Dr. Paul still eligible for gop nomination!

[Crash Martinez]

I was just thinking what odd comments those were coming from someone named "No1ButPaul08."
. . . .

 

[No1ButPaul08]

Uhm, Dr. Paul ended his campaign some time ago. I don't understand why some people can't let this go? No amount of DVDs being sent to delegates, and no amount of trying to rig the election is going to change that fact. Can we just move on and go with the CFL? He's said numerous times that the campaign is over with - and that a revolt at the convention would not be a good thing.
Everyone is upset with the way that this country is being run, and where it's heading - but the 2008 election is not going to end up with Ron Paul as the commander in chief. As soon as people just accept that - the sooner we can focus all our energy on something that is going to really make a difference.

"It's takes a good friend to tell you you're just pissin' in the wind" - Neil Young

ChrisInMN

+1

I was just thinking what odd comments those were coming from someone named "No1ButPaul08."
. . . .

Look, I want Dr. Paul to be President just as much as everyone else. I also wish he was still in the running. But I'm not going to go around looking like a fool claiming he has a chance because of a name i've chosen for an internet forum.

 

[pendragon]

the Campaign is over, but is the campaign over?

some will say that Dr. Paul himself has said so - but has he? Listen very carefully to what he says and writes - listen and read at least TWICE! the good doctor does not speak like the others, his words have meaning, compared to him, theirs don't...

here lately, when he speaks, he is speaking to three audiences at the same time:


* the Federal Election Commission and to compliance with federal and state election laws
* to voters and the general public not yet for liberty and constitution
* to us, we that know (or should know) that nothing has changed, that for the sake of liberty and constitution he did, does, and still needs to be nominated from the floor and then elected by the Delegates in Convention as the Republican Party Nominee, and then finally elected by General Election voters to the White House (who would argue that he does not?)


as to the first - he nails it!
as to the second - there are still folks coming to the banner of freedom - he is nailing that too!
as to the third - he hasn't the power nor the responsibility to do what only we can do...

if he nails the third, it will be because we have the ears to hear and the eyes to see, and the determination in our hearts like that of Ron Paul and the founding fathers - to never quit, to not give up, to finish the race...all the way across the finish line - you can't win if you quit before finishing the race and as any runner knows, you give it all you have, and nothing less, all the way through to the end, only after crossing the finish line do you let up

This years race has never been about the person of Dr. Paul - it is about the the message - the message that is not his alone - it is our message, the message of our forefathers - Ron Paul only offered himself as a candidate for the message - he is not a Ron Paul supporter, we are - it is not up to him to finish what he alone did not start - it is up to us - it is our responsibility, our joint responsibility and our personal responsibility

do not expect him to be something he is not, do not expect him to be like the others, do not expect to hear the words of others in him...

study Dr. Paul - he is not a shallow man (and we may yet prove him to be the smartest guy in this election cycle)

every real and good reason to Stand Tall for Ron Paul, at any point in time, is still just as valid

 

[cyndezu]

Yes, and here is a great digg to help promote it, DVD's for delegates. Ron Paul will accept the nomination, lets help the delegate's get him there!

http://digg.com/politics/THE_REVOLUTION_IS_ON_2 diggin

 

[The_Orlonater]

you spew negativity ,with your foolish comment and continued arguments ,we get you have given up on ron paul being a nominee ,we haven't!!!. go debate a mccain delegate and stop bothering people who are trying very hard to convert delegates while you call them foolish ,great work

you have said nothing positive other then trying to down folks for trying to win ron paul the nomination ,for you to say its over when it's not is the point you can have an opinion but no need to call people foolish or try to undermine what they are doing with your negativity , like i said why not go convert a delegate instead of arguing over everything you know written in stone

+1

If Ron Paul is the nominee, I'll take out the Bob Barr thing in my signature. I just hope Barr will drop out if RP is the GOP nominee.

 

[Bradley in DC]

The article demonstrates no understanding of the rules to "eligible" to even be nominated. :o

 

[pendragon]

The article demonstrates no understanding of the rules to "eligible" to even be nominated. :o

any and all (Paul, McCain, others?), who qualify for the office, and are nominated from the floor by 5 state delegations are eligible to be on the ballot, to be voted on by the Convention of Delegates, to become the one nominated by the convention as the Party's Nominee, the Party's Candidate for President

to what article do you refer?

 

[gilliganscorner]

Hi Folks,

Excuse my ignorance, but I would like to ask a question. With the Nevada results coming in and with the new RP delegates going to Minnesota, does this mean RP now has a spot to make a speech as well as McCain to the all the delegates?

Thanks!

 

[Roxi]

i hate to inject reality into this, i really do, but dr. Paul already said he doesn't want a delegate revolt, and even if we find some way to steal the nomination for him, he won't accept it.

Face it guys, the presidential run is over. Its time to focus on the campaign for liberty.

lies.... All lies.... You lie!!!!....

 

[pendragon]

I hate to inject reality into this, I really do, ...

reality? as in a realist? Benedict Arnold was a realist, and look want it got him. George Washington was not, thank God!

... but Dr. Paul already said he doesn't want a delegate revolt, ...

not true - he said no demonstrations, as in "floor demonstrations" (look it up) - and he said no disruptions, as in we will stay within the rules - listen carefully to all that he said, again

... and even if we find some way to steal the nomination for him, he won't accept it. ...

1st - Delegates voting as they choose is not stealing - if i vote for Ron Paul, am i stealing? Delegates have the right to vote as they see fit - that is why they are sent there. Did all those that voted for Paul in the Primaries steal votes from...who?

2nd - Dr. Paul did not say that - he DID say that he would accept.

... Face it guys, the presidential run is over.

why should we face what the McCain Camp does not? why is the McCain Camp still campaigning for the nomination? why are they campaigning the state Delegations? why are they putting pressure on state Party officials?

could it be that they know it's not over until the Delegates vote in September?

... Its time to focus on the campaign for liberty.

...and dvds4delegates.com is focus on the campaign for liberty, the one we are in now, the one that was and is

 

[pendragon]

tell THEM

To all who say that it's over:

PLEASE contact the McCain Camp and tell THEM it's over
PLEASE tell them to stop campaigning for the nomination
PLEASE tell them to leave the state delegations alone, it doesn't matter who they vote for
PLEASE tell them to focus ALL their time and energy campaigning for the General Election, not just the public campaigning, but all of the private campaigning as well
PLEASE tell THEM it's a lock, it's in the bag...

and while your at it, ask THEM why they don't believe you
or better yet, ask them, "Don't you guys watch TV?"

 

[pauletteNV]

Pendragon...
What words of wisdom...it's a pleasure to read your thoughtful logic. We must also remember that this is a learning experience...learning to stand up for what we believe in and not to back down to the pressures of the powerhouse known as the RNC. Learning how the system works and how to make it work for us, not against us. Taking back our liberties, step by step.

I am disappointed to hear the support of other presidential candidates even before the convention. Hear my words, Ron Paul suspended his run, he did not withdraw. I am disenchanted with those who claim to be Ron Paul supporters and yet back down when the battle gets a little tough. That is not now R3volutions are won. I actually think when reviewing some of his comments, Ron Paul was expecting this reaction because he knows how much dedication and perservence it takes to continue in the face of adversity. It is hard to be aggressive and stay focused when you are fighting such a strong and entrenched foe. Look at what he has been doing for us for so many years...try to think like Ron Paul. Now is not, imo, the time to let down our guard and retreat...even a little. Please we can do this...

 

[Catatonic]

reality? as in a realist? Benedict Arnold was a realist, and look want it got him. George Washington was not, thank God!

not true - he said no demonstrations, as in "floor demonstrations" (look it up) - and he said no disruptions, as in we will stay within the rules - listen carefully to all that he said, again

1st - Delegates voting as they choose is not stealing - if i vote for Ron Paul, am i stealing? Delegates have the right to vote as they see fit - that is why they are sent there. Did all those that voted for Paul in the Primaries steal votes from...who?

2nd - Dr. Paul did not say that - he DID say that he would accept.

why should we face what the McCain Camp does not? why is the McCain Camp still campaigning for the nomination? why are they campaigning the state Delegations? why are they putting pressure on state Party officials?

could it be that they know it's not over until the Delegates vote in September?


...and dvds4delegates.com is focus on the campaign for liberty, the one we are in now, the one that was and is

Look, I love Ron Paul and this movement. I've been in this since March of '07. But at this point some people here are going into 'drink the kool-aid' mode and its pretty rediculous.

If you're dead set on this then go for it. But if you manage to steal the nomination and Dr. Paul doesn't accept I hope you don't end up feeling dejected and leave the movement.

It was a lot easier last year when everyone had a single goal unifying us. It seems like this movement has been pulled in a lot of different directions since then and that just results in people feeling alienated and leaving.

Just remember the ultimate focus is the movement as a whole, not this one presidential campaign.

 

[pendragon]

speaking to the Convention

Hi Folks,
Excuse my ignorance, but I would like to ask a question. With the Nevada results coming in and with the new RP delegates going to Minnesota, does this mean RP now has a spot to make a speech as well as McCain to the all the delegates?

Thanks!

not automatically, IF however a candidate, Paul, Romney, Huckabee, or any "dark horse", or "favorite son," were to receive the vote of 5 states (a majority of a state's delegation = 1 state), then that person's name would be placed on the first ballot to be voted on by the Convention - all persons on the first ballot get the opportunity to speak to the Convention from the podium

McCain will undoubtedly receive the minimum 5 states - what is unknown is, will anyone else? The McCain Camp fears that there will be, and that, my little chickadees, is why they are still campaigning the state delegations before they get to Minnesota, and campaigning hard, putting pressure on state party officials...to ensure no one else gets 5 states

who do you think, they think, might get 5 states, Huckabee? Romney? or Ron Paul? you guessed it, Ron Paul.

and if Ron Paul gets to speak, he might just persuade enough delegates so that no one wins on the first ballot, or the second, or maybe someone besides McCain gains the majority on that first ballot - it has happened before (look it up)

The McCain Camp knows what can happen in a Convention (they looked it up) and that is why they are working so hard to keep the Ron Paul nation down, to make sure the Ron Paul nation stays down, and doesn't get back up (as has been done before, look it up)

i get knocked down, but i get up again, you're never gonna keep me down!
i get knocked down, but i get up again, you're never gonna keep me down!
i get knocked down, but i get up again, you're never gonna keep me down!

 

[pauletteNV]

...
It was a lot easier last year when everyone had a single goal unifying us. It seems like this movement has been pulled in a lot of different directions since then and that just results in people feeling alienated and leaving.

Just remember the ultimate focus is the movement as a whole, not this one presidential campaign.

Catatonic - it is those of us who do remember and keep to the goals who are still moving this campaign along....the campaign for Ron Paul and for Liberty are all wrapped up into one package, imo. We haven't changed, we understand the strategy, and we move forward. It is those who are begining this dot com and that dot com and promoting this 3rd party candidate and that 3rd party candidate who are pulling in diffrent directions. As one of the "older folk" on the board, I have always believed in sticking with the plan and seeing it through. In the long run, this is the tactic which tends to get the job done. One sure way of losing is to quit in the middle of a battle. Focus and forward!

 

[pendragon]

Catatonic - it is those of us who do remember and keep to the goals who are still moving this campaign along....the campaign for Ron Paul and for Liberty are all wrapped up into one package, imo. We haven't changed, we understand the strategy, and we move forward. It is those who are begining this dot com and that dot com and promoting this 3rd party candidate and that 3rd party candidate who are pulling in diffrent directions. As one of the "older folk" on the board, I have always believed in sticking with the plan and seeing it through. In the long run, this is the tactic which tends to get the job done. One sure way of losing is to quit in the middle of a battle. Focus and forward!

+1!

 

[michigan wolverine]

There is one thing that you do not take into account. More than enough delegates are legally bound to Mc Cain on the first ballot to give him the nomination. The only way for Ron Paul to have a chance is Mc Cain to pull out. Not going to happen.

 

[pauletteNV]

Pledged delegates do not necessarily have to vote their pledge on the first round. A delegate can also abstain the first round, or there could be a vote from the floor to unbind all the delegates. There are options. What if we go to war or the economy collapses before September 2? Opinions of those on the floor could very well change dramatically.

 

[michigan wolverine]

Don't try this arguement again. Each state will have a delgate foreman. One of his functions is take make sure all votes are placed. A delegate that choses to abstain will be replaced with an alternate. That is the purpose of the primary and caucus system.

Time to get realistic