Dutch farmer protests

Today the farmers blocked several highways by dumping dirt, hay bales, etc. Unannounced. Even though it's the summer vacation period, there were a lot of delays today.





If people can be severely inconvenienced enough, for long enough, the farmers stand a chance.

The farmers will need the conviction to continue with it for as long as needed.... despite rapidly increasing punishments for participating.
 
If people can be severely inconvenienced enough, for long enough, the farmers stand a chance.

The farmers will need the conviction to continue with it for as long as needed.... despite rapidly increasing punishments for participating.

They have the conviction and there are no rapidly increasing punishments for participating. There have always been fines for dumping stuff on the highway.
 
They have the conviction and there are no rapidly increasing punishments for participating. There have always been fines for dumping stuff on the highway.

If there are no rapidly increasing punishments for participating, then either the people aren't inconvenienced enough, or they haven't done it long enough.
 
There appears to be some movement. Three of the four coalition parties (the required majority to rule) are now saying; maybe we should tone down a bit. Waiting is for the 4th coalition party, the one with the extreme views that really does not like the farmers (D66). They probably will not agree. Since the other parties would like to be re-elected, it's the opportune moment to save their face. The cabinet (government) is down to 41 seats in the polls, out of 150. They need 76 for a majority. Dumping their coalition partner now (this means new elections), might gain them back some seats. For everyone that did not believe me that non-violent protests and persistence can't work, they definitely can and will; this shows it. However, in many cases the majority of the support drops away when promises are made... The protestors do not follow through until it's fully settled, that's what is going wrong. Not just here.
 
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First cracks in the government are appearing. The party that traditionally would get the farmers' votes is all but annihilated in the polls. So the party leader put a bomb under the government by saying the goalposts of the nitrogen policies should be moved. Where the other parties say there is no discussion on the goals. The farmers probably are smart enough not to vote for these sell-outs again but given that they're politicians they will try to pander to the farmers heavily. Hopefully they blow up the coalition and we get to vote twice in spring next year.
 
Dutch Government Plans Confiscate Land from Farmers Using Nitrogen ‘Crisis’ as Excuse

GBN
October 13, 2022


Eva Vlaardingerbroek, reporting from the Netherlands, said that the Dutch government has plans to force 600 farmers to sell their land and get out of the farming business in the next year. Some farms have been in families for generations. She said that the government’s claim of a nitrogen crisis is actually a manufactured crisis used to expropriate the land. She indicated that the land will be used to aid the housing crisis caused by mass immigration. She added that the ruling elite don’t want people to have an independent food supply or eat meat. She railed against the government trying to take away people’s rights, their property, damaging the food supply and the danger of rising fuel costs to prevent freezing to death this winter. The leftist media vilifies farmers and protesters as ‘racist.’


Article and video:

https://needtoknow.news/2022/10/dut...from-farmers-using-nitrogen-crisis-as-excuse/
 
Dutch farmers should tell their government to pound sand. Under no circumstances should they give up their land.
 
There are already one or two topics on this.

When we talk about a manufactured crisis, it means the following.

-0% of The Netherlands is 'original', every piece of land at some point has been cultivated.
-The EU says nature needs to be protected.
-Politicians at some point (some 20 years ago) decided what nature is.
-Now we governmental OCD in keeping 'nature' exactly the same way it is.

Simplest example, if you have an infertile piece of sandy soil, plants are not allowed to grow on it.

Try to bring up the same argument with immigration and you're a racist.
 
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Dutch Farmer Revolt Unravelling

By Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.
October 17, 2022

Oct 15, 2022 The Dutch farmers are losing their battle against the globalist WEF and these draconian environmental policies.

Over 17,000 farmers in the Netherlands are being affected.

The story doesn’t end there because it’s crushing farmers from Germany to New Zealand. Academic Researcher Ralph Schoellhammer joins us to dissect the latest developments.

 
Netherlands to close up to 3,000 farms to comply with EU rules
Government tries to cut down on nitrogen pollution in a move set to reignite tensions with farmers who say the industry is unfairly targeted
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/11/28/netherlands-close-3000-farms-comply-eu-rules/
[archive link: https://archive.ph/ndwF6]​
James Crisp (28 November 2022)

The Dutch government plans to buy and close down up to 3,000 farms near environmentally sensitive areas to comply with EU nature preservation rules.

The Netherlands is attempting to cut down its nitrogen pollution and will push ahead with compulsory purchases if not enough farms take up the offer voluntarily.

Farmers will be offered a deal “well over” the worth of the farm, according to the government plan that is targeting the closure of 2,000 to 3,000 farms or other major polluting businesses.

Earlier leaked versions of the plan put the figure at 120 per cent of the farm’s value but that figure has not yet been confirmed by ministers.

“There is no better offer coming,” Christianne van der Wal, nitrogen minister, told MPs on Friday. She said compulsory purchases would be made with “pain in the heart”, if necessary.

Biodiversity under threat

The Netherlands needs to reduce its emissions to comply with EU conservation rules and agriculture is responsible for almost half the nitrogen emitted in the proud farming nation.

The Dutch environment agency has warned that native species are disappearing faster in the Netherlands than in the rest of Europe and that biodiversity is under threat.

But the new plan looks set to reignite tensions with farmers over nitrogen reduction.

Dutch farmers have staged mass protests, burnt hay bales, dumped manure on highways and picketed ministers' houses over the last three years.

In 2019 a ruling by the Dutch Council of State meant every new activity that emits nitrogen, including farming and building, needs a permit.

That has prevented the expansion of dairy, pig and poultry farms, which are major sources of nitrogen from ammonia in manure mixed with urine. This can be harmful for nature when it washes into rivers and the sea.

Last month, an army of thousands of tractors took to the roads in protest and caused the worst rush hour in Dutch history with 700 miles of jams at its peak.

Farmers fear that the plan to slash emissions by 2030 will cost them their livelihoods, oppose any compulsory purchases and argue farming is unfairly targeted while other sectors such as aviation are not.

‘Restrictions without perspective’

Farmers’ lobby group LTO Nederland said trust in the government “has been very low for a long time”. It accused the Government of drafting “restrictions without perspective”.

Sjaak van der Tak, chairman of LTO, said: “Of course it is positive that a good voluntary stop scheme is being promised. But the stayers who are central to us will have many additional restrictions imposed.”

Agractie, another farmers’ organisation, said the voluntary closure scheme was welcome but must not be applied with the threat of compulsory purchase.

Ministers will decide if enough farms have come forward voluntarily to close in the autumn. They say the plan will help biodiversity recover, building could resume and farms without proper nitrogen permits could be legalised.

They are also looking at eventually taxing nitrogen emissions to encourage more sustainable practices, the Dutch News website reported.

The Dutch cabinet also wants to draw up a long term plan for the future of agriculture with farmers, environmental groups and local government.

The voluntary buyout scheme was “the only way to finally create opportunities for the construction of homes, the construction of new infrastructure and for projects to make the Netherlands more sustainable in the shortest possible time,” said Ingrid Thijssen, chairman of VNO-NCW, an employers’ federation in the Netherlands.

Last month, the Netherlands Assessment Agency said other buyout schemes over the last 25 years had failed to substantially cut the number of cattle.
 
“the only way to finally create opportunities for the construction of homes, the construction of new infrastructure and for projects to make the Netherlands more sustainable in the shortest possible time,”

This is the important part, it's not about nature...
 
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