered quickly:

1) Why is $12,345,678.90 such a big deal? How does that compare to the amount of money raised by Rudy McHuckneyson?

If possible, I think a graphical representation of Ron Paul's 4th quarter fund raising compared to that of the other candidates would be great, maybe just a simple bar graph. It would be a high-impact graphic and catch people's attention quickly.

2) Who is Ron Paul? What does he believe in? Is he any different from other Presidential candidates?

Try to find a succinct way of explaining his most important policy positions and make them highly visible above the fold. I'm thinking something like "Fiscal conservative, anti-war, pro-defense Presidential candidate with a Congressional voting record that adheres to Constitutional principles." Have a link to his official campaign website with obvious text like "Ron Paul's positions on other important issues." I skipped right over the "sound ideas & principles" link the first time I saw the page, and I didn't even realize that it linked to the official campaign website.

3) Why does this matter right now? Sure, Ron Paul sounds like a good guy. But the 2008 Presidential election is almost a year away.

Many of us on this forum know that this matters so much right now that we might not remember that the vast majority of people aren't even thinking about Presidential politics yet. This is especially true of people who haven't previously been involved in politics and will be viewing the website out of plain old curiosity. I think the message needs to be something along the lines of "The Presidential primaries start in XX days - Find out how to register to vote for Ron Paul in the primaries" and give a link to state-specific information about registering for primaries. Again, this should be above the fold. I like the information on the page linked by the "What can you do? Click Here" link but it just doesn't grab my attention. It isn't above the fold and doesn't tell me that the primaries are coming up soon, so I might not even be interested enough to click it.


Of course I'm being ultra-critical here, but we need to keep in mind that people are busy with their lives and may not have time to read the website word-for-word and figure out exactly what's going on. If they don't see a good reason to keep reading within 10 or 20 seconds of staring at the page, they'll probably move on.

I know that my suggestions may require a fundamental overhaul of the page, which may or may not be worth it depending on what else you have on your plate over the next five or six days. It's just my two cents...

QFT!
 
A total of 123,456 Americans just like you donated an average of $100

Make this the first thing they see. This should be the message. Next in importance is why thy donated then you can tell them how much was made.

This time the revolution will not be fought with muskets,
but with sound ideas & principles.

this looks like we are talking about sound not ideas.

Do not have pink on this page it is really disgusting.
 
I think the pink links should be changed to a different color like dark red or black. The green links should probably be a little darker, though they're pretty good as is.

Also, the text seems kind of unprofessional on there. Make it more stylized kind of like formal handwriting, though not as elaborate as the Tea Party part. However the typewriter look just comes off bland and unappealing. Also, a bigger picture of Paul in a more prominent place, but somewhat like the one you have in style.

On the what to do page it seems like there's too much space. Making the text bigger and putting more space between 1 and 2, but less space between the other numbers.

It also would be nice to add a call to donate with a link since Paul will need plenty of donations even after December 16th.

Oh the numbers for amount raise should be more prominent, perhaps something to highlight the number more either a slight change to the area behind it or some special outline or something like that.
 
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