Evangelical Voters: Newt May Be an Adulterer, but He's OUR Adulterer!

[Anti Federalist]

These are the people who truly believe that God himself touched the United States and tasked us with the mission of kicking the world's ass for Israel..



Evangelical Voters: Newt May Be an Adulterer, but He's OUR Adulterer!

Posted by Bill Anderson on January 21, 2012 06:28 PM

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/104077.html

As the returns from South Carolina come in, we find that about two-thirds of SC Republican voters are evangelicals, and the evangelicals have spoken loudly: If Democrats are adulterers, they are evil, but if it is a Republican, well, all is forgiven. I'm sure that the Bob Jones University crowd gave serial adulterer Newt its thumbs up. Hey, at least Bill and Hillary Clinton are still together.

During the Clinton years, we heard from evangelicals ad nauseum that character mattered. Well, here is Newt Gingrich, a man who was banging his campaign workers, demanding an "open marriage," and had the moral compass of a shark. This is the man evangelicals support?

And then evangelicals wonder why people on the left see them as hypocrites and moral cowards.

So, the people who claim to follow Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, display their beliefs through candidates like Newt Gingrich.

These are the people who jeered Ron Paul when he called for Americans to live by the Golden Rule that Christ Himself taught us.

It is beyond me, and I have been part of the evangelical subculture for all of my life.

 

[zippy81]

Nail meet head

 

[Marky]

When did this love and blind following of the Pharisees begin to creep into American Christianity? 1960’s? 70’s?

What’s amazing is these people are railing against the Muslims….a group of people who are:
* The most resistant to the hedonistic pop culture being pumped by Hollywood and the record industry all over the world
* The most family oriented culture in the world
* The only other people besides Christians, who accept that Jesus (Peace be upon him) was the Promised Messiah for the Children of Israel (While the Pharisees rejected him and are still waiting)
* The people who are the best at God-rememberance in everyday life at all levels of society. “God Willing”, “Praise God”, “May God Bless you”, etc. can be heard numerous times through regular conversations in the Muslim world….at the business, academic, and family levels.
* The people who are least concerned with the worldly life and most concerned with the hereafter (at least we should be)

Instead these “Evangelicals”, being led by their Zionist pastors, have taken the side of the socialists, atheists, and the arrogant rejectors of Jesus Christ. Nice.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Big Government, big religion, big business.

The source of almost all of mankind's self inflicted ills.

They hate them for the same reason they hate RP and by extension, us:

Nobody likes being called out on their hypocrisy.

When did this love and blind following of the Pharisees begin to creep into American Christianity? 1960’s? 70’s?

What’s amazing is these people are railing against the Muslims….a group of people who are:
* The most resistant to the hedonistic pop culture being pumped by Hollywood and the record industry all over the world
* The most family oriented culture in the world
* The only other people besides Christians, who accept that Jesus (Peace be upon him) was the Promised Messiah for the Children of Israel (While the Pharisees rejected him and are still waiting)
* The people who are the best at God-rememberance in everyday life at all levels of society. “God Willing”, “Praise God”, “May God Bless you”, etc. can be heard numerous times through regular conversations in the Muslim world….at the business, academic, and family levels.
* The people who are least concerned with the worldly life and most concerned with the hereafter (at least we should be)

Instead these “Evangelicals”, being led by their Zionist pastors, have taken the side of the socialists, atheists, and the arrogant rejectors of Jesus Christ. Nice.

 

[airborne373]

Please ... let this put an END FOREVER that Evangelicals have any moral high ground. They do not.

 

[bbartlog]

Over time it does seem like much of the Christian right has become almost antinomian... I mean, why promote virtue when vice just gives you an opportunity to show how forgiving you are?

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

I don't see how anyone can be "Christ-like" without being a pacifist.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

I don't see how anyone can be "Christ-like" without being a pacifist.

Christ was a pacifist? That's news to me...

 

[centure7]

It would be even worse if it was Huckabee. Much worse. Yeah the guy has higher morals than Gingrich but minimally higher. Huckabee is a guy who said: "Screw you Christian congregation, you aren't listening enough so I will FORCE you to do what I want as governor from my new mansion". You really can't get more hypocritical than that.

 

[Kingfisher]

Please don't generalize and assume all Christian Evangelicals are brainwashed dupes.

I'm not
Chuck Baldwin isn't.

By the way isn't R.P. himself a Christian Evangelical?

 

[RonPaul101.com]

Gingrich should hold a f*ck-your-wife's-best-friend-fundraiser; could bring in a lot of support among the super religious...

It's sad, people who know me know how much I H A T E Obama, but I would volunteer for his campaign to spite Newt Gingrich.

 

[Lucille]

You know how the righty warmongers like to quote bin Laden saying, "We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the difference between us two."

He was wrong. They both love death.

Evangelicals, Ron Paul and War

Evangelicals like to quote a biblical text that God favors those who favor the Jews. However, for them they mean only Jews who make wars and contribute to chaos in the Middle East. Jewish peacemakers are cursed in their view. No tears were shed for Yitzak Rabin who negotiated peace with the Arabs until Israeli fanatics killed him. Indeed Pat Robertson said that Rabin was killed because he was trying to thwart God’s plans.
[...]
Herein lies their antipathy to Ron Paul, who in all other respects is a family values conservative. Indeed, most of them are Baptists who used to look upon Catholics with suspicion. Today they would prefer Senator Santorum or Newt Gingrich, both Catholics, to Ron Paul, who is Baptist. Santorum is no libertarian believer in limited government (he would use government to enforce his social values) and urges absolute support for Israel and the military industrial complex. These evangelicals don’t want peace because it would mean postponing Armageddon. That’s why their leaders oppose Ron Paul.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Please don't generalize and assume all Christian Evangelicals are brainwashed dupes.

I'm not
Chuck Baldwin isn't.

By the way isn't R.P. himself a Christian Evangelical?

Yes.

So clearly one side is not being truthful about what they are or what they truly believe.

Let's call them what they are: Christian Zionists.

 

[alex_florida]

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[ThePiousPriest]

Evangelical Christians are in idolatry. Because the culture in the 60's and 70's lent itself to what many Christians considered "ungodly behavior" and the participants in that behavior sought to control government in that way. The Christian Coalition effectively was the opposite side of that coin and in response to the counter culture. They think that the government can cause people to repent of their sin and embrace God.

Idolatry comes in because Christians are to have no god except for God that exists in three forms Father, Son, Holy Spirit. They give powers to the government which only belong to God. They seek the edification of government in an almost cult like fashion.They worship the so called "wisdom" of the political class created to serve as propaganda ministers for the state, rather than what their scripture says on what to do. We see it in the belief that the US Government has committed no sin abroad and that the state has the greater role in things like marriage, using substances, etc. We see it in an almost delusional worship of Israel, thinking if they support Israel enough, they can build the temple again so Jesus can come back. They believe ultimately that the government provides the bread they live on, and will endorse things as an income tax (even though the rank and file will tell you they are opposed to "excessive taxation").

Christians have forgotten that they are part of the Kingdom of God, and will edify the state that man has established before promoting the kingdom. As a believer myself, I find it hard to follow what is commanded of me to "build up others in faith" when they refuse to listen. I guess the only thing I can do is pray for the conviction of the holy spirit to show the people the error of their ways.

 

[alex_florida]

When did this love and blind following of the Pharisees begin to creep into American Christianity? 1960’s? 70’s?

What’s amazing is these people are railing against the Muslims….a group of people who are:
* The most resistant to the hedonistic pop culture being pumped by Hollywood and the record industry all over the world
* The most family oriented culture in the world
* The only other people besides Christians, who accept that Jesus (Peace be upon him) was the Promised Messiah for the Children of Israel (While the Pharisees rejected him and are still waiting)
* The people who are the best at God-rememberance in everyday life at all levels of society. “God Willing”, “Praise God”, “May God Bless you”, etc. can be heard numerous times through regular conversations in the Muslim world….at the business, academic, and family levels.
* The people who are least concerned with the worldly life and most concerned with the hereafter (at least we should be)

Instead these “Evangelicals”, being led by their Zionist pastors, have taken the side of the socialists, atheists, and the arrogant rejectors of Jesus Christ. Nice.

Yeah, and this is why after WWII in arab-arab conflicts have been killed more than 100 millions whereas in Israeli-arab wars killed dozens of thousands ("Peace be upon..."), stone women ("...family oriented culture in the world"), etc. Do not simplify please - both fundumental christianity and muslim, and any other religion is full of hypocrisy when messed with civil society, politics, government...

 

[AgentOrange]

This is why even though I consider myself a Christian, and fairly orthodox at that, I no longer attend an organized church. Almost all are social clubs that are manipulated by the elite.

 

[moostraks]

This is why even though I consider myself a Christian, and fairly orthodox at that, I no longer attend an organized church. Almost all are social clubs that are manipulated by the elite.

yeppers...absolutely agree with you!!! I also refuse to serve up my children to be brainwashed into whatever scheme they want to pursue such as their endless wars are a sign of chivalry and the like.

 

[Marky]

Yeah, and this is why after WWII in arab-arab conflicts have been killed more than 100 millions whereas in Israeli-arab wars killed dozens of thousands ("Peace be upon..."), stone women ("...family oriented culture in the world"), etc. Do not simplify please - both fundumental christianity and muslim, and any other religion is full of hypocrisy when messed with civil society, politics, government...

First of all, your argument that Arab on Arab violence was at a higher rate than Arab vs. Israeli since WW2 has no relevance except anecdotal. What about the fact that most of the major invasions and wars since WW2 have been committed or backed by one of the 2 major superpowers (USA and USSR)? When was the last time a sovereign Muslim nation invaded a non-Muslim nation? Can you answer that for me?

Secondly, people are quick to bring up the hudud punishments employed by an Islamic state without any understanding. Stoning for adultery is not restricted to women. The punishment is the same for men, and their should be 4 witnesses and no reasonable doubt. Stoning is also enjoined in the Bible too, as I’m sure you know. Not to mention, there are very view Muslim countries that actually practice stoning or any of the hudud punishments. Saudi Arabia, Iran, and some parts of Nigeria and Pakistan are the only places I can think of that practice this. Yet, some would have you believe the whole Muslim world is governed like Taliban-era Afghanistan.

But, I’ll tell you this, you won’t find the high rate of murder and crime, divorce, fornication, drug use, or open sin in the Muslim world today as you see in the supposed “Judeo-Christian” West. That does not mean it’s a perfect utopian land of milk and honey. My point is that it’s ironic that the people most hated by some of these pro-Pharisee “Evangelicals” are the ones who could be considered the most socially conservative and most religious in the world.

 

[ConCap]

A Church and a Political Party are both collectives.

Be “A” political. Either you are for the Constitution, Capitalism and the rule of law or you are against it.

Be spiritual-but-not religious, get a Bible, take it home, read it every day and live it every day.

The Constitution was written for people with high moral and spiritual ideals.

NOT A RELIGIOUS PEOPLE.

This is the true meaning of the "separation of church (collective) and state (Constitution)".

Not a separation of moral and spiritual (individual) and state (Constitution)