Everyone invited to Des Moines

[BuddyRey]

Ouch! Des Moines is a 17 hour drive from my house (and Mapquest usually gives a very conservative drive time estimate). I'll be with you guys in spirit!

 

[Shink]

I think that should be handled by letting Iowans (like myself) in FIRST, but not ONLY Iowans, unless it's swamped before out-of-staters even think about entering.

I wish any of my friends gave a damn about politics, because I'd have more people to drag up.

 

[dspectre]

I'm surprised people are so doubtful of what Trevor said...but I think it is important that we get confirmation.

Hmm think about it, the campaign may not want out of "staters" because of the bad press something like that can get plus(Like the Dean Summer love fest)....

Let's see if we assume numbers 5,000 people come to the event, and then they spend around $150 for gas, food, and expenses....

That would be ~$750,000 to the campaign, which would almost be another million to report for Q2....

I really could see the logic in the campaign suggesting to donate instead of travel to show up for the event...

 

[Shink]

Yes, this is literally coming straight from the Ron Paul Campaign Headquarters. The Michigan Campaign director, whom I met with just earlier today, had discussions with the Iowa director, and Lew Moore, at different times over the past week. They officially declared that they do not want out-of-state Paul supporters to come to the Tax-Payers' forum and the following Paul promo rally.

All the money that you might be wasting on gas could be better spent if it were donated to the campaign directly. I know this is counter-intuitive, saying this to groups of libertarians... but this is the hard truth. The more money that they can get, the better.
Apparently, the McCain camp isn't doing as well financially as they had hoped. With that in mind, the likelihood that we can pass their campaign's total raised funds is MUCH higher than ever expected.

If we can pass McCain in total funds by June 30, we can prove, without a doubt, that Paul has REAL support, and this can easily translate into growing support of geometric proportions.

Again, I repeat: Don't go to Iowa if you are out-of-state. If you really want to help, donate all of the money that you would have spent on gas directly to the campaign.

Thanks.

For reference.

 

[torchbearer]

http://eventful.com/events/E0-001-005011869-5


Here's the eventful link to the RALLY ...

I sgned up on a different eventful for the same event. how many eventfuls are there for this event?

 

[Trevorjustco]

Yeah, my feelings were hurt a little bit from all of the skepticism.
It didn't help my credibility that I absentmindedly used the wrong name of the Michigan Chair. =P
Anyways, I would really like to hear from HQ directly what their plans are. Has anyone heard anything yet?

I'm beginning to suspect that there might have been a bit of misunderstanding between the Michigan director and myself. He might have been under the impression that Facebook was some sort of Michigan-based social networking site, and thus his directive to me to spread the word to the people on there (where this message originated) would have been perfectly justified. Traveling to Iowa and from Michigan and back could easily exceed $500.

Anyways, again, has anyone heard from HQ on this?

 

[mdh]

Trevor, are you saying that the Michigan campaign director, Paul Garfield, told you to post on facebook that folks should not go to Iowa? I was under the impression that Justine was solely responsible for online announcements on sites like facebook.

 

[LibertyEagle]

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[John of Des Moines]

New members

It seems that new members don't read thread labels before continuing to spreading rumors.

 

[John of Des Moines]

Talking to HQ

Nothing here interesting to look at. Go on now, move along.

 

[LibertyEagle]

John, you need to tone it down. I will leave it at that.

 

[Bryan in Iowa]

From the Campaign: EVERYONE IS INVITED TO Des Moines. Do NOT believe anything in Facebook or any other website that implies anything to the contrary.

From Joe Seehusen, Iowa State Coordinator:

"Stop this rumor in it's tracks.
Everyone is warmly invited and welcome to the event.
We are counting on a large showing of supporters from around the country, as well as in Iowa.
Thanks ...
Joe"

Received this morning at 6:56 AM in reply to my request for clarification.

 

[Trevorjustco]

Trevor, are you saying that the Michigan campaign director, Paul Garfield, told you to post on facebook that folks should not go to Iowa? I was under the impression that Justine was solely responsible for online announcements on sites like facebook.

Yes.
Honestly, I'm not aware of what Justine does, or her reach on Facebook. Last I checked, I've never seen her post on Facebook directly, and her communications to the group has been entirely second-hand as well. (Usually through Jeff Frazee, or some other admins)

Additionally, like I noted, Paul doesn't seem to be in-the-know about the scope of Facebook. I tried to explain the site to him, but he seems to definitely be more of a meat-space minded strategist. I definitely double-checked with him when we were talking over dinner last night, that he wanted me to relay the message to the Facebook group.

Additionally, this a new decision that was the result of very recent discussions between Paul, Lew, and others on the upcoming events in Iowa, so it is no wonder that its not commonly known.

 

[LibertyEagle]

From Joe Seehusen, Iowa State Coordinator:

"Stop this rumor in it's tracks.
Everyone is warmly invited and welcome to the event.
We are counting on a large showing of supporters from around the country, as well as in Iowa.
Thanks ...
Joe"

Received this morning at 6:56 AM in reply to my request for clarification.

Thank you, Bryan!

 

[Scribbler de Stebbing]

Yeah, my feelings were hurt a little bit from all of the skepticism.
It didn't help my credibility that I absentmindedly used the wrong name of the Michigan Chair. =P
Anyways, I would really like to hear from HQ directly what their plans are. Has anyone heard anything yet?

I'm beginning to suspect that there might have been a bit of misunderstanding between the Michigan director and myself.

I'm guessing the Michigan director is either the Meetup organizer or ??? The only states with paid campaign staffers are IA and NH, right? Otherwise, we're mostly a self-appointed volunteer network.

 

[JoshLowry]

Yes.
Honestly, I'm not aware of what Justine does, or her reach on Facebook. Last I checked, I've never seen her post on Facebook directly, and her communications to the group has been entirely second-hand as well. (Usually through Jeff Frazee, or some other admins)

Additionally, like I noted, Paul doesn't seem to be in-the-know about the scope of Facebook. I tried to explain the site to him, but he seems to definitely be more of a meat-space minded strategist. I definitely double-checked with him when we were talking over dinner last night, that he wanted me to relay the message to the Facebook group.

Additionally, this a new decision that was the result of very recent discussions between Paul, Lew, and others on the upcoming events in Iowa, so it is no wonder that its not commonly known.

I've talked with Justine this morning. She will be posting an announcement.

 

[Trevorjustco]

From Joe Seehusen, Iowa State Coordinator:

"Stop this rumor in it's tracks.
Everyone is warmly invited and welcome to the event.
We are counting on a large showing of supporters from around the country, as well as in Iowa.
Thanks ...
Joe"

Received this morning at 6:56 AM in reply to my request for clarification.

Yes, thanks.
I will try and get a hold of Paul today and ask for clarification on the issue.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Trevorjustco:

Justine is the e-campaign coordinator. She is a paid staffer for the Ron Paul campaign. I think the events over the last few days go to show that she needs to be making these announcements, rather than leaving it up to word of mouth. This lack of coordination costs way too much time and needless frustration.

 

[John of Des Moines]

Beware of New Members

It has come apparent to me that several new members on this message are spreading dis-information regarding the Ron Paul Rally in Des Moines. Several members are cutting and pasting old locked threads to keep the rumor going. It's quite a trick to cutting and paste to make a quote seem on the up and up.

EVERYONE IS INVITED TO DES MOINES JUNE 30TH FOR THE RON PAUL RALLY!!! Anyone one who questions my knowledge of the event is acting as an agent of DIS-INFORMATION. Keep posting the fact Des Moines is open to all.

Thank you,
John Kurr, Organizer
Des Moines Area & Central Iowa Ron Paul Meet-up Support Group.

 

[mdh]

I'm guessing the Michigan director is either the Meetup organizer or ??? The only states with paid campaign staffers are IA and NH, right? Otherwise, we're mostly a self-appointed volunteer network.

No, Paul Garfield is an official campaign staff member, and is the campaign manager for the state of Michigan.

An up to date list of official campaign staff can be found at http://www.ronpaul2008.com/contact/