Enough About The G-d Commercial!

[TVMH]

HQ is aware of the feelings of those that are bothered by the 30-second clip on Youtube.

And unless any of you have done any market research in NH, then I suspect you know less about making commercials for a limited NH TV market than does campaign HQ.

I propose that the best thing to do is let new threads about this commercial die without response.

PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS POST.

 

[Kregener]

I second THAT.

 

[goRPaul]

It's easy to get ahead of ourselves, but we supporters have to understand, we aren't smarter than the people who work for the campaign. They're doing superb jobs, better than any of us can do. They can always use some input, but be respectful.

 

[TVMH]

I'll go ahead and respond since you guys decided to ignore my instructions.

I like the commercial...the subtle beauty lies in the fact that it is, indeed, amateurish.

For better or worse, glitz and glamour is not Dr. Paul's style, and I would bet that NH folks are able to spot bullshit when they see it.

And regarding the attacks on Malkin's site, they aren't doing themselves any favors by insulting people who have genuine beliefs. If anything, the blowback from the insults that you see over there will inspire people to work harder.

They, like many folks on FreeRepublic, come across as condescending, spiteful, and vindictive.

Look at it this way: how many close friends do you have that are openly condescending, spiteful, and vindictive towards you? I'll bet none...because no one wants friends that are condescending, spiteful, and vindictive.

I suggest that we all do our thing, and let others do their thing.

Do you 20-somethings want Ron Paul or someone else his age compiling a video and picking the theme music? Say something from the Glenn Miller band?

Likewise, do you 40,50-somethings want to hear a constant stream of music that you may not particularly enjoy?

We should all focus on our particular arena of influence and let others do the same.

 

[Taco John]

The ad screams second tier candidate. Sorry... It just does.

We're giving ammunition to the enemy with this ad.

 

[Karsten]

The ad screams second tier candidate. Sorry... It just does.

We're giving ammunition to the enemy with this ad.

I like the ad. I agree that there's subtle beauty in it. He comes across as a friend that everybody can like.

 

[TVMH]

The ad screams second tier candidate. Sorry... It just does.

We're giving ammunition to the enemy with this ad.

Ammunition for what? To ridicule us even further? They are going to do that anyway, regardless of the production quality of the TV commercials.

These were real people talking about real concerns...if they were all from NH, all the better (I know at least one was, judging by his accent).

Now, if RP starts running NH commercials in Alabama, then we may have a problem, but I'm willing to give HQ the benefit of the doubt until they absolutely prove themselves undeserving of such.

 

[Taco John]

Ammunition for what? To ridicule us even further? They are going to do that anyway, regardless of the production quality of the TV commercials.

Yeah, only now they have proof...

 

[TVMH]

Yeah, only now they have proof...

Proof of what? That HQ produced an amateurish commercial for NH viewers?

So what? And how do you know that this amateurish commercial will not be as effective as a big-budget production would be? Would you rather HQ spend a couple of million dollars on a single ad that will only air in NH? And do you not believe that HQ conducted at least a little bit of market research before making this commercial?

Besides, when has the truth ever mattered to the MSM?

 

[Anti Federalist]

TVMH wrote:

For better or worse, glitz and glamour is not Dr. Paul's style, and I would bet that NH folks are able to spot bullshit when they see it.

I just watched it for the third time, and I'm here in NH, and I've spotted bullshit, and after trying my best to be fair, that ad was it.

I'm not looking for glitz nor glamor, and certainly millions don't need to be spent.

There are 100 "homemade" youtube spots that could be condensed down to a 30 second spot that would have come out a 1000 times better than this dog's breakfast of an ad.

I've used these myself to convert quite a few people to the message, this thing does...well, nothing.

For God's sake, and I hope HQ is reading these comments in the morning, please don't run that mess, it'll go over like a turd in a punch bowl.

 

[d'anconia]

Proof of what? That HQ produced an amateurish commercial for NH viewers?

So what? And how do you know that this amateurish commercial will not be as effective as a big-budget production would be? Would you rather HQ spend a couple of million dollars on a single ad that will only air in NH? And do you not believe that HQ conducted at least a little bit of market research before making this commercial?

Besides, when has the truth ever mattered to the MSM?

To be quite honest NO they probably didn't do their research. They have failed miserably during this whole campaign to work on such simple things as RP's body language, his clothing choice, and all appearance-related issues. You can harp as much as you want about the "subtle beauty" but there's nothing beautiful about people memorizing canned lines and speaking like damned robots. The whole reason many of us like Ron Paul is that he DOESN'T use canned lines.

If you ask me the last two months or so have convinced me that we have a bunch of amateurs in the campaign and the campaign was never expecting to get big so they picked their staff accordingly. Well now we're a lot bigger than they ever expected so it's time for them to actually step up to the occasion.

 

[Anti Federalist]

15 seconds of searching found this one.

30 second spot, professional, much much better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvzUiOtaFr0&NR=1

 

[d'anconia]

Out of curiosity what HAS the campaign said about the ad?

 

[Anti Federalist]

d'anconia wrote:

If you ask me the last two months or so have convinced me that we have a bunch of amateurs in the campaign and the campaign was never expecting to get big so they picked their staff accordingly. Well now we're a lot bigger than they ever expected so it's time for them to actually step up to the occasion.

Probably.

 

[TVMH]

Out of curiosity what HAS the campaign said about the ad?

The only thing that I'm aware of is their request for the critics to cease and desist.

And I have a few questions for you guys:

1) How old are you?

2) Do your parents/grandparents spend as much time on Youtube as you do? (mine don't)

3) Do you understand all of the steps that are involved in producing a television commercial?

4) Were the Youtube videos you are referencing produced using television quality equipment or consumer-market electronics?

I understand that we each have our own preferences, but in the interest of maximizing our efficiency with regard to that concept, we should all focus our attention on our own arenas of influence.

 

[dmspilot00]

Market research has nothing to do with it. The ad is just ridiculously amateurish looking, a trait that isn't perceived differently depending on the audience. This has nothing to do with being internet savvy or watching videos on YouTube. It has to do with decades of experience watching commercials on TV and being able to tell good from bad.

 

[Anti Federalist]

TVMH wrote:

And I have a few questions for you guys:

1) How old are you?

2) Do your parents/grandparents spend as much time on Youtube as you do? (mine don't)

3) Do you understand all of the steps that are involved in producing a television commercial?

4) Were the Youtube videos you are referencing produced using television quality equipment or consumer-market electronics?

I'm 42.

My grandparents are dead, my parents had broadband internet access for three years before I did, they are now 64 and 62.

Yes, my wife had a video production business.

Makes no difference, the spots could be "cleaned up" or re-shot using high grade production equipment in day, probably for very little cost.

This spot is a disaster.

 

[TooConservative]

Too bad we have so many negative folks here.

One introductory TV ad doesn't make us or break us. It's our candidate and message that will win or lose for us in NH.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Shit...

Thirty seconds of:

Meet Ron Paul, the only real republican

Scroll his record...

Overlaid with stills of some of his rallies that are clearly in NH and show hundreds of committed and passionate supporters.

I'm Ron Paul and I endorsed this message.

 

[Anti Federalist]

TC wrote:

It's our candidate and message that will win or lose for us in NH.

Exactly.

And the candidate is presented in a ghastly manner, with the message missing.