Everyone invited to Des Moines

[Bryan in Iowa]

I'm guessing the Michigan director is either the Meetup organizer or ??? The only states with paid campaign staffers are IA and NH, right? Otherwise, we're mostly a self-appointed volunteer network.

Joe Seehusen is the paid campaign coordinator for Iowa.

 

[dspectre]

John,


You really need to cool it.

 

[CurtisLow]

From the Campaign: EVERYONE IS INVITED TO Des Moines. Do NOT believe anything in Facebook or any other website that implies anything to the contrary.

Hmm.. I had the same thought in the last couple of days.
Remember, this is an open forum. Beware of the Anti RP people. They can be sneaky.

 

[John of Des Moines]

Exactly

Hmm.. I had the same thought in the last couple of days.
Remember, this is an open forum. Beware of the Anti RP people. They can be sneaky.

Exactly my point in my earlier post.

 

[Blowback]

Everyone remember who those people are who spread the rumor. I haven't seen one apology yet. Just keep track of the negative rumor spreaders and commentors. Remember that anyone can get on this board.

 

[dspectre]

Well let's be honest we don't know 100% sure until we get more official notices on the matter, which will probably come soon.

However, to think that people are coming on this forum to just sabotage the "get together" when it can easily be squashed by an official statement is ridiculous!!

The saying is true..."You are your worst enemy."

 

[Trevorjustco]

Everyone remember who those people are who spread the rumor. I haven't seen one apology yet. Just keep track of the negative rumor spreaders and commentors. Remember that anyone can get on this board.

Well, like an apology would help dissuade people's now vehement hatred for me and my supposed "sabotage" that was probably nothing more than a misunderstanding.

Anyways, I am sorry. Despite the stigma that is associated with this phrase: I was just following orders.

 

[Bryan in Iowa]

Well let's be honest we don't know 100% sure until we get more official notices on the matter, which will probably come soon.

However, to think that people are coming on this forum to just sabotage the "get together" when it can easily be squashed by an official statement is ridiculous!!

The saying is true..."You are your worst enemy."

Joe Seehusen's message to the ground crew here in Des Moines is an official reply to Megan's statement. Joe is not coming on the boards to announce this. If Justine is 'official' to many of you, then you can wait for her announcement, but trust me, Joe's word is GOLD.

 

[wizardwatson]

Everyone Is Welcome In Iowa

EVERYONE IS WELCOME

My name is David Watson, I'm the Topeka Meetup coordinator. I spoke to Andrew Michel on the phone in person about 5 minutes ago. He said, "Everyone is welcome". He was unaware that any such rumor about out-of-staters not being wanted even existed.

Just call HQ if you are unsure, if enough people call them they will put something official out to rebut this rumor.

 

[John of Des Moines]

Official Statement

Well let's be honest we don't know 100% sure until we get more official notices on the matter, which will probably come soon.

However, to think that people are coming on this forum to just sabotage the "get together" when it can easily be squashed by an official statement is ridiculous!!

The saying is true..."You are your worst enemy."

The National HQ has enough to do. Please consider the facts: I am the Des Moines Organizer for the Des Moines Area & Central Iowa Ron Paul 2008 Meet-up Support Group. I was with Joe Seehusen Iowa Ron Paul Coordinator from 10:30 Friday morning at the Iowa GOP Straw Poll site auction to 7:00 that evening. I witnessed Joe sign the contract renting the hall next door to the Presidential Forum. Further, the Campaign website says Everyone is Invited. What more "officialness" is needed?

 

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

No, Paul Garfield is an official campaign staff member, and is the campaign manager for the state of Michigan.

An up to date list of official campaign staff can be found at http://www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/

Okay, thanks. I didn't realize Michigan was at the top of the priority list. Glad to see they're rolling out staff. Who would have thunk they'd need it with all of us so WILLING and ABLE and COORDINATED? Sratch the coordinated.

 

[joshuastjohn]

Paul Garfield is the Michigan Chairman for the Ron Paul for President Committee. Lew Moore visited here for that announcement. Regardless of who's been invited, we from Michigan have been instructed to not go to Iowa because the costs would be better served as donations to the campaign. Why there hasn't been an official announcement nationally is beyond me.

 

[John of Des Moines]

Who's Orders

Well, like an apology would help dissuade people's now vehement hatred for me and my supposed "sabotage" that was probably nothing more than a misunderstanding.

Anyways, I am sorry. Despite the stigma that is associated with this phrase: I was just following orders.

Is it a violation of Federal Anti-Racketeering statutes to use the internet in an attempt to harm the business of another? That is, the "business" of Ron Paul's Presidential Campaign. If so, "I was just following orders" will go over real good in front of a jury.

 

[LibertyEagle]

John, I hope you have some proof of your claim that Trevor intentionally misled anyone. Because if you do not, you owe him an apology. And Trevor.... if you were wrong and it looks as if you were, you need to step up like a man and apologize for your error and attempt to straighten out the confusion you caused on Facebook.

 

[Zydeco]

Holding my tongue

but it's getting difficult. I'll try harder.

 

[yongrel]

John, cool your jets for a second. I'm just as inclined to believe it was an honest mix-up.

Innocent until proven guilty? Maybe?

 

[Trevorjustco]

Is it a violation of Federal Anti-Racketeering statutes to use the internet in an attempt to harm the business of another? That is, the "business" of Ron Paul's Presidential Campaign. If so, "I was just following orders" will go over real good in front of a jury.

Good God! Now you're threatening legal action due to a misunderstanding?!
I'm trying to get to the bottom of this with Paul. Just lay off for a freaking minute.

 

[Avalon]

Paul Garfield is the Michigan Chairman for the Ron Paul for President Committee. Lew Moore visited here for that announcement. Regardless of who's been invited, we from Michigan have been instructed to not go to Iowa because the costs would be better served as donations to the campaign. Why there hasn't been an official announcement nationally is beyond me.

That makes sense to me. I would like 3 things:

1. Confirmation from Josh or Brad (they both seem trustworthy and have contact with the campaign). No need to flood the HQ over this.
2. Plans from John as to what we out of staters can do while we are there. Not only the day of but the day before and maybe the next few days after.
3. Between the Iowa meetup coordinator, John, and HQ decide on a value of a participant in each of these scheduled/organized events. Post this value (and again, confirmation directly from Josh, Brad, HQ etc.)

Then we individuals can decide whether to come or not based on our personal expenditure and other details (how many people we can carpool with, how many events we can make, how much work we plan to do, etc).

 

[mdh]

Calm down guys. Here's the deal.
HQ folks have links to everything - Trevor Cook's thread and his statement that the info came directly from Paul Garfield. They were not aware that Paul Garfield's name had been thrown around until my pal just mentioned it. They will confront Mr. Garfield as appropriate, as he's their employee.
If it turns out that Mr. Garfield did make those statements to Mr. Cook, then they will deal with that however they see fit, and Mr. Cook is not responsible for originating the rumor - if someone listed as an official campaign employee asked me to pass on info, I would, too. If it turns out that he did not initiate this, then the campaign folks will be able to deal with Mr. Cook as they see fit, as well.

At any rate, it's not particularly helpful to be upset at Trevor Cook until we know that he acted wrongly. Let's instead focus on getting the word out that the rumor is not correct.

I've made some posts on the original facebook thread. I'd urge Mr. Cook to edit his OP on there to reflect current developments.
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2229718737&topic=5091&post=39469

 

[John of Des Moines]

Good God! Now you're threatening legal action due to a misunderstanding?!
I'm trying to get to the bottom of this with Paul. Just lay off for a freaking minute.

Why did you say you were just following orders? That is a statement against your interests. Now if you read my post I said "Is it a violation of Federal Anti-Racketeering statutes to use the internet in an attempt to harm the business of another?" That is called a question.