Doug Wead: Some things about the Ron Paul campaign can't be discussed right now

[2young2vote]

I'm not voting for Romney, even if Ron has a VP spot. That is all I'm going to say.

 

[Ivash]

My guess:

The campaign knows they can't control the grass roots, Ron has said on many occasions he doesn't control us. Ron knows the delegates won't back Romney for just platform concessions- our delegates have only 1 goal: nominate Ron Paul by any means necessary. So, the best Romney can hope for if we control 2/3 of the delegates is to have a smooth convention. Here is the deal- Romney gives his speech endorsing Ron Paul for nominee and says he hopes to be considered for Vice. Ron Paul delegates go hog wild, nominate Ron Paul, he says he wants Romney for VP. The deal that couldn't be spoken of for 10 years is a deal where Ron Paul becomes president, Romney VP and then Paul steps down after 4 years and either assumes VP or Rand does. Romney will then get to have Potus.

Tl;dr
Ron potus, Romney veep first term. Romney potus, Paul veep second term.

It won't happen. I can't believe anyone even thinks this is possible.

 

[MarcusI]

I wouldn't be so sure about your assumption.

I was sitting next to a sweater-vest wearing Santorum supporter at the Maine Convention. After 5-10 minutes of conversation, he asked me if he could copy our slate. Then, he and his wife voted along with us and were ultimately the last 2 votes we needed to secure the Chairman of the Convention that we selected. Without them voting with us, hard telling what would have happened in Maine.

Yeah I know the story and the hardcore Santorum fans probably would even rather vote for Paul than for Romney. But I think the delegates, who are going to represent Santorum in Tampa will mostly vote Romney when unbound.

 

[SludgeFactory]

Please don't vote for the least of two evils. Find someone you can truly support or don't vote at all. Your one vote is not all that important in the grand scheme of things, and all your defiance will earn you is complicity with every illegal action that Obama engages in. The effect of a single vote in a national campaign is not worth selling your soul over.

Agreed, if you are going to vote for evil, might as well vote for the greatest evil:

Personally, I prefer the 2008 platform

http://cthulhu2008.blogspot.com/

 

[papitosabe]

after all RP has done for the liberty movement, people think he made a deal with the devil???? what the hell?? none of us know, so how about something positive, instead of so much negativity, and putting those thoughts into other supporters that may take that and quit campaigning for RP... if you have info based on facts and evidence, please provide them...until then, you know nothing...to the rest of real RP supporters, Don't Retreat!! HOLD THE LINE, and PUSH FORWARD!!!!

 

[SludgeFactory]

Rand Paul voted FOR this? OMFG.

I heard about this somewhere else earlier today and would certainly like to know more on if he really did and, if so, why.

 

[cindy25]

I want Ron to win.

I could live with a VP deal and vote for Romney.

I could live with platform changes and vote for GJ.

depends on the platform changes; has to include military (offense not defense) cuts

 

[susano]

I heard about this somewhere else earlier today and would certainly like to know more on if he really did and, if so, why.

See the Rand section of this forum. I found a thread on it and posted to it so it should be on the first page. Apparently, it was one of those deals where if nobody (senators) objected it was passed. He didn't object. WTF??? I'm not a Rand fan but this is really a slap in the face, right there with the PATRIOT Act and NDAA.

When he was first running and after I sent him 50 bucks, I got an email from his campaign about his standing with Israel. From that very moment, I deeply regretted giving my money and making the stupid assumption that he was anything like his father. My bad.

 

[susano]

I can't see Ron Paul making any deals with Romney or accepting being Romney's flunky (veep). Talk of influencing the GOP platform is a joke. Who ever follows the platform? That's meaningless. Ron Paul certainly knows that.

I'm not voting for any Zionist war mongering neocon globalist, EVER. I wouldn't care if Jesus Christ was his running mate.

 

[cindy25]

I'm not voting for Romney, even if Ron has a VP spot. That is all I'm going to say.

1 in 6 presidents were VP first

 

[speciallyblend]

I wouldn't be so sure about your assumption.

I was sitting next to a sweater-vest wearing Santorum supporter at the Maine Convention. After 5-10 minutes of conversation, he asked me if he could copy our slate. Then, he and his wife voted along with us and were ultimately the last 2 votes we needed to secure the Chairman of the Convention that we selected. Without them voting with us, hard telling what would have happened in Maine.

This video has nothing to do with the Santorum supporter, just the results of Chairman and Secretary of the Convention.

nice , i am not sure why folks think santorum folks will line up by romney. the pro-life is a huge issue to them and at the colorado convention i found many santorum allies. If we did not have the santorum folks . We would of got slaughter saturday at convention and probably not done as well on friday

 

[Guzabuza]

Most of you here are jumping the gun way to early. Why all this negativity ? I find it funny that here on Ron Paul forums, the atmosphere is like in the stock market. Goes in cycles from euphoria to negativity and then to euphoria again, hehehe.... =)

Could it not be that Ron knows that the campaign will have a lot of delegates? Maybe even more then Romney? Think about that, what if you knew that you have more delegates, would you go and scream it out loud right before the convention so that the GOP has time to prepare and counter this in some way at the convention OR will you start sending counter intuitive messages like... well yea, Romney has a lot of delegates we don't know exactly if we are able to beat him.

Let the enemy feel secure before the battle and then cut him down in the midst of the final clash!

 

[LibertyEagle]

Dr. Paul didn't make any deals, people.

 

[affa]

Ron Paul or not at all.

No deal. Unless that deal is Ron Paul as president, ending the wars, and ending the Fed. Then, maybe, a deal.

 

[CPUd]

Dr. Paul didn't make any deals, people.

I don't think so either. At least, not in the sense as is being discussed in this thread. Listening to the whole interview with Wead, especially the part at the end right before he said Ron and Rand are the 'real deal', he's putting out a clear message that those kind of deals are not the kind that Ron has ever done, and note the emphasis he places on that statement.

Also, I believe if there were such a deal being sought by the other side, Ron wouldn't agree to anything that is against the best interests of the grassroots.

The RNC and Romney camp really have no choice but to deal with the grassroots; unfortunately, they're not very good at that, it seems.

 

[speciallyblend]

bottom line any negativity was created by the ron paul campaign by what they said. The campaign screwed up by what they said. They are the ones that started this demotivation. They should choose their words more carefully. It is the campaign that has had to reassure and back track to try to fend this off because they started the BULLSHIT!!!! People are fin upset because we are all working our butts off to win the nomination. It is and was like someone hitting you with a baseball bat while your trying to WIN and fight for Ron Paul. The problem is the gop establishment not ron paul supporters. to much to argue now but it is fin bullshit! I hope the campaign just blacks themselves out if they are not going to help us fight or back the grassroots up. The gop establishment is what ron paul should be directing his attention to not grassroots. fighting state gop's breaking rules. I hope this is all a false flag created by the rp hq? either way it is very damaging to the grassroots and motivating folks to get involved. I have plan a- Ron Paul and plan b Gary Johnson, i do not even want to consider plan c-obama over romney. I wanna hear IN IT TO WIN IT, not what i have heard the last few days. It sure brought me to reality, i better plan for plan b a lil more.

 

[WeThePeople777]

Whatever's happening, will certainly be interesting...

 

[RickyJ]

Whatever's happening, will certainly be interesting...

Yeah, I think we would all like to know the "secret" that he just can't tell us.

 

[Mordan]

I have decided I will likely vote for Obama. It's not the lesser of two evils. It's a strategic move to increase the likelihood that a liberty candidate might be competitive in 2016. It's beginning to make a lot of sense to me. The worst outcome for The Revolution is a Mittens victory in November.

+1111

If the Liberty movement wants to continue growing, we need the GOP down in shambles with Romney losing. I do not want Ron or Rand as VP. That would be the worst. The Establishment would co-op us and destroy us from within.

 

[Jarg]

Hopefully he got something good from romney LOL like audit of fed or any thing... not just fucken good speaking time