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he doubled the size of government.

This is factually false. Government spending spiked under COVID but we know that is something that, politically, Trump was simply unable to stop from happening.

I think we're eventually going to come to a fork in the road caused by high to hyper inflation. At that point we won't be able to print and borrow anymore. Then we'll have to decide on either massively cutting government spending or going all in on socialism.

I think we're way past that point. The mindset of the Left is well illustrated in unilateral geoengineering. "We're saving the world. We don't need your permission or approval." They already implemented de facto Marxism in the US at least since 2008, arguably earlier than that. Most Americans mistakenly believe we are still operating under free-market capitalism, which is absurd. Almost the entire national economy is under the direct central control of DC. The only exceptions are a few red states that aren't afraid to flip the bird to DC and are allowing actual market capitalism to exist. Beyond that, we are already in full-blown Marxism and have been for a long time.
 
This is factually false. Government spending spiked under COVID but we know that is something that, politically, Trump was simply unable to stop from happening.

He could've vetoed a spending bill. How hard it that? And spending was increasing at a faster pace than Obama's last few years before covid.
 
He could've vetoed a spending bill. How hard it that? And spending was increasing at a faster pace than Obama's last few years before covid.

You're technically right that he could have taken that action but it is obvious in hindsight that COVID was, indeed, one of the deadliest political traps that the Left has ever sprung. It is clear now that COVID was intended to have been the kill-blow that would have knocked America dead and rendered us helpless against the Schwab/Davos bug-eating agenda. It didn't work and, in fact, it back-fired. Pretending that that's "just another Tuesday in the Swamp" is absurd. The Ds were slavering for Trump to attempt to veto COVID funding. They would have overridden the veto (remember, most R's in Congress are RINOs) and then proceeded to dismantle every remaining vestige of legal protections for traditional American freedom. They would absolutely have turned that into the FEMA-camps scenario, starting at the crack of dawn on January 20, 2021. First into the mass graves would have been the Jan 6 prisoners, and you and I would have been a few thousand detainees further down the line. So no, I'm not going to "blame Trump" for not walking into an obvious political trap.
 
You "know" that. I don't.

Then you're willfully ignorant. If you cannot see that COVID was part of the deadliest attempt to destroy American freedom ever launched against We The People, you're blind and I have no remedy for you.
 
Then you're willfully ignorant. If you cannot see that COVID was part of the deadliest attempt to destroy American freedom ever launched against We The People, you're blind and I have no remedy for you.

Don't be so arrogant. Remember, pride goeth before a fall. Especially when it leads you to completely misunderstand what you think you're responding to.
 
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You're technically right that he could have taken that action but it is obvious in hindsight that COVID was, indeed, one of the deadliest political traps that the Left has ever sprung. It is clear now that COVID was intended to have been the kill-blow that would have knocked America dead and rendered us helpless against the Schwab/Davos bug-eating agenda. It didn't work and, in fact, it back-fired. Pretending that that's "just another Tuesday in the Swamp" is absurd. The Ds were slavering for Trump to attempt to veto COVID funding. They would have overridden the veto (remember, most R's in Congress are RINOs) and then proceeded to dismantle every remaining vestige of legal protections for traditional American freedom. They would absolutely have turned that into the FEMA-camps scenario, starting at the crack of dawn on January 20, 2021. First into the mass graves would have been the Jan 6 prisoners, and you and I would have been a few thousand detainees further down the line. So no, I'm not going to "blame Trump" for not walking into an obvious political trap.

I'm not talking about covid. Obama increased spending by 464 billion in his 8 years. Trump increased spending by 466 billion in his first 2 years!



https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/federal-budget-receipts-and-outlays
 
Subjects of sentences seem to be a problem for him. Or, at least, I've never seen him let one get in the way of a rant.

Trump is less bad than Biden, nothing Trump did was as bad as Biden's attempt at forced vaccines, or the war in Ukraine. But dang, he signed off on doubling the size of government. I can't forgive that.
 
Trump is less bad than Biden, nothing Trump did was as bad as Biden's attempt at forced vaccines, or the war in Ukraine. But dang, he signed off on doubling the size of government. I can't forgive that.

They have the country fighting over which of the two worst presidents in history to reinstall.
 
I'm not talking about covid. Obama increased spending by 464 billion in his 8 years. Trump increased spending by 466 billion in his first 2 years!

Inflation-adjusted, that's parity. We just sent over $100B to Ukraine for obvious political corruption, don't pretend a $2B increment in the rate of spending-increase from 8 years earlier is cosmos-shattering.
 
They have the country fighting over which of the two worst presidents in history to reinstall.

But I'm not "fighting over" anything. AFAICT, it will either be Trump or Biden in 2024. That may change, especially in Clown World where basically anything can happen at any time. But given that choice, yes, I prefer Trump. I've explained at length the many reservations I have about Trump, most important being that I cannot find any place where he has made a clear, public statement of his submission to Jesus as Lord. That puts him in the same category as Musk: hopefully a good-guy, but only his actions will tell until he clearly declares his loyalty. On the fiscal side of things Trump was pretty typical as US Presidents go. And given that the office of POTUS is all about using the US budget for economic warfare, it's pollyanna-ish to think that an idealistic Ron Paul strategy would have worked. At best, if Trump had gone Ron Paul, he would have temporarily shut down some government agencies, axed some regulations, etc. and then Biden would have re-opened all of them to great fanfare and would have increased their budgets and passed new statutory laws to "protect the US government" from "rogue Presidential actions", or whatever. If you take seriously the idea that the Swamp is insidious to the extreme, then the first order of business is to deal with the Swamp. The claim of Trumpers (and no, I'm not one of them!) is that Trump had to do it this way to set up the Deep State for a 2024 takedown... that this was the plan from the beginning. It seems like a bit of a stretch but, if true, it really would be worth all the heartache and suffering if we can take the DS down in 2024, once and for all. Is it just another 4-year carrot being dangled by the psychotic DC Swamp manipulators? Perhaps, but I don't have any other alternative solutions to offer beyond preparing for the Apocalypse, both spiritually and physically, because all of these things are ultimately in God's hands not my hands, anyway...
 
Inflation-adjusted, that's parity.

No. It would have been if the government and the defense contractors, Big Pharma and other cronies hadn't gotten that freshly printed loot first. As it is, that freshly printed loot caused these hard times, and those cronies got to spend it like it was still worth something.

But I'm not "fighting over" anything.

Nobody said you were. Though you are a bit sharpish when you misread what people say...
 
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Don't be so arrogant. Remember, pride goeth before a fall. Especially when it leads you to completely misunderstand what you think you're responding to.

Right back at you. You want to keep verbally sparring with me, let's go. I've never fought with you, but if you want to fight for real, pack a lunch and bring a back-up crew, you've never fought with anyone like me before, I guarantee it.
 
Inflation-adjusted, that's parity. We just sent over $100B to Ukraine for obvious political corruption, don't pretend a $2B increment in the rate of spending-increase from 8 years earlier is cosmos-shattering.


You missed the part where Trump did it in 2 years vs Obama's 8.
 
Right back at you. You want to keep verbally sparring with me, let's go. I've never fought with you, but if you want to fight for real, pack a lunch and bring a back-up crew, you've never fought with anyone like me before, I guarantee it.

Trump printed more than Biden. That causes inflation, but there's a delay.

Trump is running on there wasn't such terrible inflation (yet) when he was in office. The only way Trump can end the inflationary spiral (he caused) and make voters happy is by scrapping the FRN. Which, naturally, will be replaced by a CBDC. And there are Republicans, most of the present company excepted, who will beg for the TrumpyBuck.

You missed the part where Trump did it in 2 years vs Obama's 8.

Well, belligerence won't keep it out of the conversation. But it does play into the timing of this psyop in a big way.
 
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You missed the part where Trump did it in 2 years vs Obama's 8.

But the more important issue here is that money, at the DC level, is really nothing more than numbers. Obviously, for ordinary people, this isn't true at all. We're being destroyed by the "game" that DC is playing. But Pharaoh doesn't care how his capricious policies hurt the slaves... "Make quota!" Solving this problem requires that it be acknowledged as a problem (as Ron Paul has), and I will happily grant that Trump has absolutely not done that at all. But part of the problem is that the DC Swamp always flips the script into "Oh, you want the Gold Standard", and generations of American have been indoctrinated in government schools to laugh at that, for reasons they themselves don't understand. And the R's, even the conservative R's, have no effective reply to this. The only exception was Ron Paul because he actually understood what he was talking about, so just throwing a talking-point at him wouldn't fluster him, and he would just use it as an opportunity to explain even more clearly why we need to end the Fed. I don't think Trump could do that, I mean, I think he simply doesn't have the economic acumen to spar at that level. It would be wonderful if we could get someone who has the rockstar power of Trump, combined with the economic acumen of Ron Paul. Point me to that man, and I'll write him in for POTUS 2024!!
 
It would be wonderful if we could get someone who has the rockstar power of Trump, combined with the economic acumen of Ron Paul.

Yeah, wouldn't it? Except rock stars aren't forces of nature. Every musician is just a piano lounge employee until the industry turns him into Billy Joel as we know the name today. Admittedly not every McCain or Romney is able to capture the public imagination, just like with any kind of act. But rock stars are made.

Maybe a self-made rock star is still possible in Argentina. But here not even the Kennedy name can compete with The Industry.
 
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But the more important issue here is that money, at the DC level, is really nothing more than numbers. Obviously, for ordinary people, this isn't true at all. We're being destroyed by the "game" that DC is playing. But Pharaoh doesn't care how his capricious policies hurt the slaves... "Make quota!" Solving this problem requires that it be acknowledged as a problem (as Ron Paul has), and I will happily grant that Trump has absolutely not done that at all. But part of the problem is that the DC Swamp always flips the script into "Oh, you want the Gold Standard", and generations of American have been indoctrinated in government schools to laugh at that, for reasons they themselves don't understand. And the R's, even the conservative R's, have no effective reply to this. The only exception was Ron Paul because he actually understood what he was talking about, so just throwing a talking-point at him wouldn't fluster him, and he would just use it as an opportunity to explain even more clearly why we need to end the Fed. I don't think Trump could do that, I mean, I think he simply doesn't have the economic acumen to spar at that level. It would be wonderful if we could get someone who has the rockstar power of Trump, combined with the economic acumen of Ron Paul. Point me to that man, and I'll write him in for POTUS 2024!!

I don't understand your point. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that we're broke and by far the biggest threat to our liberty is government spending. Just veto a couple spending bills. I'm not making perfect the enemy of good. But Trump is bad. Just not as bad as Biden.

Assuming Trump gets re-elected, I'll be curious to see the excuses of Trumpsters when we get price inflation worse than under Biden. Remember that the root cause of inflation is govt spending.
 
I'm not making perfect the enemy of good.

There is more than one route to error, that is just one of the routes.

I don't understand your point. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that we're broke and by far the biggest threat to our liberty is government spending.

Post-Patriot Act era, no, the biggest threat to our liberty is not government spending, the biggest threat to our liberty is the American Gulag in Cuba and the fact that any American can be sent there without trial, (not even a hearing for writ of habeas corpus!), forever. Springing from this evil root is the entire tree of post-911 tyranny which has been constructed over the past 23 years, including the 2008 Obama Housing Heist, and the 2020 COVID Vaxx/Lockdowns Heist.

Secondly, "US government spending" isn't primarily about Congress. It's primarily about the Federal Reserve, which has an annual budget of infinity. From this infinity-cash, the Fed is able to corrupt and control the entire US economy, in addition to buying up all buyable govenrment officials, elected or not. Which is almost all of them. Even if you could wave a wand and appoint yourself dictator of America for four years so you could "cut the budget", so what? It would all come raging back as soon as you left office, even worse than it was before, because you failed to address the root problem. I'm not saying that's an argument for inaction on the budget itself, it's not, but "cutting the budget" is a 40-year old talking-point that has lived way past its prime. We are many trillions of dollars of reckless QE-forever, and one American Gulag past the point where "cutting the budget" was even remotely close to the top priority in fixing the US government, assuming there is any path at all by which it could be fixed.

Just veto a couple spending bills. I'm not making perfect the enemy of good. But Trump is bad.

You're just assuming we're still living in the golden age of pre-911 Newt Gingrich, "Contract with America" and that all that RINO nonsense. All of that is dead and gone. It died on 911 even though it took a decade or so for that to become apparent to me. Ron Paul made a heroic last attempt to take a stand against the tide of evil in 2008 but the mass of the American public was not ready for that yet, meaning, they were still trapped in the Infinity-$$$ PSYOP. Most still are today, but there is a non-negligible minority of normie Americans who are waking up, as evidenced by the LPMC takeover of the national LP, as just one example. I don't know exactly where Trump fits in all of that, all I know is that all the right people hate him with the fury of a trillion suns. That's significant and that, in my book, is what makes Trump still worth watching in 2024.



Assuming Trump gets re-elected, I'll be curious to see the excuses of Trumpsters when we get price inflation worse than under Biden. Remember that the root cause of inflation is govt spending.

The root cause of inflation is Fed money-printing, most of which turns into government spending (but not all of it).

The problem with the fair-weather RPFers who show up only during election years, is that they expect us to fight the Establishment with both hands tied behind our backs. I'm an anti-State libertarian, I think that taxation is actually evil, not merely because of the harm that it does, but because it is just annuitized tribute. Modern taxation is Genghis Khan in a business-suit, nothing more. Fed money-printing is just a criminal counterfeiting racket. Thus, our economic order is dominated by an organization (the State) who is robbing and counterfeiting like there's no tomorrow, which has risen to such a level as to be an outright war on We The People. I'm no useful-idiot Fedboi who's gonna go put on red-and-black costume and stand with the FBI "Blood Tribe" PSYOP, but the kind of war which they are baiting is precisely that kind of war. You can only provoke the tamed lion so many times before you're going to get mauled to death, even though the lion has no fangs or claws.

When this all started, we were calling it "Clown World" -- you know, keeping it light. "What a bunch of Clowns!" But it is becoming increasingly clear, day by day, that these are not and never were Clowns, these are assassins and fifth-column infiltrators. So, if the "Clowns" want to fight for really reals, it will be their funeral. Nothing can be more certain. The time when polite matters like "budget cuts" could be taken seriously has passed. Since the traitors have gone full-send this time and attempted to strike the kill-blow, the doors will be shut and, once they are, no one is leaving until the question of power has been settled, once and for all. Those who want power the most deserve it the least, and will never have it. Even the power they seemed to have had was all just an illusion, and they don't even know that.
 
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