Newt Gingrich Evangelical Christians in South Carolina Vote for Gingrich

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It's hard for me to believe that anyone who considers themselves to be a Christian would even consider voting for Newt Gingrich for President. Yet, according to CNN exit polling, Newt Gingrich received a large amount of votes from self proclaimed evangelical Christians. That is appalling.

As a Christian, I do believe in redemption. But, I see no evidence of redemption in the life of Newt Gingrich. When people receive redemption from God, people are humbled by that. Imagine, God sent His Son to die for me and purchased my redemption. That is a humbling thought. But, humility is something Newt Gingrich has never been accused of, as far as I know.

When John King asked Newt Gingrich about what Newt's second wife has been saying, was his response one of humility? I should say not. A humble response would be; "I am a sinful man. I have committed many sins in my life. But I have repented and received forgiveness from God. I hope my ex-wives and the people of this country can forgive me as well." But that's not what he did! His response was one of indignant defensiveness. Newt lashed at everybody. His ex-wife, John King and the media. He did not respond as a Christian should.

Newt Gingrich insisted in discussing the terms of divorce with first wife as she lay in a hospital bed battling cancer. He committed adultery, and eventually married his second wife, the woman he committed adultery with. It is his second wife that has been making statements that Newt wanted an open marriage. She refused. And how did Newt handle her refusal? He divorced her. Then he married the second "other woman" in his adulterous affairs, his current wife, Callista. You can read about Newt's marriages here: http://marriage.about.com/od/politics/a/gingrichn.htm

This is a portion of the article at the above link:
The most notorious incident in Gingrich's marriage ... was when he cornered Jackie in her hospital room where she was recovering from uterine cancer surgery and insisted on discussing the terms of the divorce he was seeking. Shortly after that infamous encounter, Gingrich refused to pay his alimony and child-support payments. The First Baptist Church in his hometown had to take up a collection to support the family Gingrich had deserted. Six months after divorcing Jackie, Gingrich married a younger woman, Marianne, with whom he had been having an affair."
Source: Stephen Talbot. "Newt's Glass House." Salon.com. 8/28/1998.

Then there were those ethics violations he paid a $300,000 dollar fine for, which you can read about here: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/012297.htm

If Newt never received redemption for his wicked behavior, then it is not forgiven, and is fair to ask him about it, as is any unrepented sin. But those so called Christians in South Carolina obviously don't understand this. God still holds unrepented sin against the impenitent person. And there is no evidence that Newt ever repented. Too the contrary, his attitude suggests he never repented. Otherwise, why was he so defensive when John King asked him that question?

Those evangelical Christians in South Carolina are obviously ignorant of what the Bible teaches about repentance. They could not otherwise vote for Newt Gingrich for President with a clear conscience. To receive forgiveness from God you must first ask for it. Once received, you must exhibit fruits of repentance. A prime example of this is the apostle Paul. Paul persecuted Christians. But he did repent, yet he was never was defensive. Too the contrary, Paul called himself, "the chief of sinners." Apostle Paul exhibited humility about his sinfulness, not an indignant defensiveness. And so should Newt Gingrich if he truly repented.

The evangelical Christians of South Carolina might as well have voted for Herod the Great. In my opinion, Newt Gingrich is every bit as grandiose and bombastic as he was. Newt may very well be the most flawed man to ever run for President.

For once I agree with Rick Santorum. You never know when Newt will snap.

If Newt Gingrich is the Republican nominee come November, I would be motivated to work hard to get President Obama re-elected. As flawed as President Obama has been, he is not close to being as flawed as a President Gingrich would be.

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The more Muslims you want to kill and torture, the more “Evangelicals” will support you. Many of these people are completely brainwashed by the hardcore Zionists writing their church’s doctrine. Their love and defense of the Pharisees is blind and unreasonable.
 
The more Muslims you want to kill and torture, the more “Evangelicals” will support you. Many of these people are completely brainwashed by the hardcore Zionists writing their church’s doctrine. Their love and defense of the Pharisees is blind and unreasonable.

You're absolutely right. I have noticed that too. It seems to be a sin to them to want to try peaceful solutions. This is certainly not "One Nation Under God," at least not the God of the Bible.
 
Gingrich (and Romney) got destroyed on morals. Exit polls showed that Santorum and Ron Paul easily won among people who want the nominee to be honest, morally fit, genuine, or trustworthy. Part of why Romney has trouble with Gingrich is that people don't trust Romney either.
 
newt expects to be forgiven for his horrific past, yet attacks Romney for his time at Bain and said Ron needed to "come clean" about his 20 year old newsletters.
 
+Rep to OP

This really began accelerating in 1965 with the passage of the 501(c)3 status for American churches. The 501(c)3 status has as a fundamental principle the twisted notion that government can tell God what He can and can not say from His own pulpits.

It's blasphemy, and the churches acceptance of it is idolatry.

Just as it says in the Word "a little leaven leavens the whole loaf" the 501(c)3 status is the seed of blasphemy that corrupts the entire thing.

90% or more of American churches are apostate. The falling away is already here.

It is indeed just like the Pharisees (the "Evangelical social conservatives" of their day) supported Herod over Christ. The parallels are frankly stunning. There was nothing about Jesus's appearance or smooth pleasing rhetoric that would draw people to Him, only the substance of what He said as it was imbued with the Spirit of God. In parallel, there is nothing about Paul's appearance or smooth pleasing rhetoric to draw people to support him, only the substance of his doctrines imbued with the spirit of liberty.

I'm not idolizing Paul in any way, just drawing parallels, which in the case of Christ-likeness there should be more parallels than divergences, accepting that Paul is an actual Christian (which implies Christ-likeness).

But then God gives them over to their own lusts, to succumb to deception because they had no love of truth.

If a Christian were actually walking in the Spirit, choosing Paul should be a no-brainer.

Remember also, these are the people who booed the Golden Rule.

Fake Christians are fake.

The apostasy is here. The end is neigh. For real.

But I will fight with all I have until the fat lady sings, because that is what is right and proper to do.

The Christians for Ron Paul are working the churches and praying with everything we've got, and we need to keep doing that. That doesn't mean it will work, that doesn't mean God is ignoring our prayers. It means that the 'end' is foreseen and foretold. Events are set in motion that will likely not be altered except for grand national repentance, but given that the American Christians "have no love of truth" repentance will not come. Therefore America does not deserve Paul.

My prayers have gone away from "God, move people's hearts to support Paul" to "God, grant to those who do have a love of truth a Word in season to bear us up and strengthen our resolve."

Even if we know that the Day of the Lord is at hand, and I am confident that it is, I am still fighting for what I know is right, good, and proper. It is Christ-likeness. Christ still fought for the redemption of Israel with all His might despite the knowledge that He was heading for the cross.

The "Christians" who encourage Armageddon because they want to "bring Jesus back" are lost and without the Spirit. I will fight until I am dead or until we win, even with the knowledge of eschatology and what is coming. The Spirit of God compels me to.
 
Wow, I can't rep this post enough.

Well done Gunny.

+Rep to OP

This really began accelerating in 1965 with the passage of the 501(c)3 status for American churches. The 501(c)3 status has as a fundamental principle the twisted notion that government can tell God what He can and can not say from His own pulpits.

It's blasphemy, and the churches acceptance of it is idolatry.


Just as it says in the Word "a little leaven leavens the whole loaf" the 501(c)3 status is the seed of blasphemy that corrupts the entire thing.

90% or more of American churches are apostate. The falling away is already here.

It is indeed just like the Pharisees (the "Evangelical social conservatives" of their day) supported Herod over Christ. The parallels are frankly stunning. There was nothing about Jesus's appearance or smooth pleasing rhetoric that would draw people to Him, only the substance of what He said as it was imbued with the Spirit of God. In parallel, there is nothing about Paul's appearance or smooth pleasing rhetoric to draw people to support him, only the substance of his doctrines imbued with the spirit of liberty.

I'm not idolizing Paul in any way, just drawing parallels, which in the case of Christ-likeness there should be more parallels than divergences, accepting that Paul is an actual Christian (which implies Christ-likeness).

But then God gives them over to their own lusts, to succumb to deception because they had no love of truth.

If a Christian were actually walking in the Spirit, choosing Paul should be a no-brainer.

Remember also, these are the people who booed the Golden Rule.

Fake Christians are fake.

The apostasy is here. The end is neigh. For real.

But I will fight with all I have until the fat lady sings, because that is what is right and proper to do.

The Christians for Ron Paul are working the churches and praying with everything we've got, and we need to keep doing that. That doesn't mean it will work, that doesn't mean God is ignoring our prayers. It means that the 'end' is foreseen and foretold. Events are set in motion that will likely not be altered except for grand national repentance, but given that the American Christians "have no love of truth" repentance will not come. Therefore America does not deserve Paul.

My prayers have gone away from "God, move people's hearts to support Paul" to "God, grant to those who do have a love of truth a Word in season to bear us up and strengthen our resolve."

Even if we know that the Day of the Lord is at hand, and I am confident that it is, I am still fighting for what I know is right, good, and proper. It is Christ-likeness. Christ still fought for the redemption of Israel with all His might despite the knowledge that He was heading for the cross.

The "Christians" who encourage Armageddon because they want to "bring Jesus back" are lost and without the Spirit. I will fight until I am dead or until we win, even with the knowledge of eschatology and what is coming. The Spirit of God compels me to.
 
As I understand it, the government is seen as God's rule on Earth. As it in on Earth so shall it be in Heaven so the laws of man transcend to the heavens. I don't have sources to cite, but my source is Evangelicals.
 
+Rep to OP

This really began accelerating in 1965 with the passage of the 501(c)3 status for American churches. The 501(c)3 status has as a fundamental principle the twisted notion that government can tell God what He can and can not say from His own pulpits.

It's blasphemy, and the churches acceptance of it is idolatry.

Just as it says in the Word "a little leaven leavens the whole loaf" the 501(c)3 status is the seed of blasphemy that corrupts the entire thing.

90% or more of American churches are apostate. The falling away is already here.

It is indeed just like the Pharisees (the "Evangelical social conservatives" of their day) supported Herod over Christ. The parallels are frankly stunning. There was nothing about Jesus's appearance or smooth pleasing rhetoric that would draw people to Him, only the substance of what He said as it was imbued with the Spirit of God. In parallel, there is nothing about Paul's appearance or smooth pleasing rhetoric to draw people to support him, only the substance of his doctrines imbued with the spirit of liberty.

I'm not idolizing Paul in any way, just drawing parallels, which in the case of Christ-likeness there should be more parallels than divergences, accepting that Paul is an actual Christian (which implies Christ-likeness).

But then God gives them over to their own lusts, to succumb to deception because they had no love of truth.

If a Christian were actually walking in the Spirit, choosing Paul should be a no-brainer.

Remember also, these are the people who booed the Golden Rule.

Fake Christians are fake.

The apostasy is here. The end is neigh. For real.

But I will fight with all I have until the fat lady sings, because that is what is right and proper to do.

The Christians for Ron Paul are working the churches and praying with everything we've got, and we need to keep doing that. That doesn't mean it will work, that doesn't mean God is ignoring our prayers. It means that the 'end' is foreseen and foretold. Events are set in motion that will likely not be altered except for grand national repentance, but given that the American Christians "have no love of truth" repentance will not come. Therefore America does not deserve Paul.

My prayers have gone away from "God, move people's hearts to support Paul" to "God, grant to those who do have a love of truth a Word in season to bear us up and strengthen our resolve."

Even if we know that the Day of the Lord is at hand, and I am confident that it is, I am still fighting for what I know is right, good, and proper. It is Christ-likeness. Christ still fought for the redemption of Israel with all His might despite the knowledge that He was heading for the cross.

The "Christians" who encourage Armageddon because they want to "bring Jesus back" are lost and without the Spirit. I will fight until I am dead or until we win, even with the knowledge of eschatology and what is coming. The Spirit of God compels me to.

Excellent post, Gunny, with one exception. I differ with your view of eschatology including the United States. There is nothing in the Bible specifically written to us. Everything in the Bible was written to it's original audience. Everything in Scripture must be understood within it's historical setting.

I have written an article called "The Coming of Christ." You can see it here: http://wayoftruth.motion-forum.net/t8-the-coming-of-christ Perhaps then we can discuss this in the Religion Forum.
 
Today I was talking with an nice elder lady that was 88. She said she was a baptist years ago until the minister cheated on his wife and ran off with the churches piano player. There is a lot more of that goes on than people will admit publicly. Hypocrites vote for a Hypocrite.
 
Today I was talking with an nice elder lady that was 88. She said she was a baptist years ago until the minister cheated on his wife and ran off with the churches piano player. There is a lot more of that goes on than people will admit publicly. Hypocrites vote for a Hypocrite.

Everyday, it seems, I see or hear things that could explain why God is angry with America, and more proof that America is a nation at war with God, which you can read about here: http://wayoftruth.motion-forum.net/t159-a-nation-at-war-with-god
 
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