Elizabeth Warren puts vaccine conspiracy theorists in their place

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By Jane C. Timm

There was a moment at a Congressional committee hearing on Tuesday where the entire conversation about health risks and vaccines was laid bare. Sen. Elizabeth Warren asked a top Centers for Disease Control immunization expert whether vaccines are safe – eight different ways.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines cause autism?”

“No,” Dr. Anne Schuchat said.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines cause profound mental disorders?” Warren asks.

“No, but some of the disease we vaccinate against can,” Schuchat answers.

“Is there any scientific evidence that vaccines have contributed to the rise of allergies or autoimmune disorders among kids?” Warren asks.

“No,” she said.

The exchange continues, with Warren asking an additional five times about the dangers of vaccines, hearing the same answers: no, no, no, no, and no again.

“Vaccines are safe,” Schuchat said.

“The increase in measles cases should be seen as a wake-up call,” Schuchat testified.

But the outbreak has become more than a public health crisis, it’s also become a political lightning rod as conservatives struggle to reconcile their personal views with an ongoing emergency. Last week, Gov. Chris Christie stumbled, saying while he’d vaccinated his own kids, he wanted parents to have a choice on the matter.

Sen. Rand Paul, who has a background as a physician, went farther and said he’d seen vaccines cause “profound mental problems.” The pair of potential 2016 candidates were hit with significant political blowback; Paul recanted and and got a booster vaccine to emphasize it. (Paul’s a member of the committee that held today’s hearing, but he wasn’t present. A spokesman said he was a classified Foreign Relations committee hearing at the exact same time.)

Tennessee Republican Sen. Lamar Alexander, however, didn’t sympathize with the anti-vaccination movement, instead pinpointing parental exemptions as a health risk.

“What is standing between healthy children and deadly disease? It ought to be vaccinations, but too many parents are turning away from science,” he said at the start of the hearing.

Experts on the panel agreed. “It’s this philosophical exemption that’s causing problems,” Dr. Sawyer said.

Asked by Louisiana’s Sen. Bill Cassidy if immigrants were bringing measles into the country, Schuchat noted that these children were being vaccinated (or had already been vaccinated), saying “it’s just these new communities where parents are opting out that we’re quite worried about.”


This is not REALLY a vaccine issue. These are parents who are excessively paranoid of most ALL things government. Especially Federal government. Their poor kids (and the rest of the country) are just victims of these paranoid parents. You cannot rationalize with a crazy person.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/congressional-hearing-real-talk-sen-warren-vaccines
 
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Sen. Rand Paul, who has a background as a physician, went farther and said he’d seen vaccines cause “profound mental problems.” The pair of potential 2016 candidates were hit with significant political blowback; Paul recanted and and got a booster vaccine to emphasize it. (Paul’s a member of the committee that held today’s hearing, but he wasn’t present. A spokesman said he was a classified Foreign Relations committee hearing at the exact same time.)
Leave it to msnbc to keep on lying.
No only did Randal not say he had "seen vaccines cause", but they couldn't even get the part quoted correctly. And besides that he didn't even recant that statement.
 
Leave it to msnbc to keep on lying.
No only did Randal not say he had "seen vaccines cause", but they couldn't even get the part quoted correctly. And besides that he didn't even recant that statement.

Of course--that's what the MSM does best:D
 
Screw Sen. Elizabeth Warren and her big pharma owned Centers for Disease Control immunization expert.

Not even to mention how the federal reserve turned her out yesterday and put her out on the corner. It was a big day for her it sounds like.
 
Death rate extrapolations for USA for Flu: 63,729 per year, 5,310 per month, 1,225 per week, 174 per day, 7 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second. Note: this extrapolation calculation uses the deaths statistic: 63,730 annual deaths for influenza and pneumonia (NVSR Sep 2001); estimated 20,000 deaths from flu (NIAID)

Death rate extrapolations for USA for Measles: 2 per year, 0 per month, 0 per week, 0 per day, 0 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second. Note: this extrapolation calculation uses the deaths statistic: 2 deaths reported in USA 1999 (NVSR Sep 2001)

Why don't they MANDATE an annual flu shot?
 
Why Is Germany So Calm About Its Measles Outbreak?

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/02/germany-measles-outbreak/385305/

If the Great American Measles Outbreak of 2015 were to have a watchword, it would probably be "selfish." As in, those "boneheaded," "irresponsible" parents whom experts are calling "incredibly selfish" for choosing not to get their children vaccinated for measles. ("Selfish" is even the title of a measles-themed 2009 episode of Law & Order: SVU.)

On Monday, Georgia became the most recent state to confirm a case of the disease, adding the Peach State to a list of (at least) 14 other states infected by the illness this year. What's different about this development, as WBS-TV Atlanta reported, is that "the infected infant arrived in Atlanta from outside of the U.S."
The measles outbreak in Germany is "about 10 times worse than the one in the United States in January, relative to the total population."

This case is rare not only because it bucks the American construction of the measles story, but also because it resembles the ongoing measles outbreak in Germany that, as The Washington Post reported, is "about 10 times worse than the one in the United States in January, relative to the total population."

While the Robert Koch Institute says Germany has notched nearly 400 measles cases since October, the outbreak has been linked in part to "asylum seekers from Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Serbia" rather than "reckless" parents on the West Coast.

Perhaps more importantly, the response to the outbreak in Germany has been considerably more muted. As Rick Noack pointed out, the measles surge "has neither caused a debate about the alleged risks of vaccines nor has the outbreak been featured on front pages."

There appear to be a number of reasons for the relative calm. The first is that Germany has had its recent share of serious outbreaks, all of which were eventually brought to heel. Following a 2001 outbreak, in which over 6,000 cases were reported in Germany, the World Health Organization later set a goal to eradicate the disease by 2010 as cases dwindled to the hundreds. (Germany's ongoing flare-up frustrates its plan of ending measles cases within the country by the end of 2015.)

Another reason is that Germany has a pretty steady vaccination rate of 95 percent (the American rate is about 91 percent). Moreover, half of the cases reported in Germany during the past few months are adults who may have fallen into an immunization gap that started in the 1970s. In the place of parents, as Deutsche Welle observes, some blame has fallen on visitors and migrants, who have increasingly become the target of campaigns by anti-immigration groups within the country.

Health officials maintain that vaccination should remain the agreed-upon response. The World Health Organization credited an immunization campaign for lowering the annual deaths from measles "to 122,000 [in 2012] from 562,000 in 2002."
But the numbers still fluctuate as world events shape them. In 2013, measles fatalities crept back up to 145,000⎯a rate of 16 deaths per hour globally. Last year, there were over 100,000 cases between China and the Philippines alone, the latter of which had its immunization program interrupted by a typhoon. Meanwhile, in the United States, there were 644 reported cases across 27 states—the most since 1994.
 
Hate isn't a childish thing at all, but it's a concept and emotion that has to be reserved and not thrown around as if it was a party favor.
 
To be fair, she is not a complete *****bag or outright war criminal, just a stealth pawn of war mongering racialist money baggers.

I'm pretty certain she knows what she's doing.
 
An expert from Emory University vaccination center on NPR, of all places, said forcing vaccinations makes the most at-risk least likely to get vaccinated. He suggests very lenient regulations and more education, pretty much agreeing with Dr Paul. On NPR mind you.
 
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