Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, working out with friend, called Boston Bombs "crazy" and "tragedies"

Yes I was being serious. I have not kept up with every single fact as it has come out. The way to know what's going on is to search for and/or provide sourced facts as opposed to snark.

Correct, we need a timeline, with labels of conjecture or fact for each release of info. There were things said that were false, but even the false info is pertinent (such as why they shut down the courthouse after saying they had a "right wing radical"?), etc...

edit: Has anyone out there started a "wiki" on this? It allows a conversation backpage as well as editing. (I don't mean a Wikipedia page, but a separate wiki app.)
 
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WTF? So the brothers pull of the bombing, get clean away, one is working out with friends, cover is totally in tact, and they then decide to set off another attack in the same area when they know the place has to be crawling with feds? This all makes no sense.

To be fair, they may have expected to get caught eventually and just didn't know when.
 
WTF? So the brothers pull of the bombing, get clean away, one is working out with friends, cover is totally in tact, and they then decide to set off another attack in the same area when they know the place has to be crawling with feds? This all makes no sense.

The way I understood things they did not attempt another attack. They were intercepted after they jacked a car and dropped the owner off us at a 7/11, then they started to be pursued using the car's GPS, but it was only later when CCTV was reviewed and the car owner's statement taken, that it was realized who it was they were chasing. I assume they jacked the car after their pictures were plastered all over TV.

I heard it suggested that they were trying to set something up at MIT but I haven't seen any evidence of that.

I may have this all wrong, but that is the impression I got while it was all going on.

What I am saying is that actually their behavior was not out of the ordinary given the progress of events, except it is a bit strange that they went back to their routine and had this conversation with a friend, that is a bit strange, could be an attempt to blend back in and try to get away with it, but they must have known they would be identified. Unless, as has been suggested, they were waiting for their car to be fixed, but had to make a run for it when they saw their pictures.

Anyway, someone correct me if I am wrong, I think that this is how it seems anyway.
 
Where did these two boys go to school? I thought I had read it was at the University of Massachusetts... if that is correct, then they went to school in Amherst, correct? Isn't that about 100 miles away?

If so, and they're reported at school after the bombings, then why the hell did they go back to Boston when they could have fled north after their faces were plastered everywhere.

Why would they carjack and rob a 7/11? That makes no sense.

I haven't followed this as it was breaking and now I'm confused.
 
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I can't believe Bob Dylan was behind all this.

Dylan is part Russian...
and if the kid wore shades
he'd look more like the
iconic 60s rocker than the
"celebs" did who played
him in that curious bio-flic!
Dylan is Bobby Zimmerman
under a poetical name change.
his stage name avoids how
Jewish his background is...
 
Correct, we need a timeline, with labels of conjecture or fact for each release of info. There were things said that were false, but even the false info is pertinent (such as why they shut down the courthouse after saying they had a "right wing radical"?), etc...

edit: Has anyone out there started a "wiki" on this? It allows a conversation backpage as well as editing. (I don't mean a Wikipedia page, but a separate wiki app.)

That's a great idea actually! This place used to have a wiki, but that part has now been converted to a subforum. I was thinking the other day of writing a new app that's somewhere between a wiki and a forum. The stuff coming out via Twitter and other feeds was dizzying. And then you had comments on top of comments on top of info. It would be nice to be able to collate stuff without slowing down the pace.
 
Without sourcing it would seem that the photos were released Thursday afternoon though the suspects were not named at that time. The MIT attack came later that evening. According to this ABC timeline.

That was my recollection of the timeline.
 
Perhaps it would have been better for them to admit it at the gym? "Oh yeah- great work by the bombers! See- we are on TV!"

How else would one expect any body to respond- whether or not they were involved? "Awesome thing that was!"
 
Where did these two boys go to school? I thought I had read it was at the University of Massachusetts... if that is correct, then they went to school in Amherst, correct? Isn't that about 100 miles away?

If so, and they're reported at school after the bombings, then why the hell did they go back to Boston when they could have fled north after their faces were plastered everywhere.

Why would they carjack and rob a 7/11? That makes no sense.

I haven't followed this as it was breaking and now I'm confused.


I think I heard UMass Dartmouth. I google mapped it and it is 66 miles from MIT. Strange indeed.
 
Where did these two boys go to school? I thought I had read it was at the University of Massachusetts... if that is correct, then they went to school in Amherst, correct? Isn't that about 100 miles away?

If so, and they're reported at school after the bombings, then why the hell did they go back to Boston when they could have fled north after their faces were plastered everywhere.

Why would they carjack and rob a 7/11? That makes no sense.

I haven't followed this as it was breaking and now I'm confused.

It has all been so crazy that lots of rumours were flying. Many turn out to not be true. Apparently they didn't rob a 7-11 store.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/19/7-eleven-robbery-boston/2097915/

There was a 7-Eleven robbery in Cambridge last night, but it had nothing to do with the Boston Marathon bombing suspects.

Margaret Chabris, the director of corporate communication at 7- Eleven, says the surveillance video of the crime was not taken at a 7-Eleven and that the suspect that did rob the 7-Eleven does not look like Tamerlan or Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

"The suspect in the photos for that particular 7-Eleven robbery looks nothing like the suspects," Chabris says. "The police or someone made a mistake. Someone was confused."

The suspects were at the 7-Eleven around the time of the robbery but they did not rob the store said, State Police Superintendent Timothy Alban at an evening press conference on Friday.

They were spotted on the security tape viewed after the robbery because they were in that store but weren't the robbers.

The younger brother attended school at UMass Dartmouth:
http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...thon-bomber/YcEDA5nvNDi0T1jJTNjKiP/story.html

DARTMOUTH -- The UMass Dartmouth campus closed abruptly early this morning after school officials realized the younger of the two men authorities said were responsible for the Boston Marathon bombing is a student there. The campus remained on lockdown this afternoon, with armed police blocking the main entrance.

The shutdown was staggered – first the dorm, and then the whole campus. Students living on campus were evacuated to Dartmouth High School.

The student, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, is the subject of an intense manhunt; his brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, was killed early this morning in a shootout with police.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had passed an apparently normal day at the school Wednesday, according to a UMass official, working out at the gym, then sleeping in his single-unit room at the Pine Dale Hall dorm that night, while law enforcement officials were frantically scanning photos and video trying to identify him and his brother.

School officials know he was there Wednesday because of card swipes, but it was not clear if he had been there earlier. He was described as good, typical student who played intramural soccer.

A student, who didn’t want to be identified, said she saw Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at a party Wednesday night that was attended by some of his friends with whom he played intramural soccer.

“He was just relaxed,” she said.
 
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Perhaps it would have been better for them to admit it at the gym? "Oh yeah- great work by the bombers! See- we are on TV!"

How else would one expect any body to respond- whether or not they were involved? "Awesome thing that was!"
that's just it, i wouldn't be at the gym. i'd be as far away from the manhunt as possible. and if i didn't leave the area, i sure as hell wouldn't be mucking it up with people, just in case they started showing pictures of potential suspects on tv. if you do something like blow up a bunch of people- smart money is on laying low.
 
you'd have to be anti-social to have blown up a bunch of people and then act like nothing happen, especially when talking to other people about it.
 
So one went to school in Dartmouth, MA (older) and one went to school in Amherst, MA (younger)? Both between 70 and 90 miles away from Boston (about 1.25 hours per Google Maps).

Why go back into Boston after having your picture plastered all over the news? It's easy to get to New Hampshire, Vermont or Maine (and thus into Canada) from either of those locations.

I know I'm asking unanswerable questions, but their actions don't make sense to me. If it was clear they were being identified as the culprits... and if you're the culprit, you're paying attention, then why not go and hide? North of them is wilderness and Canada and escape, but yet, they went running right into the lions mouth.
 
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That was my recollection of the timeline.

That would be corrrect- photos were released Thursday April 18th.
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2013/04/boston-bombing-suspect-photos-released/100499/

Boston Bombing Suspect Photos Released

Apr 18, 2013

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has released a set of photographs and a video of two men, identifying them as suspects in the Boston Marathon bombing and asking for public help in finding them.

The MIT shooting and later shootout was that night. Article posted the next day about the night's events:
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...pects-boston-bombing-killed-manhunt-continues
1 of 2 suspects in Boston bombing killed as manhunt continues

One police officer has been killed and another is in critical condition, police say.

Posted: April 19, 2013 - 12:21am

WATERTOWN, Mass. (AP) — With the city virtually paralyzed, thousands of officers with rifles and armored vehicles swarmed the streets in and around Boston on Friday, hunting for a 19-year-old college student wanted in the Boston Marathon bombing after his older brother and alleged accomplice was killed in a furious getaway attempt overnight.

During the long night of violence, the brothers killed an MIT police officer, severely wounded another lawman and hurled explosives at police in a car chase and gun battle, authorities said.


Read more at Jacksonville.com: http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/...ombing-killed-manhunt-continues#ixzz2RDbJQOA1
 
So one went to school in Dartmouth, MA (older) and one went to school in Amherst, MA (younger)?

Why go back into Boston after having your picture plastered all over the news? It's easy to get to New Hampshire, Vermont or Maine (and thus into Canada) from either of those locations.

I know I'm asking unanswerable questions, but their actions don't make sense to me.

I don't believe the older one was in school (he was 26). The younger one went to UMass Dartmouth. http://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1T4...=X&ei=mIJ1UeCiIcXE4AO_mYDwBw&ved=0CIwBEPwSMAQ
 
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I don't believe the older one was in school (he was 26). The younger one went to UMass Dartmouth. http://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1T4...=X&ei=mIJ1UeCiIcXE4AO_mYDwBw&ved=0CIwBEPwSMAQ

Where did the older one live? Did he also live in Dartmouth? That's 62.6 miles away from Boston, why return?

They could have done this: http://goo.gl/maps/uRD8W and avoided major highways and been in Montreal in 9+ hours. Hell, I'm sure you could hoof it through the woods and completely avoid checkpoints as well.

Why wouldn't they have contingency plans to escape?
 
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Perhaps it would have been better for them to admit it at the gym? "Oh yeah- great work by the bombers! See- we are on TV!"

How else would one expect any body to respond- whether or not they were involved? "Awesome thing that was!"


lol. Agree. If he did it, and if pics of him weren't circulating, and he thought he was in the clear, it would make sense for him to move on with life as normal.
 
lol. Agree. If he did it, and if pics of him weren't circulating, and he thought he was in the clear, it would make sense for him to move on with life as normal.

You don't move on with life as normal less than a week out from bombing the Boston Marathon. You remain alert to any change in the situation and have your escape plan ready to go.
 
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