Dr. Ben Carson, Not Rubio to be Rand's biggest challenger. (Opinion)

Cshelton21

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Don't get me wrong, I really like Dr. Carson but not as much as I like Rand.

With Rubio citing the great Wiz Kalifa and his watershed moment in every speech I see Rubio being far less of a threat to Rand's primary chances than Dr. Carson could be. Since his prayer breakfast bombing of the Obama administration and the liberal P.C. Police I really see some authentic support for him showing up on talk radio and on the internet.

In my fantasy ticket I would have Rand leading the ticket with Carson as VP. You could make all kinds of sweet ads and logos about Washington needing more doctors and less politicians. He actually operated on my friends skull when he was a kid. My friend still has very fond memory's of him

Nevertheless I think Carson has spent his life far enough outside of the establishment to actually be a good president if he ran and beat Rand in the primary.

what are your thoughts?
 
Uknown's do not win nominations... he's not going to go anywhere.

Look at history.

To suggest he can do better than a senator is absurd.
 
You're seriously underestimating him.

and that's a risk I don't think we can take.

Herman Cain being a good example. I have no doubts that HC could have clenched the nomination if establishment media didn't rip him apart over some he-said-she-said stuff.
 
He needs to walk back his gun comments or he will be slaughtered. I don't think he had bad intentions when he made them.
 
I heard him on talk radio early this week. I really don't think he's interested.
 
Comparing Ben Carson's intelligence to that of Herman Cain is insulting to Dr. Carson. He would make a great HHS secretary.
 
I heard him on talk radio early this week. I really don't think he's interested.
I get that feeling too. But I'm seeing him surface more and more.

I just think that the establishment could throw all of their weight behind Rubio and not even put a scratch on Rand. Maybe that's naive. but have someone catch on fire like Carson during a primary and the media could do nothing to him because his career was in pediatric neurosurgery. you can't attack this guy except for the guns comment.
 
Comparing Ben Carson's intelligence to that of Herman Cain is insulting to Dr. Carson. He would make a great HHS secretary.

You took that the wrong way. I was speaking on terms of a non politicians ability to win a primary, Carson is a intellectual giant standing next to Herman Cain.

Edit: I would Prefer him as Vice President to Rand.
 
Republicans would certainly entertain the notion of a black doctor as their nominee. Heck, this is why conservative talk hosts fall all over Allen West as an ace in the hole. With the way Carson took it to Obama he'd have a lot of love from the base. That said, I think he'd compliment Rand quite well tho I don't really know much about him.
 
Does this guy talk about Fed reserve? He says we shouldn't have same guns in inner city?

Why supermario do we need an HHS?
 
You took that the wrong way. I was speaking on terms of a non politicians ability to win a primary, Carson is a intellectual giant standing next to Herman Cain.

Edit: I would Prefer him as Vice President to Rand.

Yeah, I agree with you pretty much. I didn't make that comment as a refutation to you, moreso an observation to anyone else who might make the statement. I do agree with you about Cain. His lack of conviction in terms of demeanor really didn't help him out either. But I must admit, I did like Herman Cain for awhile as a second choice to Ron.


And about HHS, unless it gets axed, it will be there. If anything, I would have Carson help with a health-reform bill. Him being in HHS is probably inevitable. For example, we want the Fed gone, but until then I'd probably want Peter Schiff at Fed chair.
 
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West and Carson have zero chance at the nomination.

West cannot even win his congressional district. Carson is from Maryland which is a Democrat socialist state.

To suggest they can do better than senators on the national stage is absurd.

Cain also had no chance either.

When was the last unknown to win a nomination?
 
Cain did have a shot. I remember several weeks he was trending to steal the nomination from Romney. In the age of social media and the internet everything changed. Ronmey was the party bosses picks, just like the last 20 Republican Nominee's. the only reason He didn't lock it down on day one was because the old way of picking the Nominee was on its way out. This election will be all about electronic warfare who can use the internet to win the election. and that gives us an advantage, but it also opens up the potential for dark horse candidates to create real momentum and pull out a win.
 
I liked what a I heard from Ben Carson. He has zero chance. Not .01%. Zero point zero percent chance of being elected president in 2016.

The positives are he's famous surgeon and he's a black Republican. The negatives are that he's never held or run for office or been in government and now would be President? Not really a disqualifier but kind of is. What he actually says is okay. He has an okay understanding of the issues- for a doctor He's an okay speaker. But maybe it's just me but people like Rand Paul and even Chris Christie are light years better than Ben Carson. He is smarter and better than Herman Cain in just about every way. Not sure that's enough to be President.
 
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Cain did have a shot. I remember several weeks he was trending to steal the nomination from Romney. In the age of social media and the internet everything changed. Ronmey was the party bosses picks, just like the last 20 Republican Nominee's. the only reason He didn't lock it down on day one was because the old way of picking the Nominee was on its way out. This election will be all about electronic warfare who can use the internet to win the election. and that gives us an advantage, but it also opens up the potential for dark horse candidates to create real momentum and pull out a win.

Keep telling yourself that but really he had no shot and imploded faster than any candidate in recent memory.

Just because someone is on FOX news a lot does not mean they can win Iowa, New Hampshire and SC's presidential polls. It is a mammoth undertaking and can't just be won by being on tv or the radio a lot or even big on the internet or talked about by the chattering classes.

Social media does not change an Iowa's residents mind or garner their support. Maybe good for raising money and your profile but pretty useless at winning actual states and therefore the presidential nomination.
 
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Keep telling yourself that but really he had no shot and imploded faster than any candidate in recent memory.

Just because someone is on FOX news a lot does not mean they can win Iowa, New Hampshire and SC's presidential polls. It is a mammoth undertaking and can't just be won by being on tv or the radio a lot or even big on the internet or talked about by the chattering classes.

Social media does not change an Iowa's residents mind or garner their support. Maybe good for raising money and your profile but pretty useless at winning actual states and therefore the presidential nomination.

Obama was polling, for almost a year, 20% lower than Clinton before winning Iowa.
 
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