Elizabeth Warren puts vaccine conspiracy theorists in their place

[NACBA]

just trying to help you evolve.

see that fork in the road ahead?....be careful.

Thanks--I have done some of that

Used to be a liberal union man

 

[JK/SEA]

Thanks--I have done some of that

Used to be a liberal union man

same. Voted for Bill Clinton...twice, to my everlasting shame. Been trying to make up for it since 2007....

 

[PaulConventionWV]

By Jane C. Timm

There was a moment at a Congressional committee hearing on Tuesday where the entire conversation about health risks and vaccines was laid bare. Sen. Elizabeth Warren asked a top Centers for Disease Control immunization expert whether vaccines are safe – eight different ways.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines cause autism?”

“No,” Dr. Anne Schuchat said.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines cause profound mental disorders?” Warren asks.

“No, but some of the disease we vaccinate against can,” Schuchat answers.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines have contributed to the rise of allergies or autoimmune disorders among kids?” Warren asks.

“No,” she said.

The exchange continues, with Warren asking an additional five times about the dangers of vaccines, hearing the same answers: no, no, no, no, and no again.

“Vaccines are safe,” Schuchat said.

“The increase in measles cases should be seen as a wake-up call,” Schuchat testified.

But the outbreak has become more than a public health crisis, it’s also become a political lightning rod as conservatives struggle to reconcile their personal views with an ongoing emergency. Last week, Gov. Chris Christie stumbled, saying while he’d vaccinated his own kids, he wanted parents to have a choice on the matter.

Sen. Rand Paul, who has a background as a physician, went farther and said he’d seen vaccines cause “profound mental problems.” The pair of potential 2016 candidates were hit with significant political blowback; Paul recanted and and got a booster vaccine to emphasize it. (Paul’s a member of the committee that held today’s hearing, but he wasn’t present. A spokesman said he was a classified Foreign Relations committee hearing at the exact same time.)

Tennessee Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander, however, didn’t sympathize with the anti-vaccination movement, instead pinpointing parental exemptions as a health risk.

“What is standing between healthy children and deadly disease? It ought to be vaccinations, but too many parents are turning away from science,” he said at the start of the hearing.

Experts on the panel agreed. “It’s this philosophical exemption that’s causing problems,” Dr. Sawyer said.

Asked by Louisiana’s Sen. Bill Cassidy if immigrants were bringing measles into the country, Schuchat noted that these children were being vaccinated (or had already been vaccinated), saying “it’s just these new communities where parents are opting out that we’re quite worried about.”


This is not REALLY a vaccine issue. These are parents who are excessively paranoid of most ALL things government. Especially Federal government. Their poor kids (and the rest of the country) are just victims of these paranoid parents. You cannot rationalize with a crazy person.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/congressional-hearing-real-talk-sen-warren-vaccines

Mantras, hyperbole, propaganda and ad hominems. Great article.

 

[NACBA]

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines cause autism?”

“No,” Dr. Anne Schuchat said.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines cause profound mental disorders?” Warren asks.

ALEX JONES, M.D. DISAGREES

 

[PaulConventionWV]

To be fair, she is not a complete *****bag or outright war criminal, just a stealth pawn of war mongering racialist money baggers.

Nah, she's a complete *****bag.

 

[Danke]

 

[presence]

Coming to a vaccine clinic near you!

 

[69360]

This is not REALLY a vaccine issue. These are parents who are excessively paranoid of most ALL things government. Especially Federal government. Their poor kids (and the rest of the country) are just victims of these paranoid parents. You cannot rationalize with a crazy person.

Doesn't matter. I don't care about the science behind it or if they are crazy or not.

If they don't want to vaccinate their kids, government should not be able to force them to.

Health decisions are a parent's choice, not a government's.

 

[staerker]

The outcome of this "debate" has the potential to set this country on an irreversible route.

If the government is soon allowed to inject its citizens with whatever chemicals it desires, it is game over.

 

[angelatc]

She does--and by opposing the Fed Audit, she is misbehaving. Loses credibility.

Assuming she had an credibility, this is what socialists are. She wants a government to provide oversight, but not a government subjected to oversight.

 

[DamianTV]

US Media Blackout: Italian Court Rules Vaccines Cause Autism
http://www.zengardner.com/us-media-blackout-italian-court-rules-vaccines-cause-autism/

Links to source material in the article.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Just pointing out another reason to hate Liz Warren

As somebody already pointed out, so says the person with a Fauxcahontas avatar.

Which has since been changed, I see.

You can understand my confusion.

 

[Anti Federalist]

US Media Blackout: Italian Court Rules Vaccines Cause Autism
http://www.zengardner.com/us-media-blackout-italian-court-rules-vaccines-cause-autism/

Links to source material in the article.

How inconvenient.

 

[Working Poor]

To be fair, she is not a complete *****bag or outright war criminal, just a stealth pawn of war mongering racialist money baggers.

But, it does sound like she has sold out to big pharma.

 

[Working Poor]

This is not REALLY a vaccine issue. These are parents who are excessively paranoid of most ALL things government. Especially Federal government. Their poor kids (and the rest of the country) are just victims of these paranoid parents. You cannot rationalize with a crazy person.

So you think people who do not want their children to get incredibly sick are crazy? Most of the people who do not want to vaccinate are very concerned about the health of their children it has nothing to do with not wanting the government to tell them they have to although if it comes down to it I am sure they will have a real fight on their hands.. There is so much evidence that vaccines harm children and adults that I do not understand how so many people could be over looking it.

 

[angelatc]

So you think people who do not want their children to get incredibly sick are crazy? Most of the people who do not want to vaccinate are very concerned about the health of their children it has nothing to do with not wanting the government to tell them they have to although if it comes down to it I am sure they will have a real fight on their hands.. There is so much evidence that vaccines harm children and adults that I do not understand how so many people could be over looking it.

No, we think that people who keep insisting that there is any credible evidence that vaccines are dangerous while simultaneously implying that diseases are safe are crazy.

 

[DamianTV]

No, we think that people who keep insisting that there is any credible evidence that vaccines are dangerous while simultaneously implying that diseases are safe are crazy.

Both sides of the vaccine debate have their own inherit danger. But the "Elephant in the Room" has nothing to do with vaccines, as Governments are just as big, if not more of a threat to the safety of the people.

 

[Origanalist]

The outcome of this "debate" has the potential to set this country on an irreversible route.

If the government is soon allowed to inject its citizens with whatever chemicals it desires, it is game over.

From where I'm sitting, it already is. show me where I'm wrong.

 

[Natural Citizen]

From where I'm sitting, it already is. show me where I'm wrong.

Dang. I never took you for a quitter, O.

 

[Origanalist]

Dang. I never took you for a quitter, O.

You didn't answer my challenge. (and I never said I quit)