Emergency: Iowa GOP Extorting Ron Paul Campaign

[richard1984]

First of all, why isn’t this (the "extortion") against the law? How are they allowed to do this? And, of course, shouldn’t accurate vote counting be of the utmost importance and priority (especially to the Iowa GOP, who will be held largely accountable for any detected error)?

Also, don’t the DIEBOLD machines print out little receipt type things? If this is the case, would it be possible to somehow coordinate all Ron Paul voters to hand in their receipts/proof-of-vote to the campaign so as to have them counted?
I know that’s probably unrealistic. But it sure would be nice! (and a lot cheaper, too)

 

[Joe Knows]

if you intend to vote for Dr Paul please roll a marble down the chute and into the jar. Obviously, its not scientific but if they rip him off badly, we will all know. I actually hope they stifle the vote and get press out of it. You will know by the amount of people and excitement anyway who most support.

That is the easiest way and probably the most reliable.

 

[Birdlady]

Yes, The oppurtunity has been put out there.. and the price is $184,000

It's "Bottom Tier" candidates that scoff at the price.
It's "Bottom Tier" candidates that nag to the party bosses that the system is unfair.
It's "Bottom Tier" candidates that say they are being cheated.
It's "Bottom Tier" candidates that complain of exclusion.

A "Top Tier" candidate would make it his personal resposibility to defend the honor of the Iowa GOP and ensure that every vote is counted, regardless the price.

A "Top Tier" candidate would not worry about himself, but instead would stand up to make sure every vote cast for Tommy Thompson, Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee, and Mitt Romney are counted.

Most importantly, a "Top Tier" candidate would ensure that all votes are counted, espescially those cast against him, so that all Iowans, and all Americans, are the true winners this Saturday.

This could be the chance we have been waiting for.

The "top tier" are the ones running the voting machines, so of course they aren't complaining. Someone in the Iowa GOP must be guaranteeing the poll to either Romney or Giuliani and this is their way of laughing at us.

This is no chance whatsoever to make publicity. Remember all those other times we thought we would make publicity they ALWAYS find a way to smear Ron Paul no matter what. This will be NO different! In fact, if RP gets 100 votes or something (even if it's blatantly fraudulent) the media won't show the RP supporters. They surely won't report that the Diebold machines have been decertified in several states and then RP will be swept under the rug never to be spoken of again.

Some of you are forgetting that the media are in on all of this.

 

[CJLauderdale4]

Look, every aspect of politics involves money. To get your name on the ballot, for counting and processing the votes, etc., etc.

However, the Diebold issue IS HUGE!! I'm in Florida and we bitched so loudly about this after an issue arose in Miami-Dade during the Mayoral election. Missed votes, etc....

Talahassee got rid of Diebold, but have now replaced them with other ones. I'm not sure how safe the new ones are....

 

[trispear]

You would think that your $35 bucks (or Romneys ) would at least buy you a fair count!

 

[richard1984]

You would think that your $35 bucks (or Romneys ) would at least buy you a fair count!

Or they could sell the damn machines and pay for people to count it that way. I'm sure the DIEBOLDS are really expensive. And people would probably volunteer to count votes anyway. It sure seems like we could find a better, honest, accurate way to do this. There's so much corruption in the world today....

 

[angelatc]

Here is my post on an easy way that Diebold counting machines could be verified.

It is not a hand recount but it should be easy.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=11248

YOu should get in touch with the Iowa GOP.

 

[jd603]

there's no way it would cost anywhere near that, I smell fraud already.

Ron should pony up the money for a manual recount.... they are suspecting he'll be conservative and not do that, he should surprise them and do the opposite, especially if there is a big enough ron paul turnout compared to the others that could indicate very good results or even a win.

Edit: ..and they should watch the votes like hawks, the recount should be done publicly in front of everyone, that is the way it is done in my town for the elections.

 

[paulitics]

Guys, I don't know about you but this Iowa straw poll is SHADY as hell. This whole thing is illegitamate. Bribing for votes, using controversial machines when not necessary, strong resistance from the GOP for a fair count, including extortion. The debate, with the smirky Mitt Romney strutting around like a peacock, as he knows it is in the bag. The extremely suspect several poorly written articles this week from professional writers who would not be where they are if they made those kind of mistakes. The media giving it way too much importance. Utterly deplorable.

At first I didn't understand why Ron Paul was not giving everything he had into Iowa. Now I see why it would be stupid to put all our eggs in this basket. I was naive, as cynical as I am, I was naive. Look, if we place anything above 6th place, I am happy. We did it with integrity, unlike the other slimeballs. So, no matter what the results are, we can not give up and hold our head up high. I saw someone say, if we get last place I'm out. That is the wrong attitude. This is not the primaries. This is a circus. We play by the rules, and our message will only get stronger if these guys pull more shenanigans.