Egg a day tied to lower risk of heart disease

[GunnyFreedom]

Oh, so I'm a "zealot" for advocating for a low-fat diet, but everyone here who advocates for a low-carb diet isn't?! #hypocrisy

LMAO! There is a pretty significant difference between,

"Hey! I tried this low-carb diet and it's great! Y'all outta try this! I'm goin Paleo!"

and

"IF YOU EAT ANYTHING THAT COMES FROM AN ANIMAL, THE HUMAN RACE DESERVES TO DIE!!"

ROFL!

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Since when is selling snake oil caring about your customers? It usually means caring about their bank account. Mercola is a quack. You're welcome for giving you the head's up about him.

Just because some vegan-religious dingbat in the interwebs says someone is a quack doesn't make it so.

Personally I prefer Dr. Group, Global Healing Center, and Dr. John Bergman.... but because they are neither vegans nor establishmentarian pharmacological practitioners, you will call them quacks too.

 

[lilymc]

Not really. There's nothing in eggs that triggers the kind of response that causes heart disease (inflammation). Eggs just offer us a useful and important macronutrient(fat) and litany of micronutrients(vitamins). I know this to be fact because I have a great interest in sport nutrition. Eggs are a dietary staple for all manner of athletes for a reason.

That actually wasn't my point. I didn't say anything about eggs.

I was merely highlighting the statement "most Americans are overweight or obese" and eat a Western diet heavy on meat, etc.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

That actually wasn't my point. I didn't say anything about eggs.

I was merely highlighting the statement "most Americans are overweight or obese" and eat a Western diet heavy on meat, etc.

oic. But the Western diet is also LOADED with sugar and preservatives, which we know without a doubt makes people (and animals) fat. It's in everything. Gotta take that into consideration too when you make any sweeping comment on the SAD diet.

 

[Swordsmyth]

That actually wasn't my point. I didn't say anything about eggs.

I was merely highlighting the statement "most Americans are overweight or obese" and eat a Western diet heavy on meat, etc.

Meat doesn't make you fat.

 

[lilymc]

oic. But the Western diet is also LOADED with sugar and preservatives, which we know without a doubt makes people (and animals) fat. It's in everything. Gotta take that into consideration too when you make any sweeping comment on the SAD diet.

I think that with the trendiness of Paleo and other meat–heavy diets, there has been an overemphasis on sugar as the culprit... Why, because no one wants to come anywhere close to acknowledging that meat and dairy are linked to cancer, obesity, heart disease, etc. So let's blame it all on sugar. Absolutely no one wants to give up their cherished bacon, steak, hamburgers, etc.

In fact, it seems that some people would rather die than even remotely consider their animal products might be bad for a number of reasons. Believe me, I get it. I went for many years avoiding looking into these things, because I loved eating all that stuff. I get it.

 

[dannno]

That actually wasn't my point. I didn't say anything about eggs.

I was merely highlighting the statement "most Americans are overweight or obese" and eat a Western diet heavy on meat, etc.

People are not overweight because they eat a diet heavy in meat, it is because they eat a diet high in carbs (particularly refined ones).

A high fat, low carb diet is conducive to weight loss.

 

[lilymc]

People are not overweight because they eat a diet heavy in meat, it is because they eat a diet high in carbs (particularly refined ones).

A high fat, low carb diet is conducive to weight loss.

^ Case in point.

Carbs are only bad if you're eating things like cookies, Doritos, soda, etc. Eating a healthy, whole foods plant-based diet (which is a high carb diet, of the good variety) is a completely different story.

 

[lilymc]

Meat doesn't make you fat.

I didn't actually make that claim. But it is true that meat eaters have a much higher obesity rate than vegans and vegetarians. It's just common sense that eating things like McDonald's, Kentucky fried chicken, and other greasy "food" (look at the people who eat that stuff… most of them are obese) is far more likely to lead to obesity and other health problems than eating a healthy plant-based diet. Plus, people who eat the SAD are probably on average less concerned with health in general, and exercise.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't actually make that claim. But it is true that meat eaters have a much higher obesity rate than vegans and vegetarians. It's just common sense that eating things like McDonald's, Kentucky fried chicken, and other greasy "food" (look at the people who eat that stuff… most of them are obese) is far more likely to lead to obesity and other health problems than eating a healthy plant-based diet. Plus, people who eat the SAD are probably on average less concerned with health in general, and exercise.

A balanced diet is the healthiest, meat is good for you:

A new study, published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, has found that certain food groups could affect the age at which the menopause starts.
Researchers from the University of Leeds used data about the health and reproductive history of more than 14,150 women living in the UK. They were asked to complete a questionnaire about their diet, then the researchers followed up with them four years later.


Out of the whole group, about 900 women between the ages of 40 and 65 had experienced the start of their menopause by the time of the follow up.
When analysing their diets, the researchers found women who had a diet rich in oily fish and fresh legumes like chickpeas and lentils were more likely to have a delayed start to the menopause by an average of nearly three years.
A higher intake of vitamin B6 and zinc were also linked with later menopause, and eating meat was associated with menopause arriving almost a year later than a vegetarian diet.
In particular, childless women who ate more grapes and poultry reached menopause significantly later as well.
Women who ate a lot of refined (white) pasta and rice were more likely to start the menopause one and a half years earlier, on average.

More at: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-d...edium=referral

 

[lilymc]

A balanced diet is the healthiest, meat is ood for you:

A new study, published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health, has found that certain food groups could affect the age at which the menopause starts.
Researchers from the University of Leeds used data about the health and reproductive history of more than 14,150 women living in the UK. They were asked to complete a questionnaire about their diet, then the researchers followed up with them four years later.


Out of the whole group, about 900 women between the ages of 40 and 65 had experienced the start of their menopause by the time of the follow up.
When analysing their diets, the researchers found women who had a diet rich in oily fish and fresh legumes like chickpeas and lentils were more likely to have a delayed start to the menopause by an average of nearly three years.
A higher intake of vitamin B6 and zinc were also linked with later menopause, and eating meat was associated with menopause arriving almost a year later than a vegetarian diet.
In particular, childless women who ate more grapes and poultry reached menopause significantly later as well.
Women who ate a lot of refined (white) pasta and rice were more likely to start the menopause one and a half years earlier, on average.

More at: http://www.businessinsider.com/how-d...edium=referral

That's what we were told, that idea comes from the same government food pyramid which told us dairy was healthy too, which we now know is not true. We have been lied to.

Why would you think that eating a dead body is healthy? Especially if it came from the absolutely horrendous and unsanitary conditions that most meat comes from, where the animals are pumped full of antibiotics, because if they weren't, they'd all be sick, since they are standing knee-deep in feces, surrounded by flies and disease.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

That's what we were told, that idea comes from the same government food pyramid which told us dairy was healthy too, which we now know is not true. We have been lied to.

Why would you think that eating a dead body is healthy? Especially if it came from the absolutely horrendous and unsanitary conditions that most meat comes from, where the animals are pumped full of antibiotics, because if they weren't, they'd all be sick, since they are standing knee-deep in feces, surrounded by flies and disease.

The food pyramid is not a balanced diet, and certainly not what [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] is talking about. The food pyramid elevates grains and carbs and derogates meat. Pretty much the opposite of what he was saying. Not bad for a straw man though.

 

[Swordsmyth]

That's what we were told, that idea comes from the same government food pyramid which told us dairy was healthy too, which we now know is not true. We have been lied to.

Why would you think that eating a dead body is healthy? Especially if it came from the absolutely horrendous and unsanitary conditions that most meat comes from, where the animals are pumped full of antibiotics, because if they weren't, they'd all be sick, since they are standing knee-deep in feces, surrounded by flies and disease.

Man is an omnivore, GOD designed us to eat meat as well as plants, modern meat may be less healthy than it should be but it is still healthier than what many animals eat.

If you read what I posted you will see that eating meat has been shown to have health benefits, not just in theory but in actual results.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The food pyramid is not a balanced diet, and certainly not what @Swordsmyth is talking about. The food pyramid elevates grains and carbs and derogates meat. Pretty much the opposite of what he was saying. Not bad for a straw man though.

+Rep

 

[GunnyFreedom]

That's what we were told, that idea comes from the same government food pyramid which told us dairy was healthy too, which we now know is not true. We have been lied to.

Why would you think that eating a dead body is healthy? Especially if it came from the absolutely horrendous and unsanitary conditions that most meat comes from, where the animals are pumped full of antibiotics, because if they weren't, they'd all be sick, since they are standing knee-deep in feces, surrounded by flies and disease.

Also, if you are an evolutionist, it is pretty clear from out teeth and blood that we evolved from omnivores to be omnivores.

Also, if you are a believer, then humans used to be vegetarian, then we fell, and then God required us to eat meat.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Man is an omnivore, GOD designed us to eat meat as well as plants, modern meat may be less healthy than it should be but it is still healthier than what many animals eat.

If you read what I posted you will see that eating meat has been shown to have health benefits, not just in theory but in actual results.

I did not see this before my last reply. GMTA! Out of ammo, will have to get you when I reload.

 

[lilymc]

Man is an omnivore, GOD designed us to eat meat as well as plants, modern meat may be less healthy than it should be but it is still healthier than what many animals eat.

If you read what I posted you will see that eating meat has been shown to have health benefits, not just in theory but in actual results.

No, that is absolutely false. Genesis 1:29–30 clearly states that God originally created us all (animals and humans) as herbivores. God defined food in chapter 1 of the first book of the Bible to be fruits and vegetables and food from the ground, not meat! Meat eating did not come till much later, and only due to the depravity that God gave us over to in this fallen world

 

[lilymc]

I did not see this before my last reply. GMTA! Out of ammo, will have to get you when I reload.

Why give rep for a demonstrably false statement? God's original design is clear in Genesis 1, we were herbivores in the beginning. This is not even debatable, even mainstream meat eating Christian scholars will tell you that.

 

[lilymc]

The food pyramid is not a balanced diet, and certainly not what [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] is talking about. The food pyramid elevates grains and carbs and derogates meat. Pretty much the opposite of what he was saying. Not bad for a straw man though.

I didn't say that that was his argument, I was merely saying that his idea that meat is healthy comes from the lie we've been told, which was in that food pyramid.

 

[Swordsmyth]

No, that is absolutely false. Genesis 1:29–30 clearly states that God originally created us all (animals and humans) as herbivores. God defined food in chapter 1 of the first book of the Bible to be fruits and vegetables and food from the ground, not meat! Meat eating did not come till much later, and only due to the depravity that God gave us over to in this fallen world

29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

But in Genesis 4 they were already keeping flocks and GOD approved:


4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

GOD designed man to be able to eat meat after the fall, he foresaw the possibility and possibly would have sent Adam and Eve out of the garden eventually after teaching them more.

In any case we are living in the post-flood world and GOD told Noah in chapter 9:


3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

Clearly by then something had changed and meat was necessary.