Drudge flashback: FBI Warns of Train Derailment Threat; 6 dead as NY bound train derails

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Another NY bound train derails:

'Absolute, disastrous mess': 6 dead, hundreds hurt after Amtrak train derails

By Sara Sidner, Kevin Conlon and Saeed Ahmed, CNN
Updated 10:38 AM ET, Wed May 13, 2015
Philadelphia (CNN)
• More than 200 people were treated at hospitals for injuries associated with Tuesday's night Amtrak train crash, Philadelphia emergency management director Sam Phillips said.
• Seven members of the National Transportation Safety Board are at the derailment site in Philadelphia as of 10 a.m. Wednesday, and more are coming, Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter said. Investigators will look at a number of factors, including the track, the train signals, the operation of the train, the mechanical condition of the train and human performance, NTSB board member Robert Sumwalt said.
• A recorder on the train, known as the "black box," has been recovered and is being examined, the mayor said

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/13/us/philadelphia-amtrak-train-derailment/


SEPTA Says Commuter Train Hit By Projectile Just Before Amtrak Train Derailed
May 13, 2015 10:08 AM

PHILADELPHIA (CBS/AP) – A Philadelphia commuter train was hit by a projectile about 20 minutes before an Amtrak train derailed a few miles up the track.
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/20...projectile-just-before-amtrak-train-derailed/




Drudge has also linked to this 2013 flashback news today:

FBI Warns of Train Derailment Threat
W A S H I N G T O N, May 8
By Jason A. Ryan
Devices that could be used by terrorists to derail trains are being stolen from rail facilities around the country, the FBI warned today.
Nine derailers, a piece of railroad equipment used to derail train cars for safety purposes in railyards have been stolen recently, sources said, citing the FBI's weekly intelligence bulletin.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90646



There had been quite a few train derail news couple of years ago.




Related

Train Derail carrying fuel Quebec

Canada terror plot suspect argued he was a stateless Palestinian to avoid deportation
Raed Jaser, who was arrested in Canada for an alleged plot to derail a train, was served a deportation order in 2004 after being convicted on various charges; a court deferred the warrant after Jaser claimed he was 'Palestinian by blood' and had no rights in the UAE, where he was born.
Apr. 27, 2013
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/c...ess-palestinian-to-avoid-deportation-1.517830


What's going on with planes and trains?? Another big derailment today

West Virginia In State Of Emergency After Massive Oil Train Explosion
February 17, 2015

Crews work to clear derailed train, La. governor declares emergency around site
Published: AUGUST 05, 7:29 PM ET Aa LAWTELL, La.
http://m.washingtonpost.com/national...ted/2013/08/04
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4 dead, 63 injured after NYC-bound Metro-North passenger train derails in Bronx
Published: Sunday, December 1, 2013, 8:12 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-bound-metro-north-passenger-train-derails-bronx-article-1.1533963

Amtrak Crescent train headed to New York derails in South Carolina
The train had 218 passengers and crew members onboard, but no injuries were reported. The cause of the accident is under investigation.
Monday, November 25, 2013

WHNS

An Amtrak train heading for New York City derailed early monday morning in Spartanburg County, S.C. Passangers were stuck on the train for more than eight hours.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/amtrak-train-derails-south-carolina-article-1.1528161



Train carrying crude oil crashed and burning in West Alabama
Nov 08, 2013 3:44 AM EST

Derailed train cars smoldering in West Alabama (abc3340.com)
http://www.abc27.com/story/23912869/...n-west-alabama
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[tangent4ronpaul]

FBI Warns of Train Derailment Threat
W A S H I N G T O N, May 8
By Jason A. Ryan
Devices that could be used by terrorists to derail trains are being stolen from rail facilities around the country, the FBI warned today.
Nine derailers, a piece of railroad equipment used to derail train cars for safety purposes in railyards have been stolen recently, sources said, citing the FBI's weekly intelligence bulletin.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=90646

http://www.railyard-safety.com/Railyard-Safety.aspx?Type=Derails - Accessories&c=1

Derail Accessories
Derails are emergency car stopping devices to prevent unauthorized movement of a locomotive or railcar. the derail lifts the flange of the car wheel and drops it clear of the rail. Simultaneously, the wheel opposite the derail is guided off the rail. Once the car wheel leaves the rail, forward movement is greatly impeded.



http://www.aldonco.com/products.aspx?sec=2&cat=218

Derails: Hinged
When you positively have to stop a freight car or locomotive...

Derails are emergency stopping devices designed to guide the wheels of a freight car or locomotive off the rails. OSHA requires that every industrial siding be equipped with a derail to deny locomotive entry before railcars are ready to be removed.

Hinged derails are lifted on and off the rail by hand or with Lifting Lever (#4014-28 and #4014-25, farther down the page). The blue derail sign is separately lifted and lowered by hand. For more convenience consider the Pop-up Sign Holder for either 1-way or 2-way derails.


One-Way Hinged for Wooden Ties
FOR FREIGHT CARS & LOCOMOTIVES


Aldon derails are designed for cars and locomotives operating at SLOW SWITCHING SPEEDS (5 mph or less).

CAUTION: Install derails on exposed rail track only.

For rails 80-141 lbs. Derails are sized to fit a specific rail height, including thickness of tie plate.

Contact us for a sizing form or click here.
For important information click here
For installation guide click here


Blue derail sign and holder are included with the derail (see MoonSign option in "Accessories" below). Six screw spikes are provided for proper anchoring to ties. Height of derail above rail, 2¾"

NOTE: Hinged derail is designed for use on tracks with wooden ties. Use screw spikes (supplied with Aldon Hinged Derails) for proper anchoring of derails to wooden ties. If you have steel ties see #4014-13 below, Base Plate Accessory. Do not install derails on resin or concrete ties.


Two-Way Hinged for Wooden Ties
CAUTION: Install derails on exposed rail track only.

Aldon derails are designed for cars and locomotives operating at SLOW SWITCHING SPEEDS (5 mph or less)

Derails are sized to fit a specific rail height, including thickness of tie plate.

Contact us for a sizing form or click here.
For important information click here
For installation guide for derailing freight cars click here
For installation guide for derailing locomotives click here

Blue derail sign and holder are included with the derail (see MoonSign option in "Accessories" below). Six screw spikes are provided for proper anchoring to ties. Height of derail above rail: 2¾"

NOTE: Hinged derail is designed for use on tracks with wooden ties. Use screw spikes (supplied with Aldon Hinged Derails) for proper anchoring of derails to wooden ties. If you have steel ties see #4014-13 below, Base Plate Accessory. Do not install derails on resin or concrete ties.


See the derail in action

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Fox & Friends interrupts breaking Amtrak news to ask lawyers how to make money off crash
13 May 2015 at 10:03 ET

While rescuers were still searching for survivors after an Amtrak train crashed in Philadelphia, Fox & Friends interrupted their breaking news to ask two lawyers about the financial benefits of suing the government.
The New York-bound trained derailed at around 9 p.m. on Tuesday, killing at least six people. By early Wednesday morning, crews were still searching through the wreckage, and Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter (D) said that officials had not yet been able to account for all of the passengers.ADVERTISEMENTHowever, Fox News host Elisabeth Hasselbeck took time out of coverage of the emergency to wonder about the “legal implications.”

“Amtrak is owned by the government,” she pointed out. “How does that complicate things in terms of what the passengers’ rights to claims are?”
Defense attorney Whitney Boan suggested that passengers and families of the deceased could seek damages from the government, train parts manufacturers, and Amtrak employees.
“The legal implications will become more clear as we find out more about what happened,” she observed.
“What specific claims could passengers be putting forward here?” Hasselbeck asked. “In particularly, the families of the deceased.”
Attorney Eric Guster suggested that families should consider suing for wrongful death and possibly for faulty equipment.
“There is liability somewhere because trains are not supposed to derail,” he added. “But the question is who. Who is to blame?”
Hasselbeck concluded by asking if trains should have seatbelts.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/05/fox...s-to-ask-lawyers-how-to-make-money-off-crash/



Lives lost in Amtrak train derailment: midshipman, tech CEO, AP video staffer, bank VP

At least seven people were killed in Tuesday’s Amtrak train derailment, including Justin Zemser, a 20-year-old midshipman at the U.S. Naval Academy; Rachel Jacobs, 39, chief executive officer of Philadelphia-based ApprenNet; Jim Gaines, a 48-year-old video software architect for the Associated Press; and Abid Gilani, 55, a Wells Fargo executive.
Among those missing is Bob Gildersleeve, a vice president the St. Paul, Minnesota, based company Ecolab. The names of the others killed in the violent crash — which demolished one train car and toppled others on their sides — remain unknown, but the lives of those confirmed to have died illustrated the depth of Tuesday’s catastrophe.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...railment-include-midshipman-ap-video-staffer/

 

[muh_roads]

**fixed**

FBI Warns of Train Derailment Threat
W A S H I N G T O N, May 8
By Jason A. Ryan
Devices that could be used by the CIA pretending to be terrorists or the FBI influencing people to be terrorists to derail trains are being stolen from rail facilities around the country, the non-transparent FBI warned today.
Nine derailers, a piece of railroad equipment used to derail train cars for safety purposes in railyards have been stolen recently, sources said, citing the FBI's weekly BS bulletin.

 

[Uriel999]

Same topic different forum I found out...that curve was rated for 50mph...the train was going 102mph...

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Same topic different forum I found out...that curve was rated for 50mph...the train was going 102mph...

So this is murder?

 

[Uriel999]

So this is murder?

I dunno what to call it. Probably involuntary manslaughter? I am not in any way educated on law so I can't really comment beyond the same type of speculation anyone else would do. Most likely operator error.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Same topic different forum I found out...that curve was rated for 50mph...the train was going 102mph...

Yep. Cause seems straight forward. Engineer/driver error.

So this is murder?

Well, we have this same question repeated over and over, in a variety of situations. If it is accidental, what should the penalty be?

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Same topic different forum I found out...that curve was rated for 50mph...the train was going 102mph...

That would explian it then.
It would also rule out foul play angle that was raised by Drudge headlines today and checked during rail derail in Canada while back.

Train Derail carrying fuel Quebec

Canada terror plot suspect argued he was a stateless Palestinian to avoid deportation
Raed Jaser, who was arrested in Canada for an alleged plot to derail a train, was served a deportation order in 2004 after being convicted on various charges; a court deferred the warrant after Jaser claimed he was 'Palestinian by blood' and had no rights in the UAE, where he was born.
Apr. 27, 2013
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/ca...ation-1.517830

 

[Uriel999]

Just keep in mind the word I got came from random asshats on the internet. Who knows.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Yep. Cause seems straight forward.

Hey!! You tryna be funny?

 

[TheCount]

Just keep in mind the word I got came from random asshats on the internet. Who knows.

With contacts like those you could start a news channel.

 

[mad cow]

Just keep in mind the word I got came from random asshats on the internet. Who knows.

Random Asshats on the Internet would be a great name for a news operation,they could give AP and UPI a run for their money.

This just in from RAI: Mother's Milk,A Healthy Choice Or A Deadly Poison?

 

[Occam's Banana]

Random Asshats on the Internet would be a great name for a news operation,they could give AP and UPI a run for their money.

Would there even be a noticeable difference?

 

[mad cow]

Would there even be a noticeable difference?

No,but if I had even the slightest internet skillz,I would register the domain name because I like it so much.
But that honor should go to Uriel,he came up with it.I hope he makes a mint.

 

[donnay]

That's it! We need TSA at the train stations now!

 

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There was another oil train derail last week.

[h=1]Oil train derails, explodes in flames in North Dakota; nearby town evacuated[/h] By Ashley Halsey III May 6

Five days after federal regulators announced strict new rules for the tank car trains that hauled more than 490,000 loads of oil last year, a train derailed and burst into flames Wednesday, forcing the evacuation of a North Dakota town.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...101ad8-f414-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html

 

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**fixed**

Too soon to know for sure.

 

[Uriel999]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-8gV4DJZUw



I found this video interesting. It is apparently pretty difficult to make a train wreck.

 

[fr33]

Well we beat em to it. http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/loca...s-cause-train-to-derail-in-cooke-co/26969349/
Drudge is obviously a psychic. He should become a meteorologist.