Doug Wead: “how the establishment will steal the nomination from Donald Trump"

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Doug Wead: “how the establishment will steal the nomination from Donald Trump"

Coming this Monday, “how the establishment will steal the nomination from Donald Trump”

On Monday I will publish a point by point account of how the Republican establishment will now try to steal the nomination from Donald Trump. It will be completely documented with stories and videos showing the process from the precinct level to the State level and onto the convention floor itself in Cleveland.

It will be a valuable roadmap for what to expect and how the attacks will come and in some cases, the names of the operatives who will be hired to do the work.

I am just finishing some of the details.

https://dougwead.wordpress.com/2016...-will-steal-the-nomination-from-donald-trump/

UPDATE:

How the establishment will now try to steal the nomination from Donald Trump

Warning to the Trumpets. It ain’t over. It is just beginning.

Below are a list of tactics that Establishment Republicans may use to block the nomination of Donald Trump. Yes, I know. If they succeed they will not win the White House but many in the establishment will make just as much money under a Democrat insider as they will with a Republican insider. So they may not care.

All they may want to do is send the message to any future “outsider” candidate, “This is our party and you need our approval to participate. If you try to do this without us we will destroy you.”

These tactics were used in 2012 to keep Libertarian insurgents from winning delegates to the Republican National Convention. The fear was that Ron Paul would be able to place his name in nomination and give a speech about capital cronyism and how big corporations use the system to corrupt free enterprise. Donald Trump can learn from our experience.

What was at stake in 2012? Money. What’s at stake now? Money.

But why will low level party stalwarts who don’t get that money play along and do the bidding of the big party leaders?

To keep their positions as State, County or Precinct Chairmen. Power. Ego. Prestige. They want that all expenses paid trip to the Republican National Convention. Booze. Free corporate gifts. A box of Godiva chocolates left on their pillow in their room each night. They know that candidates like Trump come and go but the party infrastructure, financed by companies and their lobbyists, remain forever.

Here’s what the new Trump supporters can expect. (Carefully follow the links to stories below to see the actual videos and read the details of how these things happened in 2012.)

#1) Cruz, Rubio, Kasich and Romney will cooperate with each other to help block Trump outsiders at key County and State conventions. There is nothing wrong with this. Just don’t be taken by surprise. You may have most of the delegates at the local event and still lose to this combination. Make your own deals with Chairmen and other party officials before its too late.

#2) The RNC Rules Committee will likely change the rules back to a five state requirement needed to put a name in nomination at the Convention. This will make it easier to nominate Rubio, Cruz, Kasich and even Romney. Trump operatives should block this change and keep it at eight, which was originally designed to protect Romney, the expected incumbent.

#3) Make sure that you have your own people chosen as delegates to the convention. The insiders will fight you to the death over this, saying that it doesn’t matter, that you won the primary or the caucus and so the actual delegates are bound by law to vote for you anyway. (Not true.)

They will say that the governor and the senator and the old former chairman, who has been to every RNC since Eisenhower, should be able to represent their state. Be courteous and reasonable but you also need large numbers of your own reliable Trump supporters chosen as delegates.

Keep in mind, the only rules that bind the delegates are the rules of the party and those very delegates can change those rules.

What if there is a media hyped Trump scandal and the party votes to “unbind” the delegates on the first ballot? Then they can vote for whomever they wish.

What if Trump does not win on the first ballot and there is a second ballot? They will then vote their real choice and you will have lost all of those states you thought you had won in primaries.

#4) The place of the caucus that selects the actual delegates who go to the district or state convention may suddenly change without your knowledge. Linked by a telephone chain the insiders will meet without you. Your folks will show up at one hotel and the meeting will take place at another.

#5) The time of the meeting may suddenly change. Your people can show up and find that the building is locked and authorities will say you are too late to be allowed in to participate. This happened many times in 2012, with hundreds of screaming voters left outside.

#6) The chairman may say “Ayes have it,” even if they don’t. This happens at the precinct, county, district, state and even national level. What are you going to do about it? Sue? Meanwhile, their winning precinct delegation will go onto the State Convention as delegates representing your opponent.

You may appeal to the RNC for justice and they may support the cheaters because you don’t have enough of your own people as delegates serving on the Rules Committee.

#7) Off duty police may arrest and detain your newly elected Donald Trump GOP officers. Yep, that happened to us. Your people may be kept for hours in jail cells and those who protest may be arrested as well.

#8) Precinct, Country, State leaders may charge a last minute tax. This happened in 2012 in Alaska. Voters who had not been tipped off could not vote without paying $10. Credit cards not accepted. This worked so well at excluding voters in Alaska that Romney operatives used it in King County, Washington. They also turned away young people who did not appear on their outdated voter registration lists.

#9) If the Caucus Chairman is replaced or does not like the outcome of the vote they may suddenly declare the process invalid. For example, they may say that the new chairman is a Trump partisan and thus it is now a Trump event and the GOP insurance for the event is invalid and thus the meeting is ended. See the video above.

#10) State Conventions will prepare ballots misspelling Trump and then later discount them in the voting for those pledged delegates.

#11) Fake ballots will be distributed listing establishment names as the official Trump delegates, confusing the voters. They may also try to split the Trump slate by nominating competing Trump delegates with real names of public figures.

#12) Counting the ballots at the various conventions will be an exhausting business with delays, postponements until the next day, seals broken on the voting boxes, and all kinds of chicanery.

#13) They may cancel the voting due to weather in a key precinct that is heavily Trump, throwing the State. Even though the weather turns out to be fine in the given precinct.

#14) At convention you may find hotel rooms cancelled. And other rooms may be bugged. They may arrange for the bus bringing your delegates to the Rules Committee to get lost and changes to convention rules may happen in your absence.

#15) When you leave the RNC don’t think it’s over. A Ron Paul delegate was detained by TSA at the airport leaving Tampa when bullets were found in their packed luggage.

The idea is to make you so sick, so weary, so beaten down that you will never, ever, even dare challenge the establishment that runs the Republican Party again. Ever.

Here is the message. It doesn’t belong to you. As in the case of the Democratic Party, it belongs to the insiders, the rich and powerful who make money from a rigged economy that favors a few at the expense of the many. Donald Trump is too independent and too unpredictable for them.

You have been warned. Good luck.

(Tomorrow? Why some Libertarians now like Donald Trump. Why some like Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio? Why some have moved all the way over to the left.)

 

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NATIONAL REVIEW
— Jonah Goldberg is a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and a senior editor of National Review.

Memo to Trump Backers: The Rules Permit a Brokered Convention


When losing to the star of a reality TV show, is it really so crazy to resort to reality-show tactics to defeat him?

I’m not referring to Marco Rubio’s decision to fight fire with fire with Donald Trump and return insult for insult. I, for one, thought it was wholly appropriate for Rubio to give the schoolyard bully a taste of his own medicine. The evidence shows that Rubio’s attacks, while tardy, paid off. Voters not already enraptured with Trump are open to persuasion, and late deciders broke disproportionately for Rubio on Super Tuesday in most races.

Indeed, once again, most voters voted against Trump, not for him, and that’s where reality-show tactics come in.

Not counting Top Chef and Naked and Afraid, I’m not a big fan of reality shows, but I’ve watched my share of Survivor, The Bachelor, and even Trump’s own personal propaganda series, The Apprentice. It seems to me that in many of these shows, the game is played the same way: Groups form alliances. Sometimes these alliances are formal, often they are tacit and voluntary — but they are all temporary.

At the end of the season, the winner is the guy or gal who was in the right alliance until the alliance no longer served his or her needs. Fans may be happy or disappointed based on who emerges, but it’s silly to say that Tiffany stole the Bachelor from Rhonda. That’s simply how the game is played.

Well, welcome to the big leagues. Trump has been playing the game all along, and now that he’s ahead, he doesn’t think anyone should be allowed to change their tactics to beat him.

If this had been a two-person race from the beginning — as the Democratic race has been since Iowa — Trump would probably be as far behind as Bernie Sanders is. But Trump took advantage of the fact that the Republican field was so divided for so long. Nothing wrong with that.

But there’s also nothing wrong with trying to stop Trump. Alliances are part of the game. The delegate system allows for it. And that’s why Mitt Romney’s advice in his powerful anti-Trump speech Thursday was entirely valid. If you’re against Trump and you live in Ohio, vote for John Kasich. If you’re against Trump in Florida, vote for Rubio. If you’re against Trump in a state where Ted Cruz is ahead, vote for Cruz.

Starting March 15, primary winners get all of a state’s delegates. Losers don’t even get steak knives. In proportional Virginia, Rubio lost to Trump, but Trump got only one more delegate than Rubio. If no one gets to the convention with a majority of the delegates, the convention chooses a nominee. It might be Trump. Then again, it might not.

This may feel like cheating, but it isn’t. It’s just that conventions have been infomercials for so long, we’re not used to the idea that one might actually matter. Also, for the last 50 years, any candidate who could make it past Super Tuesday as a front-runner was acceptable to a majority of the party, and the pressure to coalesce was strong. Things are different this time because Trump is different. His supporters — many of whom are not Republicans, Trump is fond of noting — may not like it, but the man is simply unacceptable to many conservatives.

When you say this to Trump supporters, they reply by hurling a word salad about a shadowy organization called “The Establishment” that’s working to thwart the will of the majority. Talk-radio hosts rant about this cabal’s effort to “steal” the nomination from Trump.

For instance, Romney’s speech was denounced by many as an outrageous effort to sway voters. Similar criticisms were made when the magazine I work for, National Review, dedicated a special issue to opposing Trump.

“How dare you try to tell voters how to vote!” cried countless pro-Trump cable-news commentators, pundits, and radio hosts. It’s a fascinating complaint coming from people who make a living by offering their opinions on how voters should vote.

It’s also nonsense. If opposing Trump is now the definition of the establishment, then roughly 66 percent of GOP primary voters are members of the establishment. The “silent majority” isn’t a majority and most certainly isn’t silent. Alas, “The Loud Plurality for Trump!” doesn’t look as good on homemade signs at rallies.

Trump is stoppable, according to the rules. And if he is stopped and that makes you sad, don’t hate the players, hate the game.

 

[Aratus]

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[thoughtomator]

Those of us who have actually gotten our hands dirty trying to reform the GOP from the inside - and I realize now I'm only talking to a handful of people on this site - will probably be nodding our heads at each and every one of Wead's points.

Hell, I could probably write the script myself just derived from my own personal experiences. The nominal GOP vs. Democrat rivalry looks like a pillow fight compared to what the GOP insiders do to outsiders.

 

[Aratus]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to thoughtomator again.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

On the one hand, I'd be delighted if the GOP stole the nomination from him, as he's the very worst of all remaining candidates.

On the other hand, I want his "movement" to dissolve as quickly as possible, and any perception of foul-play on the part of the party leadership will only delay this.

So, best to let things play out naturally; let him win the nomination and then get smashed in the general.

 

[openfire]

On the one hand, I'd be delighted if the GOP stole the nomination from him, as he's the very worst of all remaining candidates.

On the other hand, I want his "movement" to dissolve as quickly as possible, and any perception of foul-play on the part of the party leadership will only delay this.

So, best to let things play out naturally; let him win the nomination and then get smashed in the general.

The last scenario in which we lose SCOTUS is by far the worst.

 

[thoughtomator]

The last scenario in which we lose SCOTUS is by far the worst.

We lost SCOTUS before anybody alive today was born and never got it back.

Nor will we get it back until at least five justices are appointed by a liberty President.

 

[dannno]

On the one hand, I'd be delighted if the GOP stole the nomination from him, as he's the very worst of all remaining candidates.

On the other hand, I want his "movement" to dissolve as quickly as possible, and any perception of foul-play on the part of the party leadership will only delay this.

So, best to let things play out naturally; let him win the nomination and then get smashed in the general.

I'm not so sure that a really good argument can be made that he is the worst of the GOP candidates.

He understands hard money, believes interest rates are too low, wants to audit the fed and has the least aggressive foreign policy of all the candidates.

On the other hand, he doesn't really have much respect for freedom or the Constitution, which is a big downside no doubt..

But as we saw on the other thread, Gingrich outed Trump as someone who doesn't participate in the elite's secret societies, and so they have no control over him in that respect.

Do you really think a puppet of the elite is better than Trump? Do you really think the elite have any respect for the Constitution or are any better than Donald Trump? Do you believe a globalist society would be better than nationalist?

 

[thoughtomator]

but, Danno....


MUH LAWNS!


/Battered Serf Syndrome Sufferer

 

[Son_of_Liberty90]

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But as we saw on the other thread, Gingrich outed Trump as someone who doesn't participate in the elite's secret societies, and so they have no control over him in that respect.

Source? This could be more smoke and mirrors rhetoric. Trump mentioned the CFR president in the debates

 

[dannno]

Source? This could be more smoke and mirrors rhetoric. Trump mentioned the CFR president in the debates

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...e-%93Didn%92t-Belong-to-the-Secret-Society%94


CFR is not really a secret society, we are talking Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove type stuff. Trump may have spoken to CFR, I don't think he is a member though.

You're correct that it could be possible the establishment is trying to trick people into thinking Trump is an outsider. Pretty elaborate, but certainly possible.

I don't support Trump because I don't know what his true motivations are, I don't know who is backing him and he holds quite a few anti-liberty positions.. but I haven't seen a good argument that he is worse than the establishment candidates, per se.. The establishment candidates are doing what they are doing to get elected, Ted Cruz can talk as much liberty jargon as he wants but ultimately him and others are beholden to the establishment. Trump may be too, but I'm not 100% convinced of it.

 

[Valli6]

Doug Wead: How the establishment wil try to steal the nomination 3/7/16

https://dougwead.wordpress.com

How the establishment will now try to steal the nomination from Donald Trump
March 7, 2016

Warning to the Trumpets. It ain’t over. It is just beginning.

Below are a list of tactics that Establishment Republicans may use to block the nomination of Donald Trump. Yes, I know. If they succeed they will not win the White House but many in the establishment will make just as much money under a Democrat insider as they will with a Republican insider. So they may not care.

All they may want to do is send the message to any future “outsider” candidate, “This is our party and you need our approval to participate. If you try to do this without us we will destroy you.”

These tactics were used in 2012 to keep Libertarian insurgents from winning delegates to the Republican National Convention. The fear was that Ron Paul would be able to place his name in nomination and give a speech about capital cronyism and how big corporations use the system to corrupt free enterprise. Donald Trump can learn from our experience.

What was at stake in 2012? Money. What’s at stake now? Money.

But why will low level party stalwarts who don’t get that money play along and do the bidding of the big party leaders?

To keep their positions as State, County or Precinct Chairmen. Power. Ego. Prestige. They want that all expenses paid trip to the Republican National Convention. Booze. Free corporate gifts. A box of Godiva chocolates left on their pillow in their room each night. They know that candidates like Trump come and go but the party infrastructure, financed by companies and their lobbyists, remain forever.

Here’s what the new Trump supporters can expect. (Carefully follow the links to stories below to see the actual videos and read the details of how these things happened in 2012.)

#1) Cruz, Rubio, Kasich and Romney will cooperate with each other to help block Trump outsiders at key County and State conventions. There is nothing wrong with this. Just don’t be taken by surprise. You may have most of the delegates at the local event and still lose to this combination. Make your own deals with Chairmen and other party officials before its too late.

#2) The RNC Rules Committee will likely change the rules back to a five state requirement needed to put a name in nomination at the Convention. This will make it easier to nominate Rubio, Cruz, Kasich and even Romney. Trump operatives should block this change and keep it at eight, which was originally designed to protect Romney, the expected incumbent.

(MUCH MORE) https://dougwead.wordpress.com

Can someone tweet this to Trump? or put it on his facebook page? (I'm not registered for that stuff)

 

[jllundqu]

The RNC (and DNC for that matter) will do what the Oligarchy wants.

Never forget:

 

[Jan2017]

CFR is not really a secret society,

...
Gingrich outed Trump as someone who doesn't participate in the elite's secret societies, and so they have no control over him in that respect.

Do you really think a puppet of the elite is better than Trump?
Do you really think the elite have any respect for the Constitution ? ...

next meeting on Wednesday in Florida ?


.

 

[69360]

I won't lie, I hope they do steal the nomination from Trump. He is a disgrace and the ends justify the means in this case.

 

[ProBlue33]

Reading that list made me angry, Doug lived through all that too, what a joke.

So you guys want what happened to Ron Paul rolled out on Trump, interesting, I guess you only believe in an honest democratic process when it's our guys.
That is some hypocrisy, sad really.

 

[KEEF]

I hope they try to steal the nomination and Trump (if he truly is the anti establishment) calls out the broken two party system. Then let the whole party crash from there.

 

[georgiaboy]

Reading that list made me angry, Doug lived through all that too, what a joke.

So you guys want what happened to Ron Paul rolled out on Trump, interesting, I guess you only believe in an honest democratic process when it's our guys.
That is some hypocrisy, sad really.

Gotta agree with this. I don't wish that toxic environment on anybody. I was and still am flabbergasted, sickened, and appalled at what I've witnessed the GOP, both rank and file and leadership, do to manipulate results and flat out cheat, break their own rules, lie, and actually live with themselves afterward.


And these are my fellow Americans, Republicans, Conservatives, blah, blah, blah.

I hope Doug's post gets to Donald himself, and he calls them out on their plan to derail his delegates now and loud.

I'll not vote for the man, but I wish on no one the gauntlet we've had to run these past 8 years.

ETA -- The MSM can take a flying leap, too.

 

[unknown]

IMHO, Doug Wead was excellent when he was part of the campaign.

Doesnt take much research to realize what Trump is really about, much of it is right here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?480115-Trump-Opposition-Research-Thread

With Rand out of the race, the remaining candidates are a bunch of turds in one big pile of shit.

That having been said, I dont like this blatant subversion by the establishment.

It would have been difficult to imagine someone worse than a self-righteous, dickhead like Cruz and an establishment minion like Rubio, but there he is: Donald Chump.

But if people are fucking stupid, retarded, misguided, clueless, uneducated and asshole-ish enough to support this asswipe, so be it.

Thats what this shit process is supposed to be about.