Enoch & the Watchers: The Real Story of Angels & Demons

I gotta go to work. I know you're having as much fun as me, Ronin. LOL Take it easy and chat later. :)
 
Ronin Truth said:
This is not a debating forum. What is my position, in your mind?
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Sure it is. Discussion and debate. and your position is to assert that Angels and devils are mortal creatures from some other planet.

I believe differently,, and as scripture describes them.
 
pcosmar said:
Sure it is. Discussion and debate. and your position is to assert that Angels and devils are mortal creatures from some other planet.

I believe differently,, and as scripture describes them.
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Then you debate them.

Not my position. Again, I just asked the question, several posts back.

I'm only looking for some interesting and intelligent ON TOPIC conversations, and some pleasant, good natured, humored fun.

Like on all of the other RPF forums.
 
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RJB said:
Like being called a Satanic Paulinist? It's less the subject matter and more the technique. Obviously the OP is after a reaction rather than debate or discussion, as he has admitted many times. So I'm humoring him.

If you or Pete want to open a serious discussion on this. I'll lurk but read with interest.
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I have attempted to do so several times in the past.. and had similar results.
 
Sola_Fide said:
Both Rome and Ronin believe erroneously that the church chose the canon.
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You are in error in the belief of the RCC. It claims that the canon was chosen (as they were written) under the guidance of the Holy Spirit working through the Church, as does every other Christian Church. Non Roman Catholics argue that the RCC today is not the same Church of the 300s.

Ronin's claim (as yours seems to be) is that the Church was taken over by the Empire of Rome under Constantine. He believes this led to choosing the canon for (fill in a different conspiracy for each of his different threads.) Where you differ from him (if I'm reading you right) is that from the time of Constantine, the Church was ruled by Satan but somehow chose and kept most of the correct canon that was then finalized in the 1500s.
 
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RJB said:
You are in error in the belief of the RCC. It claims that the canon was chosen (as they were written) under the guidance of the Holy Spirit working through the Church, as does every other Christian Church. Non Roman Catholics argue that the RCC today is not the same Church of the 300s.

Ronin's claim (as yours seems to be) is that the Church was taken over by the Empire of Rome under Constantine. He believes this led to choosing the canon for (fill in a different conspiracy for each of his different threads.) Where you differ from him (if I'm reading you right) is that from the time of Constantine, the Church was ruled by Satan but somehow chose and kept most of the correct canon that was then finalized in the 1500s.
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Council of Carthage, Synod of 397:

It was also determined that besides the Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in the Church under the title of divine Scriptures. The Canonical Scriptures are these: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua the son of Nun, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, two books of Paraleipomena, Job, the Psalter, five books of Solomon, the books of the twelve prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezechiel, Daniel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, two books of Esdras, two books of the Maccabees.

Of the New Testament: four books of the Gospels, one book of the Acts of the Apostles, thirteen Epistles of the Apostle Paul, one epistle of the same [writer] to the Hebrews, two Epistles of the Apostle Peter, three of John, one of James, one of Jude, one book of the Apocalypse of John. Let this be made known also to our brother and fellow-priest Boniface, or to other bishops of those parts, for the purpose of confirming that Canon. Because we have received from our fathers that those books must be read in the Church. Let it also be allowed that the Passions of Martyrs be read when their festivals are kept.
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I see that many of the participants of this thread have been banned. heh.

 
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