Don't throw away your vote - Ron Paul

Um... This is exactly the "either/or" proposition he was discussing. Ron Paul most definitely "gets it".

Apparently not.

Hillary Clinton is little more than a secret agent of the cabal.

Attila the Trump is just a non-libertarian billionaire that has gone off the reservation.
 
LOL You think "principles" is why Frank Luntz was smiling like the Cheshire cat? Let me enlighten you: Frank Luntz was happy at the prospect of Ron Paul supporters throwing their vote to a 3rd party, ie AWAY from Trump in the general. He wants Hillary Clinton to win because Frank Luntz is a ZIONIST who knows what Hillary's foreign policy is, and which country in the middle east America's blood and treasure will benefit under neocon Hillary Clinton.

Pfft, principles.

I did not say that Frank Luntz was standing on principles. In fact I said I could care less if standing for principle makes Frank Luntz happy. In other words, I'm standing for principle. Ron Paul is standing for principles. If you principles don't matter and all that matters is stopping Hillary than you should have voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary. Seriously. That would have given you two chances to try to stop Hillary instead of just one.
 
It's not about supporting Trump, it's about destroying a corrupt system.

Did you vote for Bernie in the democratic primary? Seriously, why just work to destroy the Republican side of the corrupt system?
 
I'm not interested in Ron's advice in how to not throw something away. He threw a lot away that was paid for by others. I remember 2012 when my family spent hundreds of dollars several weeks before the Texas primaries to attend a Ron Paul luncheon, only to have him drop out right before we could even vote for him in his home state. Just like in 2008 he didn't even fight for his home state. He'd show up to take our money and then use it for paying his family members working for him. The whole thing was a scam.

If you want to understand how the Ron Paul movement was (regrettably) a joke, look at how Kasich won his home state but nothing else. And look how Ron Paul cowered and quit before his home state ever voted. It was a joke and we never had any numbers to speak of.
 
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I'm not interested in Ron's advice in how to not throw something away. He threw a lot away that was paid for by others. I remember 2012 when my family spent hundreds of dollars several weeks before the Texas primaries to attend a Ron Paul luncheon, only to have him drop out right before we could even vote for him in his home state. Just like in 2008 he didn't even fight for his home state. He'd show up to take our money and then use it for paying his family members working for him. The whole thing was a scam.

If you want to understand how the Ron Paul movement was (regrettably) a joke, look at how Kasich won his home state but nothing else. And look how Ron Paul cowered and quit before his home state ever voted. It was a joke and we never had any numbers to speak of.

If you are so much smarter than Ron Paul than why are you not running, and who are you voting for? I won't hold my breath for either answer.
 
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I didn't realize the significance of staying in at least until your home state votes until this election cycle, Ron should have done it, he owed at least that much to those Texans that donated to him in both 2008 & 2012.
Your post helps me understand at least in part why the Ron Paul people that were so passionate in 2008 and 2012 dissipated after the RNC, just too much went wrong internally and externally to stick around for many.
 
I'm not interested in Ron's advice in how to not throw something away. He threw a lot away that was paid for by others. I remember 2012 when my family spent hundreds of dollars several weeks before the Texas primaries to attend a Ron Paul luncheon, only to have him drop out right before we could even vote for him in his home state. Just like in 2008 he didn't even fight for his home state. He'd show up to take our money and then use it for paying his family members working for him. The whole thing was a scam.

If you want to understand how the Ron Paul movement was (regrettably) a joke, look at how Kasich won his home state but nothing else. And look how Ron Paul cowered and quit before his home state ever voted. It was a joke and we never had any numbers to speak of.

I understand and I agree that he shouldn't have quit before Texas. However, it's not fair to compare Kasich in Ohio and Paul in Texas. Kasich was governor of Ohio; Paul was just a representative. Everyone knew who Kasich was and what his accomplishments were. Paul was not a household name in Texas at all. Ron Paul was not going to win Texas and he didn't have enough money to advertise there to the extent that he would have had to and honestly, if Austin was any gauge, the grassroots was too lazy to help him. Austin may have had the largest Meetup, but very few, and I mean few, would lift a finger to even hand out literature, much less go door-to-door.
 
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