Doug Wead: War Breaks Out in GOP

[No1butPaul]

umm.. why did you quote me? your criticisms are with butchie... you seem confused.

Oopsies, my mistake! Sorry about that! I corrected that in my post.

 

[georgiaboy]

The GOP and state GOP parties are only hurting their cause. Their caucus rules, were MADE to be GAMED! Frankly, I have always thought caucus's were bullstuff, and delegates should be chosen by proportional vote in all states and territories, all the time.

I used to think that, too, until I witnessed first hand what the mainstream media machine can do to a candidate when they put their effort toward it. I now realize why the republican process is better than a strictly democratic one.

For instance, Ron was asked these same questions over and over again at every single interview by the mediasphere, even after nearly winning Iowa:

1. Will you support the eventual nominee?
2. When are you dropping out?
3. Will you run third party?

Sickening, and only the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Butchie]

people that question fraud? you agree with the mainstream that they are conspiracy nuts? and you don't want them supporting ron paul? you also are criticizing someone on here that just wants the truth about google/youtube tampering with the view counts? i can tell you for a fact that google has been fighting this movement ever since they bought out youtube and they will do anything in their power to hurt freedom lovers.

do you know why they tamper with the view counts?

we have enough on our plate fighting these organized criminals without you criticizing us. stop helping the oligarchs.

please oh great butchie... tell us which "crying wolf conspiracy" has damaged us the most?

Uh gee, maybe 9/11, NWO, Zionist Bankers, Illuminati, I could go on. But, since you obviously misunderstood my post let me try to make it a little clearer to you: I never said pointing out fraud was wrong and I clearly stated my post was not directed at the particular individual, my statement was directed at people like yourself who make all kind of wild claims based on theory and nothing more ie: "i can tell you for a fact that google has been fighting this movement ever since they bought out youtube and they will do anything in their power to hurt freedom lovers."

So, if YOU say it's fact, well, guess that's enough proof for me, call the cops, hang those guys. You come back here and show me absolute proof where you've caught some google CEO tampering with view counts and I'll believe you. If people have proof of something by all means share it, but 90% of the stuff I see is just a bunch of nonsense conspiracy theories, and yes I will criticize it because it puts a bad stigma on the rest of us which we have to combat constantly.

 

[Butchie]

Geez, it's not like I mentioned Bilderberg or anything ... which may I add, turned out not to be a "conspiracy theory" after all. I've also pointed out before, on this formum, that Google is one of RP's top 5 contributing organizations.

Do you think maybe you are directing your frustration in the wrong direction on this? It has led this thread down-hill, but I'm not going to just remain quiet as I'm being accused of being a "conspiracy theorist" for my simple question, which was based on D.W.'s statement. By the way, calling people conspiracy theorists is just playing into the propaganda. There are probably a large number of Alex Jones listeners that support Ron Paul, you don't need to insult them.

This is just my opinion.

You may have missed where I was very clear to state I wasn't refering to you personally, so let me say it again: My statement was not directed at you, if you misread it and thought I was attacking you I apologize. Also, and others have said this as well, Alex Jones listeners likely cost us 10 votes for every 1, most Americans are not interested in cospiracy theories, especially Republicans, bring up 9/11 and they'll stone you, so EVEN IF any of that is true, I'd say it's best to keep it to yourself for now wouldn't you agree?

 

[FSP-Rebel]

I used to think that, too, until I witnessed first hand what the mainstream media machine can do to a candidate when they put their effort toward it. I now realize why the republican process is better than a strictly democratic one.

Yup

 

[trey4sports]

Uh gee, maybe 9/11, NWO, Zionist Bankers, Illuminati, I could go on. But, since you obviously misunderstood my post let me try to make it a little clearer to you: I never said pointing out fraud was wrong and I clearly stated my post was not directed at the particular individual, my statement was directed at people like yourself who make all kind of wild claims based on theory and nothing more ie: "i can tell you for a fact that google has been fighting this movement ever since they bought out youtube and they will do anything in their power to hurt freedom lovers."

So, if YOU say it's fact, well, guess that's enough proof for me, call the cops, hang those guys. You come back here and show me absolute proof where you've caught some google CEO tampering with view counts and I'll believe you. If people have proof of something by all means share it, but 90% of the stuff I see is just a bunch of nonsense conspiracy theories, and yes I will criticize it because it puts a bad stigma on the rest of us which we have to combat constantly.

Obviously you're not awake like me n kitty.

 

[sailingaway]

Obviously you're not awake like me n kitty.

that cat realizes it should be tin foil, not aluminum foil. You can tell.

 

[TruckinMike]

that cat realizes it should be tin foil, not aluminum foil. You can tell.

No, aluminum is fine the problem is that there is no path to ground. Without a path to ground the waves will imply bounce around in your skull -- Its obvious that kitty knows better.

Heel grounding strap:

 

[BenMuldowney]

Uh gee, maybe 9/11, NWO, Zionist Bankers, Illuminati, I could go on. But, since you obviously misunderstood my post let me try to make it a little clearer to you: I never said pointing out fraud was wrong and I clearly stated my post was not directed at the particular individual, my statement was directed at people like yourself who make all kind of wild claims based on theory and nothing more ie: "i can tell you for a fact that google has been fighting this movement ever since they bought out youtube and they will do anything in their power to hurt freedom lovers."

So, if YOU say it's fact, well, guess that's enough proof for me, call the cops, hang those guys. You come back here and show me absolute proof where you've caught some google CEO tampering with view counts and I'll believe you. If people have proof of something by all means share it, but 90% of the stuff I see is just a bunch of nonsense conspiracy theories, and yes I will criticize it because it puts a bad stigma on the rest of us which we have to combat constantly.

it wasnt that long ago i had to argue with douche bags about the federal reserve being a private bank... i was called every name in the book. the most frequent smear was that i was an anti-semite. let's see... how far back does this go? ohhh... back to the late 80's. i'm sure you were on the other side of this argument most of your life.

 

[Butchie]

it wasnt that long ago i had to argue with douche bags about the federal reserve being a private bank... i was called every name in the book. the most frequent smear was that i was an anti-semite. let's see... how far back does this go? ohhh... back to the late 80's. i'm sure you were on the other side of this argument most of your life.

Actually, I never gave a rats ass about politics till about a year ago, so no, I haven't been on any "side", I also didn't call you any names and are you implying I'm now the new "douche bag" because I don't buy into conspiracies?

Look, are there rich people trying to get richer in life, sure, are there powerful people trying for more power, ofcourse, that's life as it has always been since the dawn of man, is that a secret or a conspriacy, is there some group of super-villain geniuses hiding in a fotress of doom somewhere secretly pulling the worlds strings with flawless perfection and only people like you who are even more of a super genius than the super genius villain can figure out their dastardly plots - NO.

 

[No1butPaul]

You may have missed where I was very clear to state I wasn't refering to you personally, so let me say it again: My statement was not directed at you, if you misread it and thought I was attacking you I apologize. Also, and others have said this as well, Alex Jones listeners likely cost us 10 votes for every 1, most Americans are not interested in cospiracy theories, especially Republicans, bring up 9/11 and they'll stone you, so EVEN IF any of that is true, I'd say it's best to keep it to yourself for now wouldn't you agree?

No problem, it was really the original post that I felt was misdirected at me. I understand what you are saying, but I also think Alex Jones gets a bad rap when I think he deserves a heck of a lot of credit for waking people up. If not for him, many of his followers very well may have not come to support Ron Paul. Sure, Alex Jones is over the top, but I still think he deserves credit too. A whole lot of credit. In some ways it has hurt, and in some ways it has helped.

I just have to add to this, the people that have hurt our movement the most, are not the ones that listen to Alex Jones or the ones that question everything, it is the brainwashed followers that listen to the MSM and believe everything they hear! Those are the people that have hurt the movement.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

con·spir·a·cy   /kənˈspɪrəsi/ [kuhn-spir-uh-see]
noun, plural con·spir·a·cies.
1. the act of conspiring.
2. an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3. a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.
4. Law . an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.
5. any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.

 

[No1butPaul]

con·spir·a·cy   /kənˈspɪrəsi/ [kuhn-spir-uh-see]
noun, plural con·spir·a·cies.
1. the act of conspiring.
2. an evil, unlawful, treacherous, or surreptitious plan formulated in secret by two or more persons; plot.
3. a combination of persons for a secret, unlawful, or evil purpose: He joined the conspiracy to overthrow the government.
4. Law . an agreement by two or more persons to commit a crime, fraud, or other wrongful act.
5. any concurrence in action; combination in bringing about a given result.

oh no, that never happens ... not in our world.

 

[J_White]

was recording not allowed ?

Here is a link that works if this is the same video.

 

[patriot2008]

Alex Jones is not a bad guy at all! Lots of us came to Ron and liberty through links, vids, other websites, whatever connected to him. How long you been on the internet?
Well, 10-15+ years ago the only information/communication available on Ron Paul, and many of his Ideas, most of what we stand for, and fight against went through practically all the same link and video connections as Alex Jones Period! He's like a Hyper Cheerleeder. So what that he makes some money on his websites that get tons of traffic. Any websites that get tons of traffic generate income. Glenn Beck is the Crook and Phoney! I've never seen anything real bad about Alex in all my years.
Alex is just Alex. Look at some of his earliest stuff in Austin, he's a good guy with a good heart.
Don't blindly believe anything anyone tells you! I still look into stuff first reported by Alex, he's quick, almost too quick, but I also look for lots of other sources on the same info as the information evolves. I do the same for almost every info link posted in this forum or even on MSM.

....and as far as view counts/censorship on youtube, I've personally seen this many times against alex jones videos posted there. I still like youtube better than any MSM, but just saying.

 

[No1butPaul]

Alex Jones is not a bad guy at all! Lots of us came to Ron and liberty through links, vids, other websites, whatever connected to him. How long you been on the internet?

Case in point:

Ron Paul (to Alex): "You know me well enough that probably the last 30 years, especially the last 10 years since we've know each other ...

 

[Eisenhower]

Are you saying Alex Jones has only known him since the last 10 years? I didn't check the date of that video, but Alex Jones has talked about RP since the 90s....

 

[patriot2008]

Are you saying Alex Jones has only known him since the last 10 years? I didn't check the date of that video, but Alex Jones has talked about RP since the 90s....

You are right about him talking about Ron. I'm thinking 10 years or so is when they've personally started talking to each other or have done personal interviews.

 

[No1butPaul]

Are you saying Alex Jones has only known him since the last 10 years? I didn't check the date of that video, but Alex Jones has talked about RP since the 90s....

That was a direct quote from RP. The video is January 19, 2012....so not old. It really is an interesting interview, you should listen to it!!!

 

[ryanmkeisling]

Yeah, so I think Doug Wead is saying Ron Paul will be the nominee!