'Duck Dynasty' star makes anti-gay comments; GLAAD slams

[otherone]

Anyway, if fornication requires two people and bestiality only includes one...I'm not sure which one would be Biblically worse. Seriously, I don't know.

You wrote before:

Anyway, does that make Richard Gere any "worse" of a sinner than say Rock Hudson?

It is my understanding that we are all sinners, on an equal footing, and that it is not our place to judge the gravity of our sin, but Gods. So in your example, you, me, Rock Hudson, and Richard Gere are all simply sinners. Is this accurate, bibliclaly, or no?

 

[Voluntarist]

If someone is a serious way came out on national TV and said

"I do not understand ginger people, they have really pale skin that looks like it will peel if you rub on it, they have really unsightly freckles everywhere on their body and the hair color is just very unnatural and creepy. I just think they should marry each other and keep to themselves, but I love them all"

A couple of Gs, an R and an E, an I and an N
Just six little letters all jumbled together
Have caused damage that we may never mend
And it's important that we all respect
That if these people should happen to choose
To reclaim the word as their own
It doesn't meant the rest of you have a right to it's use.
...
So never underestimate
The power that language imparts
Sticks and stones may break your bones
But words can break hearts
A couple of Gs - jeez, unless you've had to live it
An R and an E - even I am careful with it
An I and an N - and in the end it will only offend
Don't want to have to spell it out again

Only a Ginger, can call another Ginger "Ginger"

 

[jmdrake]

You wrote before:

It is my understanding that we are all sinners, on an equal footing, and that it is not our place to judge the gravity of our sin, but Gods. So in your example, you, me, Rock Hudson, and Richard Gere are all simply sinners. Is this accurate, bibliclaly, or no?

Sure. I don't look down on people like Richard Gere. I thought I was clear on that. Sorry if I wasn't. Again, I wouldn't be shocked if someone in one of the support groups I've been to had actually tried that. I wouldn't think that made me any better than him.

 

[PRB]

How did you jump from bestiality to raping children?

Because all sins are equal, according to somebody.

Straw man argument that's really not even worth a response. I wasn't questioning whether all sins were equal. I was questioning why the "sin" of bestiality is necessarily worse than the "sin" of homsexuality. For a reference, actor Richard Gere once had to go to the hospital to have a gerbil extracted from...well I'd rather not mention it. Anyway, does that make Richard Gere any "worse" of a sinner than say Rock Hudson?

Animals have no rights, so whatever you do to animals is more acceptable than the same done to humans.

 

[PRB]

Sure. I don't look down on people like Richard Gere. I thought I was clear on that. Sorry if I wasn't. Again, I wouldn't be shocked if someone in one of the support groups I've been to had actually tried that. I wouldn't think that made me any better than him.

do you think of yourself as better than rapists and murderers? I sure do.

 

[PRB]

You wrote before:


It is my understanding that we are all sinners, on an equal footing, and that it is not our place to judge the gravity of our sin, but Gods. So in your example, you, me, Rock Hudson, and Richard Gere are all simply sinners. Is this accurate, bibliclaly, or no?

what does that mean in practice? that rapists, liars and murderers have the same chance of going to heaven?

 

[otherone]

what does that mean in practice? that rapists, liars and murderers have the same chance of going to heaven?

Are you God's accountant? Ask Him, not me. I can only be concerned with my own sin...this isn't a competition. In regards to feeling superior to rapists or murderers....good for you!
Proverbs 16:18
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

 

[otherone]

Sure. I don't look down on people like Richard Gere. I thought I was clear on that. Sorry if I wasn't. Again, I wouldn't be shocked if someone in one of the support groups I've been to had actually tried that. I wouldn't think that made me any better than him.

By asking us who is the "worst" sinner, you asked us to judge the character of the sinner, not the sin. This is a slippery slope, and for some, leads to "GOD HATES FAGS", as opposed to "God hates sin".

 

[jmdrake]

By asking us who is the "worst" sinner, you asked us to judge the character of the sinner, not the sin. This is a slippery slope, and for some, leads to "GOD HATES FAGS", as opposed to "God hates sin".

Ummmm...you be confused. I'm the one that made the point that bestiality doesn't seem any worse than homosexuality and, if that's the case, then people should be upset at Duck Dynasty Dude for comparing the two. If I recall correctly he compared them to adultery too. So he's put heterosexual illicit sex on the same par with homosexual illicit sex and human animal illicit sex. And you are offended because......?

 

[jmdrake]

Because all sins are equal, according to somebody.

Ummmmm.....okay. You seem to be just making random statements for no logical reason...but okay. I've never read the verse that says "All sins are equal" in the Bible anywhere, although I know some people believe that. But that has absolutely no relevance to anything I've said.

Animals have no rights, so whatever you do to animals is more acceptable than the same done to humans.

I never said animals did have rights. In fact...you're kind of making my point for me. People are upset at Duck Dynasty Dude for comparing homosexuality to bestiality as if bestiality is somehow worse than homosexuality. If "all sins are the same" then why be offended at Duck Dynasty Dude for making the comparison? If bestiality isn't as bad because animals don't have rights, then why be mad at Duck Dynasty Dude? Seriously....

 

[jmdrake]

do you think of yourself as better than rapists and murderers? I sure do.

Thank you. I'm glad you do. Richard Gere is neither a rapist or a murderer though. At least not to my knowledge. So I don't get your point.

 

[otherone]

Ummmm...you be confused. I'm the one that made the point that bestiality doesn't seem any worse than homosexuality and, if that's the case, then people should be upset at Duck Dynasty Dude for comparing the two. If I recall correctly he compared them to adultery too. So he's put heterosexual illicit sex on the same par with homosexual illicit sex and human animal illicit sex. And you are offended because......?

Offended? Nah.
But I AM confused. Aren't you the one (in post 215) that asked us to compare sinNERS? Can you see the problem in that?

 

[otherone]

People are upset at Duck Dynasty Dude for comparing homosexuality to bestiality as if bestiality is somehow worse than homosexuality. If "all sins are the same" then why be offended at Duck Dynasty Dude for making the comparison? If bestiality isn't as bad because animals don't have rights, then why be mad at Duck Dynasty Dude? Seriously....

Bestiality is deviant behavior. Homosexuality is not. Homosexuality should be compared to premarital sex, as they are both fornication. Of course, THAT comparison isn't quite as pointed, is it?

 

[jmdrake]

Offended? Nah.
But I AM confused. Aren't you the one (in post 215) that asked us to compare sinNERS? Can you see the problem in that?

You have a real reading comprehension problem. Here's what I said.

How did you jump from bestiality to raping children? Straw man argument that's really not even worth a response. I wasn't questioning whether all sins were equal. I was questioning why the "sin" of bestiality is necessarily worse than the "sin" of homsexuality. For a reference, actor Richard Gere once had to go to the hospital to have a gerbil extracted from...well I'd rather not mention it. Anyway, does that make Richard Gere any "worse" of a sinner than say Rock Hudson?

Nowhere did I ask you to "compare sinners". In fact...putting this in bold for your not reading pleasure...I wasn't questioning whether all sins were equal. I was questioning why the "sin" of bestiality is necessarily worse than the "sin" of homsexuality.

I'm not saying all sins are equal. I'm not saying all sins are not equal. I'm saying why do some people take offense at the comparison of homosexuality and bestiality? If you believe both are sins, and if you believe "all sins are equal", then you shouldn't mind the comparison. If you believe both are sins, and you don't think all sins are equal, then why would you think bestiality is necessarily worse the homosexuality? For the record I do not believe all sins are equal. The Bible doesn't say that. And Jesus pronounced particular woe against those who would cause one of His "little ones" to stumble. (See Matthew 18:6). So I would say child rape, according to Jesus, is worse. But again, that's really got absolutely nothing to do with anything I was saying. PRB was just trolling.

 

[jmdrake]

Bestiality is deviant behavior. Homosexuality is not.

Says you. You're nothing but a zoo-ophobe.

Homosexuality should be compared to premarital sex, as they are both fornication. Of course, THAT comparison isn't quite as pointed, is it?

That's the Bible according the "otherone". Let me know when you publish it. In the Bible that Phil Robertson reads, homosexuality and bestiality are covered in the same chapter. And "fornication" isn't really even covered in the Old Testament. If a man and a woman fornicated in the OT, they got married.

 

[otherone]

You have a real reading comprehension problem. Here's what I said.

does that make Richard Gere any "worse" of a sinner than say Rock Hudson?



Nowhere did I ask you to "compare sinners".

????????

 

[jmdrake]

????????

Those "??????" really show that you are not very bright. I wasn't asking you to "compare sinners". I was asking you why you already are comparing sinners!

And in a further post you proved that YOU are the one making the comparisons.

Bestiality is deviant behavior. Homosexuality is not.

See? ^That is a comparison. ^That is YOU making one sin worse than the other.

 

[otherone]

In the Bible that Phil Robertson reads, homosexuality and bestiality are covered in the same chapter.

Got it. Now I know why you believe fucking a person and fucking an animal to be the same.

 

[jmdrake]

Got it. Now I know why you believe fucking a person and fucking an animal to be the same.

You realize that the OP in this thread is about GLAAD attacking Phil Robertson for not being a "real Christian" right? You realize that Christians typically base their beliefs on the Bible right? No, I guess not. Anyway, your hatred of bestiality is based on....? (I'm wondering since you've made it clear that the Bible isn't your standard.)

 

[otherone]

Those "??????" really show that you are not very bright. I wasn't asking you to "compare sinners". I was asking you why you already are comparing sinners!

And in a further post you proved that YOU are the one making the comparisons.

See? ^That is a comparison. ^That is YOU making one sin worse than the other.

Dude. You are the one comparing sinners. I'm the one talking about BEHAVIORS.