Elizabeth Warren puts vaccine conspiracy theorists in their place

You didn't answer my challenge. (and I never said I quit)

It's not game over yet, man. It looks bleak but the game is far from over.

It's kind of funny that you mention it, though. It reminded me of an old movie line that I've shared here a couple of times.

Check it out...

William H. Bonney: You remember the stories John use to tell us about the the three chinamen playing Fantan? This guy runs up to them and says, "Hey, the world's coming to an end!" and the first one says, "Well, I best go to the mission and pray," and the second one says, "Well, hell, I'm gonna go and buy me a case of Mezcal and six whores," and the third one says "Well, I'm gonna finish the game." I shall finish the game, Doc.

I shall finish the game, O. :)
 
No, we think that people who keep insisting that there is any credible evidence that vaccines are dangerous while simultaneously implying that diseases are safe are crazy.

Why don't you just call all of these people "baby killers," and tell them to "stfu," that's what you do here, behind the scenes.
 
The exchange continues, with Warren asking an additional five times about the dangers of vaccines, hearing the same answers: no, no, no, no, and no again.

“Vaccines are safe,” Schuchat said.

Was the vaccine court and the national vaccine injury compensation program mentioned by anyone during the hearing?

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/index.html

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/vaccinetable.html

Or are they like the AGW zealots who simply just pretend that their fraudulent data is never exposed and forge ahead with their proclamations, mad scientism, and carbon tax scams? Or like how so many keep insisting that the technological geniuses in North Korea hacked Sony?
 
By Jane C. Timm

There was a moment at a Congressional committee hearing on Tuesday where the entire conversation about health risks and vaccines was laid bare. Sen. Elizabeth Warren asked a top Centers for Disease Control immunization expert whether vaccines are safe – eight different ways.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines cause autism?”

“No,” Dr. Anne Schuchat said.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines cause profound mental disorders?” Warren asks.

“No, but some of the disease we vaccinate against can,” Schuchat answers.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines have contributed to the rise of allergies or autoimmune disorders among kids?” Warren asks.

“No,” she said.

The exchange continues, with Warren asking an additional five times about the dangers of vaccines, hearing the same answers: no, no, no, no, and no again.

“Vaccines are safe,” Schuchat said.

“The increase in measles cases should be seen as a wake-up call,” Schuchat testified.

But the outbreak has become more than a public health crisis, it’s also become a political lightning rod as conservatives struggle to reconcile their personal views with an ongoing emergency. Last week, Gov. Chris Christie stumbled, saying while he’d vaccinated his own kids, he wanted parents to have a choice on the matter.

Sen. Rand Paul, who has a background as a physician, went farther and said he’d seen vaccines cause “profound mental problems.” The pair of potential 2016 candidates were hit with significant political blowback; Paul recanted and and got a booster vaccine to emphasize it. (Paul’s a member of the committee that held today’s hearing, but he wasn’t present. A spokesman said he was a classified Foreign Relations committee hearing at the exact same time.)

Tennessee Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander, however, didn’t sympathize with the anti-vaccination movement, instead pinpointing parental exemptions as a health risk.

“What is standing between healthy children and deadly disease? It ought to be vaccinations, but too many parents are turning away from science,” he said at the start of the hearing.

Experts on the panel agreed. “It’s this philosophical exemption that’s causing problems,” Dr. Sawyer said.

Asked by Louisiana’s Sen. Bill Cassidy if immigrants were bringing measles into the country, Schuchat noted that these children were being vaccinated (or had already been vaccinated), saying “it’s just these new communities where parents are opting out that we’re quite worried about.”


This is not REALLY a vaccine issue. These are parents who are excessively paranoid of most ALL things government. Especially Federal government. Their poor kids (and the rest of the country) are just victims of these paranoid parents. You cannot rationalize with a crazy person.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/congressional-hearing-real-talk-sen-warren-vaccines

I can't tell if you're pro or anti vaccine...which is it?
 
It's been game over for a LONG time.

Possibly. But now, game over in the sense that there will be no reset button anymore.

Only one thing left to do when the game is over.
Press the RESET button.

If we thought that the the State schooling and propaganda machine was bad enough, forced chemical injections = straight up mind control.

Those who don't go underground won't have another free thought in their life.

That is the "precedent" that is being set. If the State already violates our natural rights for the "greater good," it is the next logical step to remove the desire for freedom, for the "greater good."
 
Death rate extrapolations for USA for Flu: 63,729 per year, 5,310 per month, 1,225 per week, 174 per day, 7 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second. Note: this extrapolation calculation uses the deaths statistic: 63,730 annual deaths for influenza and pneumonia (NVSR Sep 2001); estimated 20,000 deaths from flu (NIAID)

Death rate extrapolations for USA for Measles: 2 per year, 0 per month, 0 per week, 0 per day, 0 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second. Note: this extrapolation calculation uses the deaths statistic: 2 deaths reported in USA 1999 (NVSR Sep 2001)

Why don't they MANDATE an annual flu shot?

Exactly. Anyone who thinks this is about death rates has their head buried under a mountain of sand. TPTB in America don't give one iota about death rates, anyone who frequents here should know that.

This is about control, and a larger plan, not about some huge non-factor like the flu, or measles.
 
Do We Need a Vaccine for Hubris?
http://www.strike-the-root.com/do-we-need-vaccine-for-hubris

There are a lot of heated exchanges going on right now in social media related to vaccination. Many people have become convinced that parents who do not vaccinate are jeopardizing the health of others and that vaccines for children should be mandated. Politicians who are expected to run for president in 2016 are starting to weigh in on the topic and some of them are coming out in favor of mandatory vaccination.

Given what we know about vaccines, this situation should not come as a surprise. After all, we have been told that vaccines have saved millions of lives and wiped out deadly and debilitating diseases. They have dramatically increased life expectancy and only rarely cause serious harm (only 1 in a million cases). Without vaccines, we might see the high infant and child mortality rates seen today in Third World countries. With that understanding, for most people the decision about whether or not to vaccinate their kids is a no-brainer. Why would any rational person turn their back on vaccination?

But arguments rest upon their premises. If we start with faulty premises, then we are likely to come to the wrong conclusion, no matter how logical and rational we may be. So if it turns out that our premises overstate the potential benefits of vaccination and understate the risks, then we will hold a more favorable view of vaccination than we would if we held a more accurate assessment of the risks and benefits. With that in mind, let’s reexamine many of these premises and see if they hold water or if there is more to the story than what we have been told. What if we have been misled?

Potential Benefits of Vaccination
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Risks of Vaccination
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The Vaccine Skepticism Movement
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Friedrich Hayek made the following statement:

“The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design. To the naive mind that can conceive of order only as the product of deliberate arrangement, it may seem absurd that in complex conditions order, and adaptation to the unknown, can be achieved more effectively by decentralizing decisions and that a division of authority will actually extend the possibility of overall order. Yet that decentralization actually leads to more information being taken into account.” ~ The Fatal Conceit: The Errors of Socialism (1988), p. 76

What if health care decisions cannot be centrally planned and are best made by individuals and parents?

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I wish there were a Vaccine for Stupidity.

"Why is the NFL older than the US? There have been 48 Super Bowls and only 44 Presidents!"
"Youre smelly! Your High Jean is terrible!"
"When Jesus invented the Bible..."
 
The common good can blow me. Willingly allowing anyone control over you or your family's bodies is sick. Asking the government to control other people's bodies in the name of the greater good is even sicker.

We are living in the modern dark ages folks. Herd immunity? I ain't part of your herd mother fuckers. Yeah I get riled about it.

Statists are gonna state.
 
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