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This was some guys car at best buy in patchogue.. Lol... They called the cops on him ... What ever happened to that thing called freedom of speech?? The cops were called to the scene because they said he was tresspassing!!! Unreal!! I was coming out of best buy and decided to chat with him about politics for a little while, he was not bothering anybody!!! He was there getting a slice of pizza, and while i was chatting with him, a best buy employee came out of the store to tell the guy that the cops were on their way. Bottom line is that this country needs ron paul more then ever!!!!

p.s. for those of you who are wondering, it says "dump obama"
 
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Trespassing? Wow they would have heard an earful from me. First of all.....that's hilarious. If that was a Ron Paul thing I would have had a laugh with the guy despite our differences. Second of all..... if you don't like it, mind your business. It's in the guys truck FFS.
 
Wouldn't Ron Paul support kicking him off because of Private Property and enterprise?
 
Lishy said:
Wouldn't Ron Paul support kicking him off because of Private Property and enterprise?
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I don't think that applies to a shared parking lot while he's getting food from an adjoining establishment. "yes pay us for our services, by the way your trespassing" seems like it'd be a bit weird to me.
 
Lishy said:
Wouldn't Ron Paul support kicking him off because of Private Property and enterprise?
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Potentially. But the guy seems to be parked in a shopping-strip parking lot. So I wouldn't think a single store would be able to enforce trespassing, more likely the owner of the property who I highly doubt was informed of the incident.
 
Enjoying your tax dollars = True
Obama throws an all-time record number of parties at the Big House.
 
It's funny because while I was talking to him, a lot of people were coming up to the car taking pictures of it because they were getting a kick out of it.. I thought it was hilarious lol.. Especially after having to pay my federal income tax bill a few days earlier lol.
 
Darguth said:
Potentially. But the guy seems to be parked in a shopping-strip parking lot. So I wouldn't think a single store would be able to enforce trespassing, more likely the owner of the property who I highly doubt was informed of the incident.
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they might have called the management company.
 
Indy Vidual said:
Enjoying your tax dollars = True
Obama throws an all-time record number of parties at the Big House.
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I think it was going after the chronic vacation meme.

But I could see where someone wanting to sell stuff might be afraid it would turn off half of his potential customers.
 
rb3b3 said:
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This was some guys car at best buy in patchogue.. Lol... They called the cops on him ... What ever happened to that thing called freedom of speech?? The cops were called to the scene because they said he was tresspassing!!! Unreal!! I was coming out of best buy and decided to chat with him about politics for a little while, he was not bothering anybody!!! He was there getting a slice of pizza, and while i was chatting with him, a best buy employee came out of the store to tell the guy that the cops were on their way. Bottom line is that this country needs ron paul more then ever!!!!

p.s. for those of you who are wondering, it says "dump obama"
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The 1st Amendment prohibits the government from inhibiting your speech. It does not have anything to do whatsoever with your speech on someone's private property.

Best Buy had every right to tell the truck owner to leave. And if we do not like their actions, we have the ability to stop buying their products and to try to convince everyone we know not to buy their products, either.

1st Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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LibertyEagle said:
The 1st Amendment prohibits the government from inhibiting your speech. It does not have anything to do whatsoever with your speech on someone's private property.

Best Buy had every right to tell the truck owner to leave. And if we do not like their actions, we have the ability to stop buying their products and to try to convince everyone we know not to buy their products, either.

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Wait a second here, best buy was only 1 of the 20 or so stores in that strip mall... Amongst the stores was a pizza parlor where the guy was going to get a slice of pizza,,, so with that being said how the hell can best buy call the cops on this guy for trespassing??
 
rb3b3 said:
Wait a second here, best buy was only 1 of the 20 or so stores in that strip mall... Amongst the stores was a pizza parlor where the guy was going to get a slice of pizza,,, so with that being said how the hell can best buy call the cops on this guy for trespassing??
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It depends on how the leases manage the common areas, sometimes each store manages right in front of them or a particular part but often it is the management company. In which case the tenant calls the management company to get authority, which may have happened here.
 
rb3b3 said:
Wait a second here, best buy was only 1 of the 20 or so stores in that strip mall... Amongst the stores was a pizza parlor where the guy was going to get a slice of pizza,,, so with that being said how the hell can best buy call the cops on this guy for trespassing??
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This is what you said:
This was some guys car at best buy in patchogue
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You must have said it for some reason. I'm guessing because he was parked out front. All they needed was the consent of the property owner to kick him off.

It still remains that there is no such thing as freedom of speech on someone else's private property. Which was the point of my post, since you seemed to be confused about it.
 
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Why do people always attack the ever-so-obvious person that does not even truly have control over his or her position? Obama doesn't run the country, he's not enjoying our tax dollars; however, the fed does.
 
Blue said:
He obviously offended some ill-minded liberal.
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People should complain to Best Buy about their employee's giving harrassing customers over their Freedom of Speech.

The Best Buy employee was probably a little sensitive because of the stupid "re-nig" bumper stickers that went viral.....
 
JamesButabi said:
Trespassing? Wow they would have heard an earful from me. First of all.....that's hilarious. If that was a Ron Paul thing I would have had a laugh with the guy despite our differences. Second of all..... if you don't like it, mind your business. It's in the guys truck FFS.
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And exactly what would you have said. Legally, once a PRIVATE business/land owner (or their tenants) asks you to leave and you don't, then it is trespassing. It doesn't matter what you are doing.

Are you honestly suggesting that people shouldn't have the right to force others to get off their property if they don't want them there? So...if someone came into your apartment and started screaming Ron Paul sucks! from the window, you would have no problem with it? (And yes...businesses have the SAME rights to their propetty that individuals do.)

And Tyler..Free speech has nothing to do with a PRIVATE business trying to protect their own business interests.


This is one of those threads that makes me wonder just how different the comments would be if this story was about someone in the parking lot of a strip mall that houses a Ron Paul friendly business, or even a small office of a grassroots organization for Ron Paul, and they started spewing lies (and yes...as much as I don't like Obama, this guy's message is bullshit) about Ron Paul. Not one single person on this forum would be against the Ron Paul friendly business' right to have him removed.


I often wonder about people who do this anyway. Surely he doesn't think that even ONE person has changed their opinion on Obama even slightly simply from seeing his truck. So all it is is a desperate plea for attention.
 
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I think we are blowing this wayyyy out of proportion.... The guy has a funny car, he went to get a slice of pizza and best buy for whatever reason found him to be a threat to their business....: none of the other business owners had a problem with it only best buy. Did the cops really need to be called???? If you think so, then I want to know why, because obviously I am missing something!!
 
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And exactly what would you have said. Legally, once a PRIVATE business/land owner (or their tenants) asks you to leave and you don't, then it is trespassing. It doesn't matter what you are doing.

Are you honestly suggesting that people shouldn't have the right to force others to get off their property if they don't want them there? So...if someone came into your apartment and started screaming Ron Paul sucks! from the window, you would have no problem with it? (And yes...businesses have the SAME rights to their propetty that individuals do.)

And Tyler..Free speech has nothing to do with a PRIVATE business trying to protect their own business interests.


This is one of those threads that makes me wonder just how different the comments would be if this story was about someone in the parking lot of a strip mall that houses a Ron Paul friendly business, or even a small office of a grassroots organization for Ron Paul, and they started spewing lies (and yes...as much as I don't like Obama, this guy's message is bullshit) about Ron Paul. Not one single person on this forum would be against the Ron Paul friendly business' right to have him removed.


I often wonder about people who do this anyway. Surely he doesn't think that even ONE person has changed their opinion on Obama even slightly simply from seeing his truck. So all it is is a desperate plea for attention.
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For one thing, best buy does not own the parking lot. They can register a complaint, but the guy wasn't even demonstrating or anything, just going into another business there to grab a slice of pizza... Had he been causing a disturbance in Best Buy, the pizza place, or yes even the parking lot, then it could be justified to call the police. But he wasn't. He jsut had a doll in the back of his car, and frankly it doesn't matter why if he's not causing a disturbance or demonstrating on the property.

And who are you, the "desperate" police... It doesn't matter whether you or I think it's stupid or misguided (I see things every day that fall into those categories that are perfectly legal too), it matters that they were unnecessarily aggressive towards him in calling the police and having him removed. Yes, you're probably correct that legally they're within their rights to register a complaint, but I'm not even sure that the police were in their rights to ask the guy to remove himself, when he was not demonstrating or anything.
 
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