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[PRB]

Why? Why would one be a smaller sin than the other? Because one is more acceptable in modern society than the other? Because one bothers you more on a personal level than the other? Does the catechism teach that homosexual acts are a small sin? And I thought your position was that it isn't a sin at all? I'm confused.

So raping children is equally sinful as telling a lie, even if a lie has hurt nobody.

 

[PRB]

Yes there is. An adult can give consent. An animal can't.

Animals can't consent to being eaten either, yet the Bible says nothing about eating meat being wrong.

 

[PRB]

Because they are on the same level.

They are sin. they are contrary to God's plan. They are deviations. Immorality.
There is no Good sin and Bad sin.

They are on the same level.

what does that mean to us as Christians, as humans, in the practical sense? Should we treat all sinners as equal? That means a liar and a child molester is equally good and equally bad, they get the same punishment and lack thereof?

 

[otherone]

what does that mean to us as Christians, as humans, in the practical sense? Should we treat all sinners as equal? That means a liar and a child molester is equally good and equally bad, they get the same punishment and lack thereof?

Is it Christians' job to punish sin?

 

[PRB]

Is it Christians' job to punish sin?

of course not, that's why all government is evil and all crimes should be allowed.

 

[otherone]

of course not, that's why all government is evil and all crimes should be allowed.

????

 

[PRB]

????

it's not our job to punish sin, so what is our job?

 

[brushfire]

it's not our job to punish sin, so what is our job?

To bear fruit... Some may interpret that as they wish. The bible does a pretty good job of defining what "fruit" is.

 

[otherone]

it's not our job to punish sin, so what is our job?

I believe it's Man's job to protect people's Rights. Sometimes this involves punishing those who infringe upon them. Occasionally transgressions against Individual Rights overlap with what Christians consider to be sin. It was my understanding that it is God's job to judge and punish those that break His law.

 

[PRB]

I believe it's Man's job to protect people's Rights.

You believe? based on what? The Bible? your own opinion?

Sometimes this involves punishing those who infringe upon them. Occasionally transgressions against Individual Rights overlap with what Christians consider to be sin. It was my understanding that it is God's job to judge and punish those that break His law.

how do you decide which times are those? so it's just a nice coincidence that individual rights overlap with Christian ideals of sin? You mean to tell me people can have rights without being Christian? And US can be a free country without living by Christian rules?

 

[otherone]

You mean to tell me people can have rights without being Christian? And US can be a free country without living by Christian rules?

Obviously.

 

[green73]

You believe? based on what? The Bible? your own opinion?



how do you decide which times are those? so it's just a nice coincidence that individual rights overlap with Christian ideals of sin? You mean to tell me people can have rights without being Christian? And US can be a free country without living by Christian rules?

 

[juleswin]

You believe? based on what? The Bible? your own opinion?



how do you decide which times are those? so it's just a nice coincidence that individual rights overlap with Christian ideals of sin? You mean to tell me people can have rights without being Christian? And US can be a free country without living by Christian rules?

 

[klamath]

Yes there is. An adult can give consent. An animal can't.

It is the common weak argument. Animals NEVER get to consent to anything done to them by humans.

 

[jmdrake]

So raping children is equally sinful as telling a lie, even if a lie has hurt nobody.

How did you jump from bestiality to raping children? Straw man argument that's really not even worth a response. I wasn't questioning whether all sins were equal. I was questioning why the "sin" of bestiality is necessarily worse than the "sin" of homsexuality. For a reference, actor Richard Gere once had to go to the hospital to have a gerbil extracted from...well I'd rather not mention it. Anyway, does that make Richard Gere any "worse" of a sinner than say Rock Hudson?

 

[Origanalist]

How did you jump from bestiality to raping children? Straw man argument that's really not even worth a response. I wasn't questioning whether all sins were equal. I was questioning why the "sin" of bestiality is necessarily worse than the "sin" of homsexuality. For a reference, actor Richard Gere once had to go to the hospital to have a gerbil extracted from...well I'd rather not mention it. Anyway, does that make Richard Gere any "worse" of a sinner than say Rock Hudson?

Ask PETA.

 

[jmdrake]

Ask PETA.

LOL. True. But in their case I would ask how is it worse than killing animals for food or clothing?

 

[otherone]

LOL. True. But in their case I would ask how is it worse than killing animals for food or clothing?

In all seriousness, from your understanding of what the bible says of sexual sin, how is bestiality different than onanism, or lustful thoughts, or sodomy? How is homosexuality different than heterosexual fornication? With the understanding that fornication involves two people, what type of sin is bestiality?

 

[otherone]

LOL. True. But in their case I would ask how is it worse than killing animals for food or clothing?

In all seriousness, from your understanding of what the bible says of sexual sin, how is bestiality different than onanism, or lustful thoughts, or sodomy? How is homosexuality different than heterosexual fornication? With the understanding that fornication involves two people, what type of sin is bestiality?

 

[jmdrake]

In all seriousness, from your understanding of what the bible says of sexual sin, how is bestiality different than onanism, or lustful thoughts, or sodomy? How is homosexuality different than heterosexual fornication? With the understanding that fornication involves two people, what type of sin is bestiality?

What exactly is "onanism"? Onan practiced the "withdrawal" method of birth control. He did it to avoid getting his dead brother's wife pregnant. Was the "sin" withdrawal and "spilling his seed"? Or was the "sin" violation of contract? He got what he wanted (sexual pleasure) and he did give what he was asked (an heir for his brother). Most people equate onanism to masturbation, but was what he did really that different from using a condom?

Anyway, if fornication requires two people and bestiality only includes one...I'm not sure which one would be Biblically worse. Seriously, I don't know. I guess that would put it in the same category as using a sex toy instead of a person. I'm not sure what kind of diseases people can contract from it. I'm guessing it could be pretty bad but I don't know.