'Duck Dynasty' star makes anti-gay comments; GLAAD slams

[PRB]

Lol.

lol, I have no idea who stockman is, but I know that's how him.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

This and jailing a guy for not selling a cake to a gay marriage. It is clear it is not about live and let live but forcing people at a point of a gun to accept and approve of their lifestyle.

The guy getting arrested didn't get a lot of coverage though, the MSM made sure the general public didn't hear about it. But firing Phil Robertson isn't something you can chose not to cover.

 

[torchbearer]

A&E is homophobic and violated section 7 of civil rights act.

 

[juleswin]

Straw man much, A&E never actually said what Phil said was homophobic. Anyway what he said was ignorant, everybody knows gay people because of some psychological abnormality prefer guys over gals. Also the weird connection he tried to make with homosexual relationship and bestiality is what I think put his statement over the top.

Whenever you try to connect homosexuality with bestiality or pedophilia or even incest, you will piss off a lot of people and it doesn't matter if you are reading straight from the bible or not. Also Phil and his clan mates are in a contract with A&E and my guess is that said contract has a ton of behavioral clause that if violated allows A&E to get out of the contract. This is not uncommon with highly paid people like sports and movie stars. I seriously doubt the federal govt will be visiting A&E studios with charges of violating anyone's civil rights.

Don't know what exactly to make of this video but it seems like this whole thing could have been a setup. If the pictures in it are real, then one has to wonder just how long these guys have been bearded rednecks? or was it all hatched to script a reality TV(like most scripted so called reality shows) show that will bring country folk back to watching TV again.

 

[Deborah K]

^^^^ This is the most important post in the entire thread.

In less then 24 hours over 1.3 million people have liked that Stand with Phill facebook page, over 250k have signed a petition, and hundreds of tweets a minute. Stand with Phil has had more action in one day then anything the liberty movement has done in a year. This clearly shows the disconnect in the American public. Until WE the people change, our government will just keep rolling on right over us. As the great quote says...... ".....if you can keep it"

I view it as an opportunity to bring his supporters on board. Of all the groups that are getting pissed off about social engineering, and govt control, this group of supporters would be the most likely to be receptive to Dr. Paul's message.

 

[Deborah K]

Straw man much, A&E never actually said what Phil said was homophobic. Anyway what he said was ignorant, everybody knows gay people because of some psychological abnormality prefer guys over gals. Also the weird connection he tried to make with homosexual relationship and bestiality is what I think put his statement over the top.

Oh come on! He didn't do that! If he had mentioned ONLY bestiality and not the other list of sins, then you could make that claim. Otherwise, you have to conclude that homosexuality also leads to "sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men”, because he finishes the sentence with that quote. Then he goes on to paraphrase the Bible: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

 

[Rudeman]

Straw man much, A&E never actually said what Phil said was homophobic. Anyway what he said was ignorant, everybody knows gay people because of some psychological abnormality prefer guys over gals. Also the weird connection he tried to make with homosexual relationship and bestiality is what I think put his statement over the top.

Your lack of reading comprehension is really disappointing, I've told you at least twice that you're wrong yet you persist in your ignorance.

 

[juleswin]

Your lack of reading comprehension is really disappointing, I've told you at least twice that you're wrong yet you persist in your ignorance.

Yes, he didn't compare homosexuality to beastiality per say but the insinuated that tolerating homosexuality will lead(morph) to other sins like beastiality and adultery. Still has the same effect whenever you mention gay sex to beastiality.

 

[James Madison]

Yes, he didn't compare homosexuality to beastiality per say but the insinuated that tolerating homosexuality will lead(morph) to other sins like beastiality and adultery. Still has the same effect whenever you mention gay sex to beastiality.

As a straight male, bestiality is about as appealing as gay sex.

 

[CPUd]

On December 18th 2013, the Facebook page Stand With Phil Robertson was created. A mere 24 hours later that page had gained just under 1 MILLION Facebook likes. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could replicate that? We can! We just need to look over what they did and see what worked.

http://www.bigbrandexaminer.com/vir...-1-million-facebook-page-likes-less-24-hours/

 

[James Madison]

http://www.bigbrandexaminer.com/vir...-1-million-facebook-page-likes-less-24-hours/

Rand needs to release a statement defending Robertson ASAP. That would single-handedly win him thousands of votes for 2016.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Yes, he didn't compare homosexuality to beastiality per say but the insinuated that tolerating homosexuality will lead(morph) to other sins like beastiality and adultery. Still has the same effect whenever you mention gay sex to beastiality.

Actually, he didn't insinuate any morphing, he cited scripture that associated homosexuality as part of a class of sexual or other sins and lifestyles that will not be part of the kingdom of God. Homosexuality does not "become" something immoral or evil, the activity (and a commitment to it) IS immoral or evil in and of itself.

 

[lilymc]

Only on RPF are you expected to be tolerant of the intolerant. Only on RPF(and DU) is free speech expect to be a one way deal. Sorry guys but it is not a contradiction for a tolerant person to be intolerant of the intolerant, its the same way you showing no respect to someone who doesn't respect themselves doesn't make you a hypocrite. And also the idea that A&E firing this man for expressing his freedom of speech some how violates his freedom of speech omits the A&E by firing him is also expressing its freedom of expression. It just shows that actions be it in form of speech have consequences. You also use your freedom of expression by boycotting A&E for what they did to him. Its a free world.

I actually like the show in the few episodes I watch at work, the family is really nice and funny. I think the whole episode could have been handled differently, he like most people living in the country and non western countries have very little knowledge about gay people. He should have plead the 5th and said he knows nothing and them and their lifestyle. People indeed do fear what they do not understand and in his attempt to be frank about something he was ignorant about, he said something that offended the whole group of people

He should come out and do some sort of middle of the road apology and be done with it. Please man up and don't fuck it up for the rest of the clan.

Why should he apologize? He stated his beliefs. Can someone please post a transcript of what the guy actually said? Did he use any hateful slurs, or did he merely say what many people (Christians) believe - that it's a sin? Because if it's the latter, then he has no reason to apologize.

 

[juleswin]

Why should he apologize? He stated his beliefs. Can someone please post a transcript of what the guy actually said? Did he use any hateful slurs, or did he merely say what many people (Christians) believe - that it's a sin? Because if it's the latter, then he has no reason to apologize.

I will assume that you are married or been in a relationship before. You will realize that sometimes you find your self apologizing for being honest. This very similar to that, you apologize not necessarily because you were dishonest but because you offended people for characteristic which they have no control of.

It sucks, but you do it because it is the diplomatic thing to do and because you didn't mean to hurt anyone by you being honest.

 

[TaftFan]

Rand needs to release a statement defending Robertson ASAP. That would single-handedly win him thousands of votes for 2016.

Cruz did. So should Rand.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I will assume that you are married or been in a relationship before. You will realize that sometimes you find your self apologizing for being honest. This very similar to that, you apologize not necessarily because you were dishonest but because you offended people for characteristic which they have no control of.

It sucks, but you do it because it is the diplomatic thing to do and because you didn't mean to hurt anyone by you being honest.

He wasn't talking about the characteristic; he was talking about what was said in the Bible about the act. It's not a sin to have the urge; the sin is the acting out of it.

But, that isn't the point. Why are so many getting their panties in a wad over one man's statements? What this one man says doesn't impact gays. Not everyone is going to agree with their lifestyle and certainly don't want it pushed on them. So what? Why don't gays go live their lives and stop trying to force everyone, including by using government, to act like they accept the gay lifestyle as something other than deviant behavior.

 

[jmdrake]

Straw man much, A&E never actually said what Phil said was homophobic. Anyway what he said was ignorant, everybody knows gay people because of some psychological abnormality prefer guys over gals. Also the weird connection he tried to make with homosexual relationship and bestiality is what I think put his statement over the top.

Question. Do you think it's possible for someone to have a psychological abnormality to prefer animals over humans? And I know...I know. That's different because "animals can't consent." But people don't worry about animals consenting to being slaughtered and eaten or experimented on or a whole host of other things much worse than unconsensual sex.

Anyway, full disclosure. As a recovering sex addict I go to a support group with all kinds of people working to stay away from all kinds of things from porn and masturbation to animals, to men and women to inanimate objects. The definition of "sobriety" for our support group is progressive victory over lust, and no sex outside of marriage with marriage being defined as sex between a man and a woman. Gays actually feel quite welcome in the group. So do pedophiles and people who prefer animals and everything else you can imagine. No sinner is looking down on another sinner. Some of the nicest people you want to meet wouldn't be safe around your cat. Why do you want to put them down?

 

[robert9712000]

You apologize because what was said offended or was going to offend a lot of people regardless of whether the disclaimer was given or not. Also, i am not even sure if what he said was technically intolerant but it was definitely ignorant.

Also, disagreeing with someone about something that is innate to them can be offensive. He would have gotten the same treatment if he said something similar about short, disabled, black, or maybe even red haired people because the general public seems to take offense at people that go around offending groups of people.

The difference is your being a bigot if you judge a person on something you have no control over.A short person can not help being short,While a person may have gay thoughts,they choose whether to act upon them.

Its no different than if im angry at someone and i have thoughts of punching them in the face.Just because i had the thought does not mean i am forced to act upon it.If i end up punching the person im mad at i can not say its not my fault i was born with anger issues and i couldn't help it.Society would say " Yes it is your fault you need to deal with your anger".There is a lack of consistency in saying a gay person can not help being Gay ,because they can.

Even though i think its wrong to act upon it, I would not try to force them to act a different way.It is up to each of us too figure out what is right or wrong and God will judge them in the end.In return though i do not want them to tell me what i can or can not say or think.

A& E had every right to fire them,but they did not do it because they disagreed with his comments,they fired him because they are cowards and would never dare make any stand that goes against popular opinion.They knew what he believed before they took him on,but as like the rest of society says "We have no problem with your beliefs as long as you shut up and never discuss it"

 

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http://www.bigbrandexaminer.com/vir...-1-million-facebook-page-likes-less-24-hours/

Proof this NONtroversy was all staged by A&E, WalMart and Robertson.

 

[Danke]