Einstein's historic 'God Letter' written shortly before death up for auction — opening bid

[tttppp]

Anyone who attempts to "prove" God will fail. And this is the failure of evidential apologetics, which is why no Christian should use it to prove God's existence.

God's existence is not provable. God's Word is the axiom of our knowledge itself.

You can't prove God because God doesn't exist. If God did exist, it would be theoretically proveable.

 

[robert9712000]

You can't prove God because God doesn't exist. If God did exist, it would be theoretically proveable.

Lol do you realize how dumb that comment is.Why would it have to be provable,your arrogance in mans ability to figure things out blinds your reasoning

 

[tttppp]

Lol do you realize how dumb that comment is.Why would it have to be provable,your arrogance in mans ability to figure things out blinds your reasoning

Maybe you would not be capable of proving God, but smart people would be capable. Either way, I don't believe in God because I have a sound theory of how the universe exists without God.

 

[awake]

You can't prove God because God doesn't exist. If God did exist, it would be theoretically proveable.

God can never be empirically be proven, but logically deduced - maybe.

 

[Sola_Fide]

You can't prove God because God doesn't exist. If God did exist, it would be theoretically proveable.

Try this on: with your atheistic epistemology of empiricism, you can't prove anything.

 

[tttppp]

God can never be empirically be proven, but logically deduced - maybe.

You could in theory prove God logically. I never said proof had to be official scientific evidence.

 

[tttppp]

Try this on: with your atheistic epistemology of empiricism, you can't prove anything.

I would say I have a very good chance of proving God does not exist. I really just need someone with more of a scientific background to work through the arithmatic.

 

[fr33]

I would say I have a very good chance of proving God does not exist. I really just need someone with more of a scientific background to work through the arithmatic.

You can't prove a negative. Ever. The burden of proof is on those that claim they can prove a positive.

 

[tttppp]

You can't prove a negative. Ever. The burden of proof is on those that claim they can prove a positive.

If I can prove the universe can exist without God, that would be pretty good evidence there is no God.

 

[fr33]

If I can prove the universe can exist without God, that would be pretty good evidence there is no God.

Evidence but not a disproval. They can just move the goalposts.

 

[AFPVet]

This link may be of interest: http://spiritualnotreligious.blogspot.com/2011/03/albert-einstein-spiritual-but-not.html

 

[sailingaway]

If I can prove the universe can exist without God, that would be pretty good evidence there is no God.

No it wouldn't. The world could exist without koolaid yet koolaid exists.

 

[tttppp]

No it wouldn't. The world could exist without koolaid yet koolaid exists.

If the universe is infinite, it could not exist without koolaid. But it could exist without a creator (God).

 

[tttppp]

Evidence but not a disproval. They can just move the goalposts.

If my theory is correct, it would prove there is no God.

 

[fr33]

If my theory is correct, it would prove there is no God.

I think you don't understand faith. They would just claim some other super-natural theory that god exists in another dimension or another non existant universe that you cannot prove does not exist. There are an infinite amount of claims people can make that you cannot disprove.

 

[sailingaway]

If the universe is infinite, it could not exist without koolaid. But it could exist without a creator (God).

I don't buy the first. But the point is just because it could, if it could, doesnt mean it DOES.

 

[tttppp]

I think you don't understand faith. They would just claim some other super-natural theory that god exists in another dimension or another non existant universe that you cannot prove does not exist. There are an infinite amount of claims people can make that you cannot disprove.

The existance of a creator of the universe is different. You can mathmatically prove that a creator does not exist. If infinity does exists, technically everything else does exist, so why would I try to disprove it?

 

[sailingaway]

The existance of a creator of the universe is different. You can mathmatically prove that a creator does not exist. If infinity does exists, technically everything else does exist, so why would I try to disprove it?

No you really can't, because you can only prove it by human logic leaving open the possibility of reasoning we aren't capable of understanding. Just as we ourselves cannot create the universe.

Atheism or faith is a leap of faith.

 

[anaconda]

Atheism or faith is a leap of faith.

That's one of the most insightful statements I've ever seen.

 

[tttppp]

No you really can't, because you can only prove it by human logic leaving open the possibility of reasoning we aren't capable of understanding. Just as we ourselves cannot create the universe.

Atheism or faith is a leap of faith.

If you want to say you aren't capable of understanding, fine. But don't lump me in that category or people as a whole in that category either. I can think of tons of things small minded people told me couldn't be done and I ended up proving them wrong because I don't handcuff myself to a bunch of arbitrary limits.