Entire Chain of Command Could Be Held Liable for Killing Boat Strike Survivors

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Entire Chain of Command Could Be Held Liable for Killing Boat Strike Survivors, Sources Say

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s actions could spark investigations for war crimes or outright murder, sources told The Intercept.

By Nick Turse

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is under increasing fire for a double-tap strike, first reported by The Intercept in early September, in which the U.S. military killed two survivors of the Trump administration’s initial boat strike in the Caribbean on September 2.

The Washington Post recently reported that Hegseth personally ordered the follow-up attack, giving a spoken order “to kill everybody.” Multiple military legal experts, lawmakers, and now confidential sources within the government who spoke with The Intercept say Hegseth’s actions could result in the entire chain of command being investigated for a war crime or outright murder.

“Those directly involved in the strike could be charged with murder under the UCMJ or federal law,” said Todd Huntley, a former Staff Judge Advocate who served as a legal adviser on Joint Special Operations task forces conducting drone strikes in Afghanistan and elsewhere, using shorthand for the Uniform Code of Military Justice. “This is about as clear of a case being patently illegal that subordinates would probably not be able to successfully use a following-orders defense.”

The military has carried out 21 known attacks, destroying 22 boats in the Caribbean Sea and eastern Pacific Ocean since September, killing at least 83 civilians. Since the attacks began, experts in the laws of war and members of Congress, from both parties, say the strikes are illegal extrajudicial killings because the military is not permitted to deliberately target civilians — even suspected criminals — who do not pose an imminent threat of violence. The summary executions are a significant departure from standard practice in the long-running U.S. war on drugs, in which law enforcement agencies arrested suspected drug smugglers. The double-tap strike on September 2 added a second layer of illegality to strikes that experts and lawmakers say are already tantamount to murder.

The Pentagon’s Law of War Manual is clear on attacking defenseless people. “Persons who have been rendered unconscious or otherwise incapacitated by wounds, sickness, or shipwreck, such that they are no longer capable of fighting, are hors de combat,” reads the guide using the French term for those out of combat. “Persons who have been incapacitated by wounds, sickness, or shipwreck are in a helpless state, and it would be dishonorable and inhumane to make them the object of attack.”

This fundamental tenet stretches back to the 1863 “Lieber Code,” the first modern codification of the laws of war, promulgated by President Abraham Lincoln, which held that anyone who “intentionally inflicts additional wounds on an enemy already wholly disabled, or kills such an enemy, or who orders or encourages soldiers to do so, shall suffer death, if duly convicted.”
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Sarah Harrison, who advised Pentagon policymakers on issues related to human rights and the law of war in her former role as associate general counsel at the Pentagon’s Office of General Counsel, International Affairs, said each strike creates potential legal liability for the entire chain of command involved in the attacks. “While the September 2 strike seems uniquely depraved, every single strike taken against these boats by DoD is a summary execution of criminal suspects, people who even if tried in court would never get the death penalty,” she told The Intercept. “Every single strike exposes those in the chain of command to the risk of criminal liability under murder statutes and international law prohibiting extrajudicial killings.”
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More: https://theintercept.com/2025/12/02/hegseth-boat-strikes-war-crime-venezuela/
 
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That's why Hegseth is suddenly all "I had no idea I saw nothing I didn't know"


His "I support the admiral who did it" statement is actually a "the admiral did it, not me" statement.
 
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The government and the executive branch in it's entirety is subject to US law and legal action can still be taken against the executive branch and the department of defense, from those who ordered the crime all the way down to the individual who committed the crime and those who aided in the commission of the crime.

One count of manslaughter per "narco-terrorist" killed should be adequate encouragement to convince military officers to follow the law.
 
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Personally, I’d guess that the people strenuously objecting to this shit are more likely to face charges of sedition than is/are anyone involved in it, except possibly those lowest on the totem pole, likely to ever be brought to justice.
 
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Personally, I’d guess that the people strenuously objecting to this shit are more likely to face charges of sedition than is/are anyone involved in it, except possibly those lowest on the totem pole, likely to ever be brought to justice.

There's no way anything happens to the "seditious 6" unless Trump can convince someone in the military to straight up murder them and claim they were somehow terrorists. Even the indictment against Leticia James went away.


The most likely outcome is that the GOP loses the House and maybe the Senate and that Trump gets impeached for a third time. Will enough Repugnichumps have a spine in the Senate to vote for removal? (Democrats will NOT get to s 60 vote majority though it may be close). I doubt it but it's possible. Trump's minions in the GOP, at "conservative" news outlets like Fux News, and walking bimbos like Tom Cotton have already gotten their lies together in order to justify this to enough of their base.

Lie 1: This is how stop fentynal. (Even Trump's own DEA says the fentynal was coming from Mexico).
Lie 2: They were declared enemy combatants so anything goes. (The Military rules clearly say you can attack someone who's shipreckee)
Lie 3: Because they were tying to "flip over their boat" and "radio for help" and (possibly) get salvage the drugs they were "still in the fight." (This is the most insidious lie of them all. What "fight?" They have not been engaged in attacking U.S. civilians. And despite Trump's hyporbole, illicit drugs are NOT a chemical weapon. Yes they can kill and so can tobacco and alchohol. And again most of othe fentynal doesn't come from Venezuela. That mostly traffic in cocaine.)
Lie 4: The "proof" that there were drugs on the boat and that they were maybe (not really) trying to "salvage" their drugs shows the MSM was lying and the strike was justifiied. (Straw man argument. The main voices calling this illegal have always conceded that there might have been drugs on the boat but it's still an illegal strike. And any sane person on a capized boat would try to flip the boat if possible and would radio for help if possible because...who wants to drown or get eaten by sharks?)

Back to the "seditious 6." The Democrats would be smart to run one of them for president in 2028. Mark Kelly seems the best choice. He won't have the Gavin Newsom baggage. AOC is a joke. Kamala Harris will never be trusted with donor money again. Corey Booker will run but lose the nomination. In 2028 the independents who broke for Trump over a weak VP who couldn't say she would do ANYTHING different from a demented Joe Biden will say to themselves "WTF did we do voting for the orange madman?" A lot of people who stayed home in 2024 will come out and vote to block a JD Vance or Ron DeRacist DeSantis or anybody else the GOP likely runs. (A Rand Paul / Thomas Massie vote would pull in a lot of independents but the GOP is too stupid to nominate them and the die hard Trump supporters hate them for not riding Trump's nuts.) Considering that the right is in an open state of civil war and the Democrats have 2 strong issues to run against in 2026, 2028 (No war with Venezuela and Trumpenomics isn't working) they win the next two election cycles.
 
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